What suspension parts do I need to replace at 190K..bushings, tierods...
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
87 300E
What suspension parts do I need to replace at 190K..bushings, tierods...
So I have realized that my rear springs are dead and that is why my car sits so low in the rear. SO I have done new Beilsteins and now am waiting on my Eibach pro kit along with a 3 bump rear, 1 bump front. I bought an adjustable rear camber arm for the rear that may not be the beast solution, but I believe it will be better than staying with stock and to me should do exactly what I need:
Adjustable REAR CAMBER ARMS for Mercedes Benz
So now what I need to know is what all else should I buy when I do the springs so that I can get an alignment and stop spending money for a while. I figure all my bushings, ect. need to be replaced, but I was hoping someone could help me come up wit the list of things so I don't forget anything.
Thanks.
Adjustable REAR CAMBER ARMS for Mercedes Benz
So now what I need to know is what all else should I buy when I do the springs so that I can get an alignment and stop spending money for a while. I figure all my bushings, ect. need to be replaced, but I was hoping someone could help me come up wit the list of things so I don't forget anything.
Thanks.
Last edited by abentley79; 08-02-2005 at 10:22 PM.
#2
Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: On a rock
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
92 AMG 190E EVO2DTM, 240T Turbo Benz, 84 AMG 190E, 560SEC-TT, 95 C36 & a BHG 98 C230
Have a qualified MB expert check all the front and rear suspension bushings.
The Camber Thrust arm (or control arm) needs to be checked carefully (the one that runs diagonally). It is usually the biggest problem I encounter when customers complain about handling or ride. also when you lower your car it is usually the first to go out. Since it is an inexpensive part I usually recommend customers replace both sides when we install lowering springs.
Also check you front lower ball joint and tie rod ends.
The Camber Thrust arm (or control arm) needs to be checked carefully (the one that runs diagonally). It is usually the biggest problem I encounter when customers complain about handling or ride. also when you lower your car it is usually the first to go out. Since it is an inexpensive part I usually recommend customers replace both sides when we install lowering springs.
Also check you front lower ball joint and tie rod ends.
#3
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
87 300E
I just got out from under the car and the front has obviously been done fairly receintly. The springs are all weird looking, but they are being replaced (see last pic). The tie rods also have some rust on them that I worry will affect being able to ajust them so I am not sure if they need to be replaced. The rear however is not in good condition so I plan on replacing everything nessisary to bring back to like new. I assume that if the diff mounts need replacing later that shouldn't effect my alignment so I am not going to do those at this moint I guess. But the sub frames are proably important along with all the other links and bushings one the 5 link suspension, I just wish there was a kit so I knew everything to buy. The sway bar in the rear seems like it should also be upgraded...ANY SUGGESTIONS?
I have come up with may parts list for the rear suspension and it looks like I shoule have everything I need for $555 including $180 I spent on the rear ajustable camber arms. This of course does not include the $ for springs & struts. Hopefully replacing the springs and bushings in will be doable.
I have come up with may parts list for the rear suspension and it looks like I shoule have everything I need for $555 including $180 I spent on the rear ajustable camber arms. This of course does not include the $ for springs & struts. Hopefully replacing the springs and bushings in will be doable.
#4
Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: On a rock
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
92 AMG 190E EVO2DTM, 240T Turbo Benz, 84 AMG 190E, 560SEC-TT, 95 C36 & a BHG 98 C230
Your Camber Strut Rod Bushings (aka Thrust arms) are toasted. You can find some on ebay for a good price, but try to only buy Lemforders. Febi's dont last long at all. Looks like your subframe bushings have seen better days too.
#7
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
87 300E
List of items I bought minuse ajustable camber arms
I thought I'd post this list to help others know all the parts needed for the rear:
http://www.autohausaz.com/
1030160021 Valve Cover Gasket $6.37 1 $6.37
1243330327 Ball Joint; Front Lower Left/Right $15.61 2 $31.22
1243508608 Subframe/Differential Mount; Rear Subframe Mount Kit; Front of Rear Subframe $77.50 1 $77.50
1243510242 Subframe/Differential Mount; Rear Left/Right; At Rear of Rear Subframe $24.75 2 $49.50
1293230192 Strut/Shock Dust Boot; Front Left/Right $7.06 2 $14.12
1293230744 Strut Bumper; Front Left/Right $8.69 2 $17.38
2013300251 Wheel Bearing Kit; Front Left/Right $26.87 2 $53.74
2013500549 Wheel Bearing Kit; Rear Left/Right $36.86 2 $73.72
2023520065 Trailing Arm Mount Bushing; Rear Inner Left/Right $9.22 2 $18.44
2103500953 Control Arm; Rear Left/Right Tie Rod $37.05 2 $74.10
2103503306 Control Arm Camber Strut; Front Top of Rear Knuckle Left/Right; Late Style Version for 12mm Bolt $26.17 2 $52.34
2103503806 Control Arm; Rear Bottom of Rear Knuckle Left/Right Support Arm $38.14 2 $76.28
2103504506 Control Arm Camber Strut; Rear Camber Strut Mounting Bolt Kit $6.20 6 $37.20
2103520043 Control Arm Camber Strut; Rear Left/Right Bushing Insert Sleeve $2.53 6 $15.18
2203520227 Control Arm Bushing; Rear Outer Left/Right at Rear Bearing Knuckle $20.31 2 $40.62
2% DISCOUNT ADDITIONAL 2% Discount (Order Over $250) ($12.75) 1 ($12.75)
Parts Total $624.96
Sales Tax (AZ Residents Only) $0.00
Total Before Shipping Charges $624.96
Shipping Charges for UPS Red $83.66
Grand Total $708.62
I also bought Eibach springs from Tire Rack for 266 (that is the cheepset i found and they have cheep shipping)
Already put in struts shocks for a couple hundred. And new bump pads. I am going with a 1 front 3 rear. Also got sway bar bushings.
So this isn't a cheep job, but at least all my front stuff looks ok as that would have doubled the cost. Only thing I feel I am missing is beefing up the sway bars, but that I cannot afford. Wonder if I can strengthen the stock ones somehow...doubt it. Now can I get it all done in one weekend? I let you know.
http://www.autohausaz.com/
1030160021 Valve Cover Gasket $6.37 1 $6.37
1243330327 Ball Joint; Front Lower Left/Right $15.61 2 $31.22
1243508608 Subframe/Differential Mount; Rear Subframe Mount Kit; Front of Rear Subframe $77.50 1 $77.50
1243510242 Subframe/Differential Mount; Rear Left/Right; At Rear of Rear Subframe $24.75 2 $49.50
1293230192 Strut/Shock Dust Boot; Front Left/Right $7.06 2 $14.12
1293230744 Strut Bumper; Front Left/Right $8.69 2 $17.38
2013300251 Wheel Bearing Kit; Front Left/Right $26.87 2 $53.74
2013500549 Wheel Bearing Kit; Rear Left/Right $36.86 2 $73.72
2023520065 Trailing Arm Mount Bushing; Rear Inner Left/Right $9.22 2 $18.44
2103500953 Control Arm; Rear Left/Right Tie Rod $37.05 2 $74.10
2103503306 Control Arm Camber Strut; Front Top of Rear Knuckle Left/Right; Late Style Version for 12mm Bolt $26.17 2 $52.34
2103503806 Control Arm; Rear Bottom of Rear Knuckle Left/Right Support Arm $38.14 2 $76.28
2103504506 Control Arm Camber Strut; Rear Camber Strut Mounting Bolt Kit $6.20 6 $37.20
2103520043 Control Arm Camber Strut; Rear Left/Right Bushing Insert Sleeve $2.53 6 $15.18
2203520227 Control Arm Bushing; Rear Outer Left/Right at Rear Bearing Knuckle $20.31 2 $40.62
2% DISCOUNT ADDITIONAL 2% Discount (Order Over $250) ($12.75) 1 ($12.75)
Parts Total $624.96
Sales Tax (AZ Residents Only) $0.00
Total Before Shipping Charges $624.96
Shipping Charges for UPS Red $83.66
Grand Total $708.62
I also bought Eibach springs from Tire Rack for 266 (that is the cheepset i found and they have cheep shipping)
Already put in struts shocks for a couple hundred. And new bump pads. I am going with a 1 front 3 rear. Also got sway bar bushings.
So this isn't a cheep job, but at least all my front stuff looks ok as that would have doubled the cost. Only thing I feel I am missing is beefing up the sway bars, but that I cannot afford. Wonder if I can strengthen the stock ones somehow...doubt it. Now can I get it all done in one weekend? I let you know.