sklasse

Where can I get these ? so called Limo-bars or 500E

NorCal124

From a Limo or 500E. Check out your local dismantler or if you want them brand new, see a dealership.

Bigpete123

If heard a bit about these, but have questions-

Do they make a noticeable difference? (i.e. do the benefits outweight the hassle and cost)?

Are they a straight-up replacement?

Smokiesman

Pete! I put a set of OEM 500E bars that I got from Rusty and yes they do make a big difference!!!

Smokie

NorCal124

Smokie, you need to lower your car w/ some vogtlands and tell me how they work w/ those kyb shocks/struts.

AS Design

I think you can use the E60 or 500E limited bar also.... I've seen it on this site..even though I can't understand what it says http://www.jauto.co.jp

Smokiesman

Naw!! plenty low for this old hillbillie! Any lower and I will need one of those lift seats to get my *** out of the car!! I like the KYB's but I like a stiff setup for the twisty roads we got here in the mtns. But it's all a matter of what each of us likes . Some likem stiff others likem soft ! Me I like a stiffie !

Smokie

NorCal124

Do you think you can still achieve a lower stance w/ the KYB, vogtland combination or will the KYBs cause the car to retain a normal ride height dispite the lowered spring. I know people run lowering springs w/ stock shocks all the time, so my guess would be that KYBs should work.

YNVDIZW124

have any of you used koni shocks???....i have them on my mustang but it's not the same on a mb....

CaliE320

A member on here used Koni adjustables on his W124. They're alot more $$$ then Bilteins. I haven't seen him on here in awhile he was from the big island I think.

You could use lowering springs with stock shocks but again you could use nitrous on a Yugo. Anything is possible but is it feasable in the long run to save a few bucks? Trust me you're going to spend more money in the long run replacing those stock shocks .

~Cali

Daez_Nutz

The spring determines the ride height, not the shock.

NorCal124

Yes, but I've seen scenarios where the type of shock/spring combination limits the lowering effectiveness of the spring (i.e. a gentleman w/ a W201 used HD bilsteins and vogtlands and it kept the level of his car not too far from factory ride height). His complaint may just be an issue spcefically w/ the W201 and not an issue with the suspension components. On another note, I'm not after KYBs because of the price. I want them because I know they work. Having had them in my Nissan and numerous friends running suspension setups with them, I'm confident in their ability to perform. My only concern is I know vogtlands lower the car relatively low, will I have the same issues that the guy w/ the W201 did?

shadowgriffen

Thanks for the laugh smokie