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Saijin: There are no issues with heat from HID's when used in conjunction with these plastic clear lenses. Please exercise restraint before you post inaccurate statements.
Glass lenses (without removal of the fluting) will distort the HID light output and give you a uncontrolled light pattern, although it is possible to get around this problem, but it is pricy
Full write up on my install here
http://www.2phast.com/500e/exterior.htm
Glass lenses (without removal of the fluting) will distort the HID light output and give you a uncontrolled light pattern, although it is possible to get around this problem, but it is pricy
Full write up on my install here
http://www.2phast.com/500e/exterior.htm
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I was expressing what I knew from the information provided by the manufactuer of the lights. It says right on the product page that these lights SHOULD NOT be used for HID/Xenon conversion. Yes, I assumed the reason for this caveat was the heat produced by the HID/Xenon lights and maybe on that point I was mistaken, but the fact that they shouldnt be used for such is not false information (or why would they make any warning? Will it discolor the lenses and they dont want to be liable?? 
?). Anyway, in terms of the lights themselves, which do you feel will perform better with normal bulbs(PIAA or Silverstar)/xenon bulbs (eurolite brand bulbs) and why? Im not quite clear on which housing will be the best-spent money.
?). Anyway, in terms of the lights themselves, which do you feel will perform better with normal bulbs(PIAA or Silverstar)/xenon bulbs (eurolite brand bulbs) and why? Im not quite clear on which housing will be the best-spent money.
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Originally Posted by Saijin_Naib
I was expressing what I knew from the information provided by the manufactuer of the lights. It says right on the product page that these lights SHOULD NOT be used for HID/Xenon conversion. Yes, I assumed the reason for this caveat was the heat produced by the HID/Xenon lights and maybe on that point I was mistaken, but the fact that they shouldnt be used for such is not false information (or why would they make any warning? Will it discolor the lenses and they dont want to be liable?? ?). Anyway, in terms of the lights themselves, which do you feel will perform better with normal bulbs(PIAA or Silverstar)/xenon bulbs (eurolite brand bulbs) and why? Im not quite clear on which housing will be the best-spent money.
?). Anyway, in terms of the lights themselves, which do you feel will perform better with normal bulbs(PIAA or Silverstar)/xenon bulbs (eurolite brand bulbs) and why? Im not quite clear on which housing will be the best-spent money.Saij,
Sellers on ebay sometimes don't even know what the **** it is that they are saying, or even sometimes SELLING.
HID/XENON produce LESS heat, therefore it would not effect/melt plastic.
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Whoops 
Alright, good to know then! Wow, okay.. So yeah.. anyone have thoughts on the focusing abilities of the japanese housings VS the euro/us housings? How about you 2phast? You have the Symnic chrome housings right? Did you run those with normal bulbs at all? How did they perform?
Alright, good to know then! Wow, okay.. So yeah.. anyone have thoughts on the focusing abilities of the japanese housings VS the euro/us housings? How about you 2phast? You have the Symnic chrome housings right? Did you run those with normal bulbs at all? How did they perform?
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Originally Posted by Saijin_Naib
Wow, good job! Makes it look very neat and clean. Was it difficult to do or what?
Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
Hey, Where did you get those LED Turn Signals and do they have them in red?
) But, they only cost $5 each. Just to let you know, they advertise that they're brighter then the reg lights, but they're NOT. You can still see them during the day, though. But the color is waaay sick at night... I'll put up some pics this evening. It's a realy cool look! What's also cool, too, is no matter what color they are, when theyre not lit theyre clear white.
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Originally Posted by SNSMBZ W124
Thanx! Just to let you know, they advertise that they're brighter then the reg lights, but they're NOT.
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Are the orange turn signals ones brighter than the standard bulbs?
mmm.. sorry.. So they arent brighter... crap :C
mmm.. sorry.. So they arent brighter... crap :C
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Originally Posted by 2PHAST
Saijin: There are no issues with heat from HID's when used in conjunction with these plastic clear lenses. Please exercise restraint before you post inaccurate statements.
Glass lenses (without removal of the fluting) will distort the HID light output and give you a uncontrolled light pattern, although it is possible to get around this problem, but it is pricy
Full write up on my install here
http://www.2phast.com/500e/exterior.htm
Glass lenses (without removal of the fluting) will distort the HID light output and give you a uncontrolled light pattern, although it is possible to get around this problem, but it is pricy
Full write up on my install here
http://www.2phast.com/500e/exterior.htm
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Yes, the HID's produce less heat than standard Halogens. As for these headlights, well, I never ran them with regular halogen bulbs in them, so its hard to say how good the light pattern is. The reflectors and fluted lenses control your light pattern, its hard to say if the Taiwanese manufacturer actually put any thought into light pattern control or not. Of course, I don't think anything can be worse than the OE headlights, but if your focus is just Halogen bulbs, your best choice (although not the cheapest) would be Hella or Bosch euro headlights.
As for selling my headlights...well, thats a possibility, I want to do another setup but with a different headlight design. Of course, I am not very motivated to take them apart and re-paint the red section
This is the site of the Russian guy who did the hid retro-fit into a set of euro headlights, he has some really tastefull mods, so search around on his site. The HID section is the only area in English though.
http://kamran1860.tripod.com/n_xenon_e.htm
As for selling my headlights...well, thats a possibility, I want to do another setup but with a different headlight design. Of course, I am not very motivated to take them apart and re-paint the red section
This is the site of the Russian guy who did the hid retro-fit into a set of euro headlights, he has some really tastefull mods, so search around on his site. The HID section is the only area in English though.
http://kamran1860.tripod.com/n_xenon_e.htm
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Originally Posted by 2PHAST
This is the site of the Russian guy who did the hid retro-fit into a set of euro headlights, he has some really tastefull mods, so search around on his site. The HID section is the only area in English though.
http://kamran1860.tripod.com/n_xenon_e.htm
http://kamran1860.tripod.com/n_xenon_e.htm
That is a sick custom light job! Give the car alot MORE atitude.
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thanks 2phast, and sorry for runnin my mouth :C Im still torn over what to do with the lenses... I might just get the smoked black euros.. If I dont like them I could always sell them or install them on my dads 500e My focus is halogens because Im not confident enough to go messing around with HID/Xenon kits and possibly screw it up and waste a ton of my money. Would I love HID/Xenon? oh god yes... but not now.. Im not experienced enough yet to start anythign like that. Props on the frame, I always liked the look of the chrome frame versus the black plastic. Keep up the good stuff! Whats the word on your exhaust?
My focus is halogens because Im not confident enough to go messing around with HID/Xenon kits and possibly screw it up and waste a ton of my money. Would I love HID/Xenon? oh god yes... but not now.. Im not experienced enough yet to start anythign like that. Props on the frame, I always liked the look of the chrome frame versus the black plastic. Keep up the good stuff! Whats the word on your exhaust?
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Originally Posted by Saijin_Naib
Props on the frame, I always liked the look of the chrome frame versus the black plastic. Keep up the good stuff! Whats the word on your exhaust?
Thanx Alot!!
Well, the new muffler is finaly going to be shipped on monday, after days of being told they were sold out! It was funny... they said, "we have no more in our wherehouse." so I said, "what about the other 35 you advertise about." they said, "let me check." bada bing, they found a bunch! So, next weekend, it will be in! can't wait to hear that sick sound coming out of my car!
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Originally Posted by SNSMBZ W124
If so, then why do people tell me I can't put HID's in my current lenses?
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If you mount just a HID conversion kit into a halogen headlight assembly, you will never have a proper HID light cut off or be able to control the light enough so that you won't be blinding on=coming traffic. The halogen reflectors and halogen fluted lenses are not designed to handle the amount of light put out by HID's. Trust me, I tried this on my 190e and experimented a lot to try and control the light, in the end, I gave up and went back to halogen.
I suggest anyone interested visit hidplanet.com and sign up for their forums, quite a bit of usefull information over there on conversions.
I suggest anyone interested visit hidplanet.com and sign up for their forums, quite a bit of usefull information over there on conversions.
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hate to bust your bubble, but the Remus Exhaust you are putting on your car is not going to give you a sick custom sound on your ride. I just installed this unit on my 300e last week-I am very satisfied, but i just wanted something not very much louder than stock. With this system, you cant even tell its there unless you are outside the car in the rear while it is idling. If you want it louder, you have to remove your resonator-but i fear that may be too loud. Just an fyi-nice lighting upgrades by the way.
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It may not even matter, the car might be dead anyway. I was just talking to my mechanic and it has alot more problems then I thought... I just assumed I had a radiator leak somewhere, but it's more then that. Something that will probably cost me around $2400 to repair. 
After I have already dropped over $5000 in repairs. I'm over repairing!! I just want to customize the damn thing!!!
After I have already dropped over $5000 in repairs. I'm over repairing!! I just want to customize the damn thing!!!
