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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Car will not drive in reverse

Okay - Update on the issue of my "brakes locking up on me" car going into "limp home mode" and the diagnosis of the faulty control mudulator/actuator or whatever he said it was.

Now, the car will not drive in reverse, drives in "drive" but not in reverse, it moves about 6 inches then stops as if I had slammed it into park.

Then, when I go to Neutral right after, the car starts sputtering in reverse.

I rolled out of the garage and drove around the block, car feels like the brakes are being applied when I am driving.

Very strange - any ideas?
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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what all did they do at the shop?
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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They just cleared the error codes and told me if it occurs again, the control module would have to be replaced.

Prior to all this happeneing, since I bought the car in March, there would be a delay for the tranny to click into reverse. i would put the shifter in Reverse and it would take about 3 seconds for the tranny to kick in.


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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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It sounds like the gear selector isn't lined up with the gears. I don't know a damn thing about 124 trans, but if it has a cable between the selector and the trans, it may need to be adjusted.

I would check your ATF level first, and hopefully someone that can be a little more helpful will have answered by then.

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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Strange symptoms. Have you checked your shifter linkage bushings? You can try a fluid change and filter but sounds like you might be in for a rebuild. If it's the reverse clutches or reverse piston seals the transmission has to come out - 6 or 7 hours to R and R - and then you might as well rebuild the whole thing.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 01:28 AM
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mileage and prior history?

What are the miles on the car? And what is the general history of the car? Hot climate/cold climate? My car w/ 80,000 miles has always been slow to engage in any gear, but nothing more than a slight delay.
So tell us something more.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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I used to have a 300CE, and something similar happened. At first it was just not very keen to reverse. Then after a few weeks, it wouldn't reverse until I revved the engine, and then it would spin the wheels and everyone would stare at me. Eventually, it wouldn't reverse at all - I really had to plan ahead when I was parking...

There's a garage near my house that only deals with W124 coupes, conveniently. They said that the gearbox had to be rebuilt. They used caniballised parts, I think, and it cost about US$ 600.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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I used to have a 300CE, and something similar happened. At first it was just not very keen to reverse. Then after a few weeks, it wouldn't reverse until I revved the engine, and then it would spin the wheels and everyone would stare at me. Eventually, it wouldn't reverse at all - I really had to plan ahead when I was parking...

There's a garage near my house that only deals with W124 coupes, conveniently. They said that the gearbox had to be rebuilt. They used caniballised parts, I think, and it cost about US$ 600.

you went from a 300ce to a 600sec?

you're the man!

sorry

but back on topic...my TE has always had a delay when shifting from P to D or P to R, but isnt that normal??
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kwb210
What are the miles on the car? And what is the general history of the car? Hot climate/cold climate? My car w/ 80,000 miles has always been slow to engage in any gear, but nothing more than a slight delay.
So tell us something more.
1992 400E. 102,000 miles. Transmission service done at 98,000. Filter, fluid. Live in San Antonio, Texas - has been 100+ degrees for months.

two weeks ago the car had to be towed because it would not go anywhere, forward, reverse, etc... the car actually skidded to a stop on the road. Mechanic said it was not the tranny nor the abs - he said the code came up with some elctronic module was bad.
SAID THE CAR WAS IN "LIMP HOME MODE"

he also said this...."THE LOWER AND UPPER CHAMBERS ARE NOT CLIBRATED???" What the hell does that mean?
The shop is closed this week (the only week it is closed during the year for vacation) so i am stuck waiting on them to return.
One of the mechanics wants my car, always has, and says he will pay me $8,500.00 as is. Tight spot here - I like the car, but ......
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Koolwipski
1992 400E. 102,000 miles. Transmission service done at 98,000. Filter, fluid. Live in San Antonio, Texas - has been 100+ degrees for months.

two weeks ago the car had to be towed because it would not go anywhere, forward, reverse, etc... the car actually skidded to a stop on the road. Mechanic said it was not the tranny nor the abs - he said the code came up with some elctronic module was bad.
SAID THE CAR WAS IN "LIMP HOME MODE"

he also said this...."THE LOWER AND UPPER CHAMBERS ARE NOT CLIBRATED???" What the hell does that mean?
The shop is closed this week (the only week it is closed during the year for vacation) so i am stuck waiting on them to return.
One of the mechanics wants my car, always has, and says he will pay me $8,500.00 as is. Tight spot here - I like the car, but ......
how is the car Electronic wise?

Have you ever replaced the alternator? Battery? have you checked all of your fuses? Plugs? wires? Disty? Vac hoses? I mean if its not your tranny nor the abs then something electical must be at fault here.

...."THE LOWER AND UPPER CHAMBERS ARE NOT CLIBRATED???" WTF?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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It sounds like your reverse band is worn out. You will end up in forward & reverse at the same time. Rebuild it before you contaminate the valve body. A proper rebuild costs $1200- $1800.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
you went from a 300ce to a 600sec?

you're the man!

sorry

but back on topic...my TE has always had a delay when shifting from P to D or P to R, but isnt that normal??
Thanks, shadowgriffen. I guess I was just lucky - I found a very good deal. I'm sending the 300 to my brother-in-law in Australia, and got the 600 to replace it. A lot of local people here don't like used cars, so it's easy for expatriates to pick up a bargain.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Update - Taking the car to the shop tomorrow morning. It drives forward, and in reverse only for a few feet, with an aaweful grinding noise (I am assuming the tranny is F*****. On top of that....looks like the power steering is leaking (reservoir was bone dry and the fluid is dripping out from around the drip cover)
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