E-Class (W124) 1984-1995: E 260, E 300, E 320, E 420, E 500 (Includes CE, T, TD models)

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Old 01-05-2007, 12:26 PM
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gegeege I do want some monoknocks for the summer when I get new tires...
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
You have no clue how bad I'm dying to get rid of my black projectors for a clean set of smoked euros.

Uhh...you have Halogen reflectors, not projectors...or am I missing a joke?
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They are teh "projector stylez"
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Originally Posted by ZorroAMG
Uhh...you have Halogen reflectors, not projectors...or am I missing a joke?
I guess realistically you're right, technically they are called projectors.
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No, projectors are projectors, halogen reflectors are halogen reflectors. Just cause someone on EBay sells a mouse as a zebra, does not make it a zebra, technically or realistically

Yours / reflectors


Projectors


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Old 01-05-2007, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ZorroAMG
No, projectors are projectors, halogen reflectors are halogen reflectors. Just cause someone on EBay sells a mouse as a zebra, does not make it a zebra, technically or realistically

Yours / reflectors


Projectors


Hope that helps
thanks Z, but I have a pretty good understanding of what the difference is.

I said you're REALISTICALLY right, because I KNOW these are not projectors as I have stated in the past.
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They technically do project.

The bulb withing the "reflector" is encased in a convex lens. The light goes through this lens "projecting" a stronger, consentrated light beam that forms a huge circle infront of my car.

it makes one big "O" in the road, with the O sorrounded by a half moons on both sides. Something like this (O)

though it does not blind drivers infront of me.

I can see everything, stop signs are highlighted as if I had highbeams on, highway signs are lit up like x-mas trees and pedestrians can be seen enough so that half their body from the torso down can be seen quiet intensly. but the light manages to somehow find itself across the road in a twin arch fashion a'la Mickie D's.



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sorry crappy pic but you get the point

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they really do have amazing performance, but the look is starting to wear out on me...
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I think the burgundy CE is a great color. No shame! Purple....oh man, my girlfriend in HS used to tease me that my '68 was purple. I had to remind her that it was dunkelrot or dark red. Had to let her go... the GF that is, you just don't say things like that about a man's baby

S.N. If you get euros, smoked tails, clear corners and a new bumper, that car would look very very clean!
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Originally Posted by myfirstbenz
I think the burgundy CE is a great color. No shame! Purple....oh man, my girlfriend in HS used to tease me that my '68 was purple. I had to remind her that it was dunkelrot or dark red. Had to let her go... the GF that is, you just don't say things like that about a man's baby

S.N. If you get euros, smoked tails, clear corners and a new bumper, that car would look very very clean!
heck, a friend of mine's dad has a purple ford probe GT which he loves to death and he's 55 years young

...oh I still miss that good ol' KLDE.
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Now probes were purple, my cousins had a purple windstar... that color is totally
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
They technically do project.

The bulb withing the "reflector" is encased in a convex lens. The light goes through this lens "projecting" a stronger, consentrated light beam that forms a huge circle infront of my car.

it makes one big "O" in the road, with the O sorrounded by a half moons on both sides. Something like this (O)

though it does not blind drivers infront of me.

I can see everything, stop signs are highlighted as if I had highbeams on, highway signs are lit up like x-mas trees and pedestrians can be seen enough so that half their body from the torso down can be seen quiet intensly. but the light manages to somehow find itself across the road in a twin arch fashion a'la Mickie D's.



sorry crappy pic but you get the point

they really do have amazing performance, but the look is starting to wear out on me...
If "projecting" light makes them projectors and not reflectors, then there are no such things as reflectors.

Basically, here's the difference between a reflector and a projector headlight:

-Reflectors use, well, reflectors to bounce the light in the right direction. Yes, they direct the beam in a specific pattern.

-Projectors use a lens to focus the beam in a specific pattern.

So, in a nutshell, a reflector sits behind the bulb and a projector sits in front of the bulb.

So Henry, I understand your confusion, but your headlights are reflectors - as are euro headlights.

And BTW, although I like your current set-up, I think it would look better/perform better with euros.

It seems like your light pattern is this: (O) (O)

The euros have this light pattern: _______/

(you have to imagine that the horizontal line would pass through the center of the (O) in the previous example, and that the light is intense below the line and dim/dark above the line)
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Originally Posted by myfirstbenz
Now probes were purple, my cousins had a purple windstar... that color is totally
Purple IS ghey

Burgundy is not purple

Dark red is not purple

(Forrest Gump voice) That's all i have to say about that...
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Follow my train-o-thought here... these folks must be color blind... and speaking of color blind has anyone here seen Little Miss Sunshine? Friggin hilarious. Oh yeah, the young brother is color blind... that finishes our journey.
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haha thanks for the kind words I think Im going to go with the euros and just do HID bulbs. My friend has a mazda 3 and just did HID bulbs, no projector retro, and the beam pattern is very level and quite nice. I dont think its blinding at all. The new bumper will come with the body kit if I ever get around to doing that :C And the monoknocks to finish the new look
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HID's with euros is fine, I had them until one of the bulbs died....Will again soon. I don't know what people are talking about when they say they are bad. There is very very little difference from halogen to HID beam pattern but the quality of the light is worth it. Go with 6000k!
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
There's a Tri-State meet coming up? I honestly don't check the events anymore since you left - meets just haven't been the same. The ones we plan were always the best hands down.

We do however have a LOT to catch up on. Still got the same number? I was in SD fo the past two days. We should of had a mini meet! I have a new benzo same W124. The white one got totalled. I was rear ended.

as for Sean, he's still the same ol sean. I didn't even see that CLK-DTM model at his house! ******* probably ebay'd it. haha
seriously, here's the details, and you're already signed up, so you're going.

Mercedes-Benz Tri-State Meet in Irvine, CA on January 20th, 2007.
All W124s: Click on the link above to sign up for attendance.

Still got the same number. Sad to hear about your white W124... totally sucks ! What happened to Sean's 190 ??


Hope to see you there !

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I was thinking maybe 8000k or 10000k for the main beams and 3500k for the inboard fogs! Amber HID fogs. w00t w00t
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Originally Posted by Saijin_Naib
I was thinking maybe 8000k or 10000k for the main beams and 3500k for the inboard fogs! Amber HID fogs. w00t w00t
Eh, that will be a waste, those colors dont illuminate as well. 5000-6000k are closer to natural sunlight in the Kelvin spectrum, my 6000k's were amazing since they put out better light than the halogens w/out glare, and reflective surfaces like signs, and road stripe paint just illuminated like neon colors under a black light. 8000 and 10000 is for jacked up acuras. Trust me here.
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Tru Well, I guess your right, plasma purple is kinda lame for a benz... 6000k is the neutral HID white right? I am doing the 3500k amber for the fogs though lol. That I am set on
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Originally Posted by mgw_300e
If "projecting" light makes them projectors and not reflectors, then there are no such things as reflectors.

Basically, here's the difference between a reflector and a projector headlight:

-Reflectors use, well, reflectors to bounce the light in the right direction. Yes, they direct the beam in a specific pattern.

-Projectors use a lens to focus the beam in a specific pattern.

So, in a nutshell, a reflector sits behind the bulb and a projector sits in front of the bulb.

So Henry, I understand your confusion, but your headlights are reflectors - as are euro headlights.

And BTW, although I like your current set-up, I think it would look better/perform better with euros.

It seems like your light pattern is this: (O) (O)

The euros have this light pattern: _______/

(you have to imagine that the horizontal line would pass through the center of the (O) in the previous example, and that the light is intense below the line and dim/dark above the line)
Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
thanks Z, but I have a pretty good understanding of what the difference is.

I said you're REALISTICALLY right, because I KNOW these are not projectors as I have stated in the past.
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
They technically do project.

The bulb withing the "reflector" is encased in a convex lens. The light goes through this lens "projecting" a stronger, consentrated light beam that forms a huge circle infront of my car.
Seemed to me like you were still a little confused.






Isn't there an OVP somewhere in need of changing?
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Originally Posted by mgw_300e
Seemed to me like you were still a little confused.






Isn't there an OVP somewhere in need of changing?
actually there is, you heard Norcal call it.


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