Remembering the Hammer
08-08-2006, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by yhliem
The Sultan of Brunei is a HUGE MB fan. Stuttgart will (and does) custom make pretty much anything he wants. You're not likely to find him in any of the forums. And even if he is on the forums, it's highly unlikely that he'd make it known who he is. 
08-08-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by yhliem
Very few people. And people who can afford those kinds of cars might not necessarily want others to know about it or might not be interested in mixing it up with the rest of us.
think about it: one of the first McLaren SLRs in western Canada was bought by a memeber of the Washington family - the family that owns Seaspan, the trans-oceanic shipping company. He paid almost 3/4 Mil for the car. Do you REALLY think he'd have the time to chat it up with us here on MBWorld?
The Sultan of Brunei is a HUGE MB fan. Stuttgart will (and does) custom make pretty much anything he wants. You're not likely to find him in any of the forums. And even if he is on the forums, it's highly unlikely that he'd make it known who he is.
think about it: one of the first McLaren SLRs in western Canada was bought by a memeber of the Washington family - the family that owns Seaspan, the trans-oceanic shipping company. He paid almost 3/4 Mil for the car. Do you REALLY think he'd have the time to chat it up with us here on MBWorld?
The Sultan of Brunei is a HUGE MB fan. Stuttgart will (and does) custom make pretty much anything he wants. You're not likely to find him in any of the forums. And even if he is on the forums, it's highly unlikely that he'd make it known who he is.
Still, it would be pretty cool if one of them did.
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, I hate you lol
08-08-2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
what!? WHY! lol
lets take this on the chrisdpham topic fooL!
lets take this on the chrisdpham topic fooL!
you know the whole "raise your
hand" thang lol I will get myself a pair you'll see lol
08-08-2006, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Makahveli
So all I need to do is convert an engine over from a 560SEC?
The car that is widely recognized as the true AMG Hammer (the dispute about the C124 and W126 Hammer notwithstanding) is the W124 sedan. To covert the W124 into a Hammer, AMG took the M117 and bored it out to 6.0L. They also added twincam heads. The stock M117 has only one cam per cylinder bank.
In order to fit the, now considerably wider, engine into the engine bay of the W124 (remember it was only ever designed to house an in-line 6) the firewall has to be modified. This could require the battery to be relocated to the trunk.
Furthermore, AMG grafted in the entire drivetrain from the S-Class.
Then you have to consider the suspension, computer, wiring harness, etc.
When Mercedes & Porsche built the 500E, they used over 4000 parts that were not used in the production of the "regular" W124. Obviously AMG would not have been as thorough, but that tells you a little about how much work goes into converting the W124.
Not trying to burst your bubble, just want you to know what you could be in for.
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08-08-2006, 01:51 PM
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You my friend will get one someday ... when you become lucky. LOL
No, but really - Just constant searching on Ebay.com/co.uk/de, Craigslist and other listing/auction sites and you'll find them. Although ... the ones I've seen lately have been pretty pricey.
No, but really - Just constant searching on Ebay.com/co.uk/de, Craigslist and other listing/auction sites and you'll find them. Although ... the ones I've seen lately have been pretty pricey.
08-08-2006, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yhliem
Erm..it takes a little more than just swapping an M117 into a W124.
The car that is widely recognized as the true AMG Hammer (the dispute about the C124 and W126 Hammer notwithstanding) is the W124 sedan. To covert the W124 into a Hammer, AMG took the M117 and bored it out to 6.0L. They also added twincam heads. The stock M117 has only one cam per cylinder bank.
In order to fit the, now considerably wider, engine into the engine bay of the W124 (remember it was only ever designed to house an in-line 6) the firewall has to be modified. This could require the battery to be relocated to the trunk.
Furthermore, AMG grafted in the entire drivetrain from the S-Class.
Then you have to consider the suspension, computer, wiring harness, etc.
When Mercedes & Porsche built the 500E, they used over 4000 parts that were not used in the production of the "regular" W124. Obviously AMG would not have been as thorough, but that tells you a little about how much work goes into converitng the W124.
The car that is widely recognized as the true AMG Hammer (the dispute about the C124 and W126 Hammer notwithstanding) is the W124 sedan. To covert the W124 into a Hammer, AMG took the M117 and bored it out to 6.0L. They also added twincam heads. The stock M117 has only one cam per cylinder bank.
In order to fit the, now considerably wider, engine into the engine bay of the W124 (remember it was only ever designed to house an in-line 6) the firewall has to be modified. This could require the battery to be relocated to the trunk.
Furthermore, AMG grafted in the entire drivetrain from the S-Class.
Then you have to consider the suspension, computer, wiring harness, etc.
When Mercedes & Porsche built the 500E, they used over 4000 parts that were not used in the production of the "regular" W124. Obviously AMG would not have been as thorough, but that tells you a little about how much work goes into converitng the W124.
You have a impressive list of cars - do you have any pictures you can share for the all of us to see?
08-08-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
You are my new favorite forum member.
You have a impressive list of cars - do you have any pictures you can share for the all of us to see?
You have a impressive list of cars - do you have any pictures you can share for the all of us to see?
Yes please, let us indulge.
08-08-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2PHAST
Miami Vice had many different MB in the episodes, you can never tell what what is real and what is not, many Hammer look alikes.
AMG was very much an a la carte operation in the 1980's - people could mix and match whatever they wanted. Hundreds, probably thousands, of MB owners bought the cosmetics, but only a very very small percentage of them bought the performance goodies too ($$$$$$$$).
Of the cars that were shown on Miami Vice, most were probably just cosmetics. Besides, I don't think the producers would have wanted to spend the money actually buying/rent the real cars to drive around on set when they could get look-alikes for far less.
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08-08-2006, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by yhliem
Agreed.
AMG was very much an a la carte operation in the 1980's - people could mix and match whatever they wanted. Hundreds, probably thousands, of MB owners bought the cosmetics, but only a very very small percentage of them bought the performance goodies too ($$$$$$$$).
Of the cars that were shown on Miami Vice, most were probably just cosmetics. Besides, I don't think the producers would have wanted to spend the money actually buying/rent the real cars to drive around on set when they could get look-alikes for far less.
AMG was very much an a la carte operation in the 1980's - people could mix and match whatever they wanted. Hundreds, probably thousands, of MB owners bought the cosmetics, but only a very very small percentage of them bought the performance goodies too ($$$$$$$$).
Of the cars that were shown on Miami Vice, most were probably just cosmetics. Besides, I don't think the producers would have wanted to spend the money actually buying/rent the real cars to drive around on set when they could get look-alikes for far less.
ummm...so can we see the rides or are they forbiden?
08-08-2006, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
You are my new favorite forum member.
You have a impressive list of cars - do you have any pictures you can share for the all of us to see?
You have a impressive list of cars - do you have any pictures you can share for the all of us to see?
Unfortunately the forum where I had a bunch of pics hosted got hacked and the pics are no more.
I have copies on my HD, but haven't had time to upload them to photobucket yet. I'll let you guys know when I do.
I'm currently trying to get the Mods to change my signin. I'm "yvrbenz" in most of the other MB Forums.
08-08-2006, 02:13 PM
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What other MBforums do you post on? I could of used your Hammer knowledge a lot time ago!
May I ask - Do you have any sources or informational websites in regards to the Hammer? I only know of very few.
May I ask - Do you have any sources or informational websites in regards to the Hammer? I only know of very few.
08-08-2006, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by yhliem
sorry...was trying to get caught up in the thread lol
sorry I'm a total
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08-08-2006, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
What other MBforums do you post on? I could of used your Hammer knowledge a lot time ago!
May I ask - Do you have any sources or informational websites in regards to the Hammer? I only know of very few.
May I ask - Do you have any sources or informational websites in regards to the Hammer? I only know of very few.
www.190revolution.net
www.mercedes190.co.uk
www.500ecstasy.com
www.mbcanada.com
www.mbca.org
www.mercedesshop.com
www.bnzsport.com
I don't know of any Hammer specific sites. Mind you, I haven't ever really gone looking for them.
08-08-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
oh no sweat, hey welcome to the forums by the way.
sorry I'm a total head
sorry I'm a total
head I've actually been registered on here for years. Just never really posted much.
08-08-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
Sooo then where did you obtain all your Hammer knowledge? LOL
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
j/k in all honesty the next 190E i get is probably going to be an EvoI PowerPack.
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