E-Class (W124) 1984-1995: E 260, E 300, E 320, E 420, E 500 (Includes CE, T, TD models)

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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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But finally, which is the horsepower and torque of the car ??
I just dont have any idea of the results it gave, and I am very interested in ur results.

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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But finally, which is the horsepower and torque of the car ??
I just dont have any idea of the results it gave, and I am very interested in ur results.

Bye
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SCAN THE CHART, But the figures are:

Hp: 287 at the wheels.
Torque: 295 at the wheels.

Now some serious tounning will be required at the dyno to get this numbers up to 315 levels, since the fuel / air ratio is crazy something like 20 to 1, I mean off the charts, so that is defently holding about 25 HP and 30 pounds of torque.

My mechanic wont be able to dyno tune the car until early january!
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Thanks for the info ¡¡ I think u will have no problems to raise ur horsepower to near 340 horsepower. Maybe you need to vary boost and readjust electronics. Its Hard work but It seems it can give good results.

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Damn, archery. What you think so far? worth your while?!?
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by archeryblackdog
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SCAN THE CHART, But the figures are:

Hp: 287 at the wheels.
Torque: 295 at the wheels.

Now some serious tounning will be required at the dyno to get this numbers up to 315 levels, since the fuel / air ratio is crazy something like 20 to 1, I mean off the charts, so that is defently holding about 25 HP and 30 pounds of torque.

My mechanic wont be able to dyno tune the car until early january!
Nice numbers!
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Its early january, how is the tuning going!???!?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Hey, have you had a chance to scan the dyno charts yet?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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$142 per horse is ****ing crazy....thats so gansta
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Originally Posted by archeryblackdog
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SCAN THE CHART, But the figures are:

Hp: 287 at the wheels.
Torque: 295 at the wheels.

Now some serious tounning will be required at the dyno to get this numbers up to 315 levels, since the fuel / air ratio is crazy something like 20 to 1, I mean off the charts, so that is defently holding about 25 HP and 30 pounds of torque.

My mechanic wont be able to dyno tune the car until early january!
HP figures aren't too shabby !!!
Add about 14% for drive train losses and you're running around 330HP and 340LBFT torque at the flywheel.


I'd be very concerned at the 20:1 AFR which is extremely lean and can cause engine damage under boost. The optimum or stoichiometric ratio for a complete burn is 14.7:1.
What are you using for your fuel enrichment circuit ?
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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The car is Running great I did had a bit of an oil leak out of one of the turbos, but it was only a lose conector, once fixed, no more problems.

I have not been able to figure the 20 to 1 fuel ratio yet, but is running way to reach not lean.

My tunner is now moving his shop and I have not found and other tunner to do it.

I personly been traveling too much so time has been little.

I need to finish my toy because is defently a pleasure to drive it arround!!
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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I have not been able to figure the 20 to 1 fuel ratio yet, but is running way to reach not lean.
If you are at 20:1 you are way too lean !!!!!
14.7:1 is optimum, number below is rich, number above is lean.
20:1 means 20 parts air to one part fuel.
You're in danger of burnng your pistons under full boost.
What did you use for your fuel enrichment?
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If you are at 20:1 you are way too lean !!!!!
14.7:1 is optimum, number below is rich, number above is lean.
20:1 means 20 parts air to one part fuel.
You're in danger of burnng your pistons under full boost.
What did you use for your fuel enrichment?
Actually 14.7:1 is still considered lean too. Remember you are under a load and need to be running on the rich side during a load esp with a turbo and no intercooler. Under no load conditions it can go lean without a problem unless it starts to missfire.

It maybe worth the investment to get a extra O2 sensor and gauge to see where you are at all conditions. Surely it will help with tuning.

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Actually 14.7:1 is still considered lean too. Remember you are under a load and need to be running on the rich side during a load esp with a turbo and no intercooler. Under no load conditions it can go lean without a problem unless it starts to missfire.

It maybe worth the investment to get a extra O2 sensor and gauge to see where you are at all conditions. Surely it will help with tuning.

The optimum air/fuel ratio varies from one engine to another. This ratio is often stated in terms of its stoichiometric value, the ideal ratio of air and fuel required to provide the complete burn. For unleaded fuels, the stoichiometric ratio is 14.7:1.

Air/fuel ratios do vary with load conditions (those that are ideal for fuel economy are not ideal for maximum performance). A more realistic air/fuel ratio for maximum horsepower on gasoline will probably be a richer 12.5:1 to 13.5:1.

A do it yourself turbo install without the proper enrichment under boost equates to damaging an engine with high temperatures.
The extra O2 sensor makes sense. Best to set the enrichment curve under load on a dyno. Result will be maximizing power output and increasing engine life.
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