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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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The best radar is definitely this one...wait no those are pancakes
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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LMAO marco, the Spam pic.

"Mysterious green substance"
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PDJ89C
LMAO marco, the Spam pic.

"Mysterious green substance"
besides.....the name....Valentine?....man that's ghey

but, if you need a "unbiased opinion" about that mysterious green substance, perhaps RaDaRqUeen, ur, -kIng, can ask the gaysfromLidar to give a report on how early the V1 can tell you if the Green Substance is on the left side, right side, or coming up your behind .....
sorry,
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by marco402
besides.....the name....Valentine?....man that's ghey

but, if you need a "unbiased opinion" about that mysterious green substance, perhaps RaDaRqUeen, ur, -kIng, can ask the gaysfromLidar to give a report on how early the V1 can tell you if the Green Substance is on the left side, right side, or coming up your behind .....
sorry,
You probably eat spam yourself because you still use a radar detector that is 7 years old. Go listen to some 8 tracks and play with your Commodore 64.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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I heard Beltronics are going fine.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
You probably eat spam yourself because you still use a radar detector that is 7 years old. Go listen to some 8 tracks and play with your Commodore 64.
Dude, why are you here? No one is interested in hearing your opinion. You obviously don't drive a Mercedes as you don't list it in your profile. Just go away and leave this forum alone.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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I have owned many cars and motorcycles and my radar detectors have saved me many times! Like most stated here Instant on and laser got you if you are the only one on the road. If you do however have a car ahead of you way up on the highway you will hear him get the hit giving you time to slow down. The best advantage is for small towns who leave the radar on in the police cars constantly and 25mph zones. In Pensylvania only P.A state police have radar ALL other forms of police use vascar which is usually if not always 2 thin white lines on the road surface approx 30 feet apart. (not to be confused with thicker commercial driveway markings.) The new more expensive radar detectors will allow you to mark or set this point once learned (by you) to alert you the next time because they have GPS. I have always liked passport/escort and I now have a solo battery powered.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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The only good ones are Escorts and Valentines. I bought both and used them for 400 miles simultaneously - the V1 was better with the arrow indicator, worse for the Ka band, and never shut the hell up on false alarms. I returned the V1 and kept the Escort - that was about five years ago. Still wish Escort had an arrow indicator.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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As a state trooper I can tell you that a radar detector will not do you any good if you are driving like an idiot and passing everybody left and right. The modern "instant-on/off" radars are so much faster then the radar detectors. I will have your speed on the display before or at the same time your detector goes off. In addition, these day 90% of the time I use a laser for speed enforsement, which is totally lethal for speeders. Laser detector is a complete waste of money because the laser beam spreads about 3' for every 1000' of distance, compairing to the Dopler beam spread of about 30' for every 1000'. The best laser/radar detector is a cheap CB radio. Turn that sucker on and listen to the truck drivers, they will tell you where we are.
Arnie,

I do not agree with everything you said but agree you are a better than usual human trooper. You are right with the radio. Other helpful hints include:

1) On a busy 3 lane highway always drive on the outermost lane so even brave troopers will think twice before jumping out and being run over by good Samaritans in the other 2 lanes. Being clocked does not necessarily mean being booked. You have to be stopped by a live trooper first.

2) Keep your head lights on even when you do not have daytime running lights to confuse your hunter.

3) Buy a car with dull colors. Red attracts bulls.

4) Use other speeders to shield your car from radar beams. This is useful when you are approaching the top of a hill.

5) Keep your radar on all the time. Confuse the radar detector detector trappers.

6) Post your knowledge of radar trap locations on the radar detector maker sponsored websites. Bel Electronics of Canada has one.

7) I heard that Microsoft or one of its subsidiaries is planning to do a GPS system to locate radar traps. I will be the first to buy.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Arnie,

I do not agree with everything you said but agree you are a better than usual human trooper. You are right with the radio. Other helpful hints include:.......

Sweet, those are some nice tips Thanks. hehe.

BTW. Update on the ESD-7000 I got. I'm seriously going to return that thing. EVERY cop I pass by, it doesn't go off at ALL. Only times it goes off, theres not a cop in sight. WTF?
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG

It is not a false alert if your V1 alerts you to X and K band door openers because they all operate on the same frequency as police radar. If your Bel, Escort, etc. doesn't alert to those, it is because it lacks sensitivity to actual police radar frequencies, it doesn't mean that it has better filtering.[/URL].

If you want the most unbiased information available, you have to l[/URL]
So much so that in the November 2004 issue of Autoweek magazine's review, they called the Valentine 1 the "Chicken Little of radar detectors".
http://www.radarbusters.com
if you want to only quote out of context....here's one for you....
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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So much so that in the November 2004 issue of Autoweek magazine's review, they called the Valentine 1 the "Chicken Little of radar detectors".
http://www.radarbusters.com
if you want to only quote out of context....here's one for you....
I am glad you like that quote posted on radarbusters.com but Radar Roy Reyer doesn't sell the V1 so why would he try to promote it or praise it?

Here is a quote from the actual Autoweek magazine people who tested the V1, "Most of us ventured into this review of the latest radar detectors as near novices; only a few of our dozen test drivers had experience with radar detectors that they would call extensive." Boy, that really sounds like a panel of experts for a radar detector test.

Here is another quote from that test, "The Valentine One, with its patented arrow system that shows from where the radar signal comes and how strong it is, was mentioned by several editors as a favorite."


I like when you quote Radarbusters.com because we all know how trustworthy Radar Roy Reyer is. Here is a little background information on him.

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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It is AMAZING that you just dont get the point of the respondants here.....
you pretty thick aren't you....

Nobody, not one......ZERO,,,,,,,,,ever disputed or in anyway way argues with the following statements......

1> the Valentine-1 detector has been ONE of the top 3 detectors for sale.for over 10years !

2> the tests by numerous groups, (magizines, organizations, independant labs) always come up with the same results....Valentine-1/Passport/that new BEL unit, ugh...sti or something)......overall ratings vary only slightly...

3>the Valentine-1 unit has a rear antenna (so does the NEW BEL) and has directional arrows.

so whats your frigging point?

don't insult everyone here with that "unbiased" BS.....your GUYSOFLIDAR have thier agenda too, even if you dont want to agree...

you won't admit that the VALENTINE-1 has a "false alarm issue", just due to the sensitivity....jeez, with 2 antennas, I'd be sensitive also....the term FALSE ALARM means that the detector alerted you to a damm garage door....or anything that is NOT a cop.....so your sensitive detector goes of and point to every Walgreens/HomeDepot/Bank.....so what....it also DOES point to RADAR....YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH IS WHICH....

any police unit more than 3/4 mile away is really NOT a threat.....so I dont care to even know about one 5 miles away......that's what the selective sensitivity switch is for..( I use NO-X mode, because in TX---even towns with only one flashing yellow light use K or Ka, X just isn't used anymore, just like us with detectors, the law enforcement have all gone a bit more modern....) these were the bands that Escort came out ONE point ahead....you know, one point really isn't a big deal.....not when the "other guys are sooooo far below these 3 detectors


Every reviwer agrees that the single knob interface of the VALENTINE-1 when compared to the BEL or PASSPORT, is less user-friendly....and having had both, I agree with that statement....I gave my brother the VAL-1 for a b'day present......he turns off the "all bogey" when he's on the HIGHWAY, and leaves it at home if he isn't on a roadtrip....

I am impressed with your passion for a product that you defend so strongly, but am annoyed with your immature reasoning, and selective arguements...and by the way, like thousands of people, when SAT TV came out, and you needed the SMART CARD....it seems lots of people were selling hacked cards.....but that does not remove the education and training in Radar that he got while he was a cop.....so he's a crook....I'm not buying from him, but a test is a test.....I'm just interested if the test has a valid application....If your city has any 10 mile straight/clear roads then maybe that degree of sensitivity is important, but I'll trade a bit of that for smarter filtering and nicer ergonomics.......but thats only my choice.....

do us all a favor, try NOT to post here anymore, you really have worn out your welcome and further discussion will probably influence others to buy anything BUT a VALENTINE, you come across like a Used-car/TimeShares/insurance salesman.....you know, the kind that advertises on cable TV at 3am..."my product is the ONLY one that works,and gets your teeth WHITER THAN WHITE

have a nice day................and stuff your Valentine up your
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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blah blah blah Valentine One blah blah blah blah it's the best blahblahblah
GO AWAY SILLY MAN! NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR FROM YOU, YOU PEDANTIC LITTLE TWIT. WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO YOUR RADAR FORUM ( ) AND LEAVE THE BIG KIDS ALONE.

MAYBE YOU COULD SPEARHEAD AN EVEN MORE USELESS FORUM THAN ONE ABOUT RADAR DETECTORS LIKE, OH I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A FORUM FOR PENCIL SHARPENERS OR TOILET PAPER.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Matt......did you know that the 2-ply clogs my electric sharpener twice as fast as the 1-ply brand.......

....but if you sharpen your toilet paper....can you detect HEMORRHOIDS farther away, or is that only with a "rear" antenna?

jeez, rAdArQuEeN.....is it time for a 'ban'? or what....

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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if you need proof, this is the MOST, UNBIASED report....
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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3>the Valentine-1 unit has a rear antenna (so does the NEW BEL) and has directional arrows.

so whats your frigging point?
My point is that you blab but still don't know much about radar detectors or their features.

The new Bel does not have a rear antenna. Valentine Research has the patent on arrows and a rear-facing antenna in a single radar detector.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Ban....ban.....ban.....

Originally Posted by RaDaRkInG
My point is that you blab but still don't know much about radar detectors or their features.

The new Bel does not have a rear antenna. Valentine Research has the patent on arrows and a rear-facing antenna in a single radar detector.
hey moron , go away........( yes the arrow is V1 only, but the rear ant. laser diode isn't.........but. you are a little boy....and your Mommy is calling.......GO AWAY.




BAN THIS GUY.......
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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hey moron , go away........( yes the arrow is V1 only, but the rear ant. laser diode isn't.........but. you are a little boy....and your Mommy is calling.......GO AWAY.




BAN THIS GUY.......
Moron is what I call the guy who doesn't know the difference between radar and laser. There is a rear laser sensor on other detectors but there is no rear radar antenna on any other detector. Who the hell are you to say I need to be banned when you have only been a member since November. By the way, your mother is calling me to your bed so I will leave you alone on your forum.
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Moron is what I call the guy who doesn't know the difference between radar and laser. There is a rear laser sensor on other detectors but there is no rear radar antenna on any other detector. Who the hell are you to say I need to be banned when you have only been a member since November. By the way, your mother is calling me to your bed so I will leave you alone on your forum.
I have to do this. It is my moral obligation to my fellow members...and noobs( I am still one somehow )
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RaDaRqUeEn.......sorry, your personal filth has overstepped the line...but, at least my 3 year old has more class then you.....guess a loser in a benz ( maybe you only pretend to be a drive one,) still equals loser... and a BAN for your SPAM ADVERTISING and total lack of intelligant contributions would just free up bandwidth for the rest......but maybe the Honda board would be a better place to push your opinions...... that way the arrows can point to all the neon lights....

we're done.........good-bye
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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My flux capacitor is better than yours s
oh yeah!!! well the Gays of Lidar say that the DeLoran had directional arrows that told you when you were passing a while accelerating to 88mph but only the Valentine
would travel back to the future
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yeah and you will always be a n00b until you start following the rules around here and gain our respects.
Why you gotta hate on me? I only got beef with Zorro...or I did, and even he likes me now...i think..., I could care less about my seat on the kings' throne of noobism...I am used to it.
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