console lighting.....question/problem
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console lighting.....question/problem
so my center console lighting, the lighting on the rear door window buttons, sunroof button, and i believe the light the illuminates the temperature reading under the gauge cluster all do not work.......anyone know why this would be....? fuse problem?....all my fuses seem to be fine after checking the fuse box....anyone else had this problem? or is there a fuse anywhere else that i am missing....? any input would be appreciated...
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Short circuit in any of those lamps and it probably would take out the n40 relay behind the instrument cluster. Have you had the cluster out and the bulbs inop. since then? Maybe loose connector to rear of cluster.
See if your rear windows work. the wires break in the jamb area that flexes and causes a short. Check by turning the lights on and slowly opening and closing the rear doors especially the left rear. If the lights suddenly start working there you have it.
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See if your rear windows work. the wires break in the jamb area that flexes and causes a short. Check by turning the lights on and slowly opening and closing the rear doors especially the left rear. If the lights suddenly start working there you have it.
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Turn the dimmer up and down while your parking lights are on. Sometimes it's a dirty connection in the potentiometer. FYI, the dimmer is the left knob next to the clock set on the instrument bezel. I thinks it's also the one you push to reset the trip odometer.
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I believe he did not state the instrument cluster lights weren't working, just the others so it couldn't be the dimmer. Unless I can't read.
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Just Humor Me...
He said "center console lighting,...sunroof button, and i believe the light the illuminates the temperature reading under the gauge cluster all do not work." I know for a fact these lights ARE ALL on the dimmer, at least they are on mine. I'm not sure about the ones on the rear doors but they could be, too. If he wants to tear into the dash before simply rotating a knob and possibly getting lucky, great! I personally don't have that much ambition.
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He said "center console lighting,...sunroof button, and i believe the light the illuminates the temperature reading under the gauge cluster all do not work." I know for a fact these lights ARE ALL on the dimmer, at least they are on mine. I'm not sure about the ones on the rear doors but they could be, too. If he wants to tear into the dash before simply rotating a knob and possibly getting lucky, great! I personally don't have that much ambition.
I gave some simple advice about the rear doors, what's your point?
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I guess the missing info is the status of the cluster lighting, which is unmentioned. I assumed that if none of those other groups of lights work that the cluster lights are also out, hence my reference to the dimmer. He didn't mention the Lamp Fail Indicator status, either. Given the unknowns, was my suggestion that far off base? So my point is that I am not a complete idiot, as you seem to imply. But that's OK. I'm probably wrong completely. The electrical systems on these cars are so ridiculous that I wouldn't be surprised if the tire pressure has something to do with it!
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so my center console lighting, the lighting on the rear door window buttons, sunroof button, and i believe the light the illuminates the temperature reading under the gauge cluster all do not work.......anyone know why this would be....? fuse problem?....all my fuses seem to be fine after checking the fuse box....anyone else had this problem? or is there a fuse anywhere else that i am missing....? any input would be appreciated...
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If the hazard and a/c/c panels don't light up it's probably the red fuse in the instrument cluster or a unplugged connection at the rear of the instrument cluster.
Hopefully this clarifies the system a little. There still can be other issues but will require more info to pinpoint.
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I guess the missing info is the status of the cluster lighting, which is unmentioned. I assumed that if none of those other groups of lights work that the cluster lights are also out, hence my reference to the dimmer. He didn't mention the Lamp Fail Indicator status, either. Given the unknowns, was my suggestion that far off base? So my point is that I am not a complete idiot, as you seem to imply. But that's OK. I'm probably wrong completely. The electrical systems on these cars are so ridiculous that I wouldn't be surprised if the tire pressure has something to do with it!
He specifically titled this thread "Console lighting" not Cluster lighting. I don't know everything either but I guarantee you I have chased more problems on these cars than you have. This is what I do for a living.
The lamp failure indicator only checks outside bulbs.
I did not tell him to take the car apart, but it may be nec. to do before it's over and I will provide fast and easy checks in a methodical manner progressing to more difficult tasks if nec..
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I stand corrected. Impressive!
So, why did my right rear side bulb (the small 5008 bulb) fail to light with the switch in the parking light position, causing my lamp failure light to come on? Every time I turned the switch to park with the engine running, the failure lamp came on. If I turned the parking lights off, the failure lamp went out. All I did to "fix" it was step on the brake with the ignition on. Now the failure lamp is off and have not had the problem since. Maybe I need a priest...
So, why did my right rear side bulb (the small 5008 bulb) fail to light with the switch in the parking light position, causing my lamp failure light to come on? Every time I turned the switch to park with the engine running, the failure lamp came on. If I turned the parking lights off, the failure lamp went out. All I did to "fix" it was step on the brake with the ignition on. Now the failure lamp is off and have not had the problem since. Maybe I need a priest...
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I stand corrected. Impressive!
So, why did my right rear side bulb (the small 5008 bulb) fail to light with the switch in the parking light position, causing my lamp failure light to come on? Every time I turned the switch to park with the engine running, the failure lamp came on. If I turned the parking lights off, the failure lamp went out. All I did to "fix" it was step on the brake with the ignition on. Now the failure lamp is off and have not had the problem since. Maybe I need a priest...
So, why did my right rear side bulb (the small 5008 bulb) fail to light with the switch in the parking light position, causing my lamp failure light to come on? Every time I turned the switch to park with the engine running, the failure lamp came on. If I turned the parking lights off, the failure lamp went out. All I did to "fix" it was step on the brake with the ignition on. Now the failure lamp is off and have not had the problem since. Maybe I need a priest...Rich
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Thanks, Rich! I'll investigate it further. That tail light assembly has been replaced with a used one due to a small rear collision a few years ago and they did a lousy job on the repair.
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wow...i appreciate the arguement amongst the both of you....they provide some helpful info...btw..my instrument cluster still works and the light indicator which kicks in if any light is out is not on....and the bulb does work...i will try some of the tips that you guys have mentioned and i will let you guys know....and the tire pressure is ok....lol
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after finally getting around to it....the culprit to my light problem indeed was the Instrument Cluster Fuse Element (Part No. 2015460025). Thanks for the help guys.....especially CLJ for the part/part number....
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1995, 2015460025, class, cluster, console, display, flickering, fuse, instrument, light, lighting, lights, m3, temperature, w124
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