jmoney6

I have a 93 300e 4matic grandpa driven all its life (remember I'm 18) Picked it up with 180k on the clock. The motor is basically driving its age startign to slow down and such.

So basically what I'm doing is turnign this thign into a hammer or as close as possible. Does anyoen have a full spec sheet of what came with a hammer. And any resources for some parts would be very helpful.

If I can't make it a hammer, I'm going to do a e420 motor twin turbo with full suspension. Any help/suggestions would be awsome

LoveLEE143

Is grandpa funding this entended venture?

Garfunkle_W124

Ahem Ahem. I would not use such a weathered car for this project. Especially if you are going to turbo it. Good luck though

ZedStyle

good luck with that

jmoney6

ha, I wish, I'm paying for the WHOLE thing but its worth every penny

jmoney6

Well no, its the runnign gear, The motor runs great just not as great as off the showroom. The body and most everything on the inside is in near mint condition. Its not like a rust bucket by any means. Plus, the turbo woudl go onto a better motor which woudl be fully built up, with a fully rebuilt transmission.

BlahPunk

more power to ya brotha! good luck with the project. no hate here!

ZedStyle

it will be cheaper for you to sell it and buy an e420 to start with. i just saw a 94 e420 for sale with about 25k less miles than your car for $3,500. you would be halfway there and have the facelift front as a bonus.

anyway, i'm putting $5 on this project never happening, even though i would love to see it done.

Garfunkle_W124

May i suggest you sell it and buy a 500E if you have all that money? just my opinion. Even if it is in good physical condition, it is bound to have problems.

jmoney6

haha thats just drive to get it done. But no, I have a $4000 sound system already in my car. So i'm not ripping it out. But the whole car is beign painted black, everything no chrome. And i really don;t care hwo it looks, just that i could smoke just about anythign out there. As for the motor, I can get an e420 motor for about 1200. and tranny for 500. (good casing will be rebuilt with longer gears). so Basically brand new motor and tranny for like 3000. (1000 job, because I can do some work and my buddy owns a shop). So not really that bad. But I really want to do quad cams, at least and a twin turbo I can refurb turbos for like 2000.

Garfunkle_W124

Sounds like you have a legit plan. I like seeing people beef up old Benzo's so you better not let us down

LoveLEE143

Find a 5-speed to replace the slushbox. And the lsd from a 190E 16v

ZedStyle

this is not like doing a b18 swap into a honda civic, you will need way more than just motor and tranny mounts. you need to put in a new crossmember, rebuild the firewall, etc. etc.
i'm not sure why you would go through all the trouble when you can buy a car with less miles and a 420 already in it... you don't want to go through the hassle of switching your stereo out, but you're fine with rebuilding the entire front end of the car??
also, you have a 4matic, so that will add an extra layer of complication with the drivetrain.
i can see why you would do this with a coupe or cab, since they didn't come with a v8, but sedans did... putting a 420 into a sedan seems redundant...
i'm done now. doubt this will happen, but definitely good luck with it though, would be a nice accomplishment for you...

jmoney6

plus i like my car, iono i'd feel like cheatings doing it with the motor in place. I like the challenges u know, an dit would be alot more customer to have a v8 in a car never meant for a v8. With quad cams an e420 and twin turbo ball park estimate do you guys thing 450-500hp could be reasonable, and yes a 5 speed tranny will deff be goign in there with out a doubt.)

jmoney6

oh and about the drive train, i'm prob goign to buy an e420 that was rear ended for the motor and tranny, (or buy the seperatly), and swap the drivetrain. I like a challenge,

rooney2006

dude, that is beyond a challenge. That's just a waste of your time. You could sell the sound system alone and buy a 420 and be like more than half done. Just my 2 cents. But best of luck to you man. Ditto to the no hate, just don't want you to go through more trouble than you're already going to have naturally.

jmoney6

scratch that, I just read through my e-mails the frame is rusting on the 300e 4matic. So it looks like i'm buying an e420. Will let you know what happens tho, step by step. (i'm going to college so i might nto get any work done until x-mas time) Bu twill keep everyone posted).

rooney2006

make sure to post pictures as you have a chance. good luck again, man.

Eliot

The E420 shouldn't be more expensive to run. Your just trading expenses for the most part.

- Brake Pads are thin and they can go quickly. Thats the only real regular tariff I can think of.

With the 4Matic you'd have to worry about the transfer case going. Inevitable and always expensive but at least they come in predictable intervals.

LoveLEE143

vili1982

I agree with Gar, 4Matics are no way to modify.

ZedStyle

somebody owes me $5.
if you felt like doing this 'with the v8 already in place' was cheating, why not just buy another 300E?
what you SHOULD do is buy a coupe or cab and then do the swap.
i'm putting my $5 winnings up on this twin turbo thing never happening... again, would love to see it done, so i will gladly look stupid when you complete it, but i think i won't.

LoveLEE143

I am going to go out on a limb and agree with you. The amount of work to actually make this happen is quite steep and expensive. At 18 not unless you have a very very very good job, have a trust fund, hit the lottery, or trappin' the financials alone are a show stopper. Plus the choice of the worse platform to start with. But good luck and take pictures.

Garfunkle_W124

Hmmm. Hope to hear from you around x-mas...