good luck with the project. no hate here!
Finally going for it
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1993 Mercedes 300e 4-matic (m103 motor)
Finally going for it
I have a 93 300e 4matic grandpa driven all its life (remember I'm 18) Picked it up with 180k on the clock. The motor is basically driving its age startign to slow down and such.
So basically what I'm doing is turnign this thign into a hammer or as close as possible. Does anyoen have a full spec sheet of what came with a hammer. And any resources for some parts would be very helpful.
If I can't make it a hammer, I'm going to do a e420 motor twin turbo with full suspension. Any help/suggestions would be awsome
So basically what I'm doing is turnign this thign into a hammer or as close as possible. Does anyoen have a full spec sheet of what came with a hammer. And any resources for some parts would be very helpful.
If I can't make it a hammer, I'm going to do a e420 motor twin turbo with full suspension. Any help/suggestions would be awsome
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Well no, its the runnign gear, The motor runs great just not as great as off the showroom. The body and most everything on the inside is in near mint condition. Its not like a rust bucket by any means. Plus, the turbo woudl go onto a better motor which woudl be fully built up, with a fully rebuilt transmission.
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it will be cheaper for you to sell it and buy an e420 to start with. i just saw a 94 e420 for sale with about 25k less miles than your car for $3,500. you would be halfway there and have the facelift front as a bonus.
anyway, i'm putting $5 on this project never happening, even though i would love to see it done.
anyway, i'm putting $5 on this project never happening, even though i would love to see it done.
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Well no, its the runnign gear, The motor runs great just not as great as off the showroom. The body and most everything on the inside is in near mint condition. Its not like a rust bucket by any means. Plus, the turbo woudl go onto a better motor which woudl be fully built up, with a fully rebuilt transmission.
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haha thats just drive to get it done. But no, I have a $4000 sound system already in my car. So i'm not ripping it out. But the whole car is beign painted black, everything no chrome. And i really don;t care hwo it looks, just that i could smoke just about anythign out there. As for the motor, I can get an e420 motor for about 1200. and tranny for 500. (good casing will be rebuilt with longer gears). so Basically brand new motor and tranny for like 3000. (1000 job, because I can do some work and my buddy owns a shop). So not really that bad. But I really want to do quad cams, at least and a twin turbo I can refurb turbos for like 2000.
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haha thats just drive to get it done. But no, I have a $4000 sound system already in my car. So i'm not ripping it out. But the whole car is beign painted black, everything no chrome. And i really don;t care hwo it looks, just that i could smoke just about anythign out there. As for the motor, I can get an e420 motor for about 1200. and tranny for 500. (good casing will be rebuilt with longer gears). so Basically brand new motor and tranny for like 3000. (1000 job, because I can do some work and my buddy owns a shop). So not really that bad. But I really want to do quad cams, at least and a twin turbo I can refurb turbos for like 2000.
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this is not like doing a b18 swap into a honda civic, you will need way more than just motor and tranny mounts. you need to put in a new crossmember, rebuild the firewall, etc. etc.
i'm not sure why you would go through all the trouble when you can buy a car with less miles and a 420 already in it... you don't want to go through the hassle of switching your stereo out, but you're fine with rebuilding the entire front end of the car??
also, you have a 4matic, so that will add an extra layer of complication with the drivetrain.
i can see why you would do this with a coupe or cab, since they didn't come with a v8, but sedans did... putting a 420 into a sedan seems redundant...
i'm done now. doubt this will happen, but definitely good luck with it though, would be a nice accomplishment for you...
i'm not sure why you would go through all the trouble when you can buy a car with less miles and a 420 already in it... you don't want to go through the hassle of switching your stereo out, but you're fine with rebuilding the entire front end of the car??
also, you have a 4matic, so that will add an extra layer of complication with the drivetrain.
i can see why you would do this with a coupe or cab, since they didn't come with a v8, but sedans did... putting a 420 into a sedan seems redundant...
i'm done now. doubt this will happen, but definitely good luck with it though, would be a nice accomplishment for you...
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plus i like my car, iono i'd feel like cheatings doing it with the motor in place. I like the challenges u know, an dit would be alot more customer to have a v8 in a car never meant for a v8. With quad cams an e420 and twin turbo ball park estimate do you guys thing 450-500hp could be reasonable, and yes a 5 speed tranny will deff be goign in there with out a doubt.)
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oh and about the drive train, i'm prob goign to buy an e420 that was rear ended for the motor and tranny, (or buy the seperatly), and swap the drivetrain. I like a challenge,
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dude, that is beyond a challenge. That's just a waste of your time. You could sell the sound system alone and buy a 420 and be like more than half done. Just my 2 cents. But best of luck to you man. Ditto to the no hate, just don't want you to go through more trouble than you're already going to have naturally.
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scratch that, I just read through my e-mails the frame is rusting on the 300e 4matic. So it looks like i'm buying an e420. Will let you know what happens tho, step by step. (i'm going to college so i might nto get any work done until x-mas time) Bu twill keep everyone posted).
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The E420 shouldn't be more expensive to run. Your just trading expenses for the most part.
- Brake Pads are thin and they can go quickly. Thats the only real regular tariff I can think of.
With the 4Matic you'd have to worry about the transfer case going. Inevitable and always expensive but at least they come in predictable intervals.
- Brake Pads are thin and they can go quickly. Thats the only real regular tariff I can think of.
With the 4Matic you'd have to worry about the transfer case going. Inevitable and always expensive but at least they come in predictable intervals.
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scratch that, I just read through my e-mails the frame is rusting on the 300e 4matic. So it looks like i'm buying an e420. Will let you know what happens tho, step by step. (i'm going to college so i might nto get any work done until x-mas time) Bu twill keep everyone posted).
if you felt like doing this 'with the v8 already in place' was cheating, why not just buy another 300E?
what you SHOULD do is buy a coupe or cab and then do the swap.
i'm putting my $5 winnings up on this twin turbo thing never happening... again, would love to see it done, so i will gladly look stupid when you complete it, but i think i won't.
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somebody owes me $5.
if you felt like doing this 'with the v8 already in place' was cheating, why not just buy another 300E?
what you SHOULD do is buy a coupe or cab and then do the swap.
i'm putting my $5 winnings up on this twin turbo thing never happening... again, would love to see it done, so i will gladly look stupid when you complete it, but i think i won't.
if you felt like doing this 'with the v8 already in place' was cheating, why not just buy another 300E?
what you SHOULD do is buy a coupe or cab and then do the swap.
i'm putting my $5 winnings up on this twin turbo thing never happening... again, would love to see it done, so i will gladly look stupid when you complete it, but i think i won't.
Plus the choice of the worse platform to start with. But good luck and take pictures. 
