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Old 08-21-2007, 01:14 PM
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Hey, no loss right? Arent you going to be sad to cut into your beautiful hood? I would be :C
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Hey, no loss right? Arent you going to be sad to cut into your beautiful hood? I would be :C
Complete paint job eventually, so now's the time to experiment
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Haha, I suppose so Whats the paint job going to be? Keeping the VIN color? Or going a little risque? Paint style ala Viper? o_O Put your old racing numbers on the side? Or a nice air-brush mural Hmm, or maybe a nice, piano black glossy finish?
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Originally Posted by Saijin_Naib
Haha, I suppose so Whats the paint job going to be? Keeping the VIN color? Or going a little risque? Paint style ala Viper? o_O Put your old racing numbers on the side? Or a nice air-brush mural Hmm, or maybe a nice, piano black glossy finish?
Staying with signal red over shell grey cladding, just like it rolled off the production line.
MB only produced 200 units world wide in that combo !!!!
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if they were going to be treating the merc like a civic, they'd be discussing how big of a chrome coffee can they were going to be putting on their exhust pipe...
I am running a 3inch tip at rear-oval but it is necessary as the exhaust is a full 3 inch front to back-again my car is turbo and it is a keeper so I don't care much what people say but keeping the wiring harness from frying is a major concern to me as I have a euro Cabriolet that does not have a US fuel control system so getting parts will prove difficult and extremely costly with the current exchange rate...

On a stock car it would be silly,,but 300Hp+ of forced induction and teh associated heat is worth having the car look a bit out of touch....
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if they were going to be treating the merc like a civic, they'd be discussing how big of a chrome coffee can they were going to be putting on their exhust pipe...

That and air vents


Btw: If you decide to put those air vents on, your engine will feel a cooling difference only highway driving which in that case I have to say is a good idea, but if you are putting them on for show, then I have no comment.
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Originally Posted by vili1982
That and air vents


Btw: If you decide to put those air vents on, your engine will feel a cooling difference only highway driving which in that case I have to say is a good idea, but if you are putting them on for show, then I have no comment.
If you've been following the thread(s) you will see that my application and the 500E application posted by "Mc Bear" are to reduce engine bay heat on modified engines.

In my case it's a new twin turbo install that produces as much incremental heat as it does power over the stock engine.

In essence my install has conservatively increased power output by a minimum of 50% on a Mustang Dyno and has resulted in recorded 0-60 times in the low to mid five second range.

The vent application is heat extraction and functions regardless of the vehicle speed, of course more efficient at high speed, but venting heat even when stopped.


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I bought this car new in may of 1988 and never had an "urge" to vent the hood in it's stock condition. !!!
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[QUOTE=vili1982;2378198]That and air vents


Btw: If you decide to put those air vents on, your engine will feel a cooling difference only highway driving which in that case I have to say is a good idea, but if you are putting them on for show, then I have no comment.

TURBO....
TURBO....
TURBO.....
and my car looks so bad already hood vents will take away from the people noticing what a POS it is as they will be laughing at the Honda Civic hood vents.....notice the huge 3 inch oval tip that looks so out of place that I can't even stop laughing at it...you are right hood vents will only cool it down at highway speed,and since California has so much traffic,I will mostly be easing along the 405 at 20 mph,there is no way the turbo will generate enough heat,,and plus the extra layer of clear coat I sprayed on the hood should protect against 400 degree heat at least for 10 years, and in 10 years I will surely get tired of looking at this ugly car and sold it off to some sucker and just get a Honda Civic with a 6 inch rear muffler and mustang cowl induction hood fiberglassed on with a 140hp hybrid motor,thats if I could even sell it as they will never be anyone as dumb as I am and actually want a 95 Eclass cabriolet 400+ hp turbo with hood vents,there could only be 1 idiot for such a car and that is me....darn you are right...

95 E class Turbo Cabriolet (not dynoed yet but realistic 280-320HP)C32 Brakes,SL 55 AMG wheels,AMG pedals,Burlwood shiftknob,600 grill,Alpine/Kenwood 300 watt surround sound,Factory keyless alarm/entry, and many more pointless mods over the year---selling this POS cheap,cheap...or trade for VTEC Honda Civic,

So glad to let this POS go now, man are you right this whole darn car just looks like crap,why did I ever waste my time and all that money,I wanted one of these cabriolets since High School back in 93, waited until 2000 to get this one and until 2007 to add turbo when I could have just saved my money and time and get that Civic....thanks
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Originally Posted by dingo joe


if they were going to be treating the merc like a civic, they'd be discussing how big of a chrome coffee can they were going to be putting on their exhust pipe...
Its "You're retarded" not "Your retarded" gosh man, get your grammar straight.
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Originally Posted by dingo joe

Is that image supposed to be funny because it is spelled incorrectly?
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I have to say I prefer the z34 louvers, they are a better scale with the other design elements of the car, especially with an avantgarde grille. Look at the 1970's SLC's that had the louvers in the rear quarter windows... very similar.

Whatever you go with, I would say go flush mounted.
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CoastLine, your car is stunning
Are your turbos by Mosselmann, Turbotechnics or some other?
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Is that image supposed to be funny because it is spelled incorrectly?


If you have to ask...
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[QUOTE=CoastLine;2378381]
Originally Posted by vili1982
,thats if I could even sell it as they will never be anyone as dumb as I am and actually want a 95 Eclass cabriolet 400+ hp turbo with hood vents,there could only be 1 idiot for such a car and that is me....darn you are right...

Conscript me as a deck mate for your "ship of fools".....and an old one at that !!!!

Oh the pleasure of a twenty year old car smoking late model V8's....

They can't imagine how much "push you back in your seat" horsepower and torque this crude I6 is capable of developing.
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I have to say I prefer the z34 louvers, they are a better scale with the other design elements of the car, especially with an avantgarde grille. Look at the 1970's SLC's that had the louvers in the rear quarter windows... very similar.

Whatever you go with, I would say go flush mounted.
Ultimately I'll find a shop to do a flush mount on the Z34 as they would be the most effective based on their overall area.

Temporarily I'll go with the 280Z's which I'll color match and install myself.
This is an easy install, just template and cut the sheet metal.
They will surface mount 1/4" - 3/8" above the hood surface.

I'm going over to 500Ecstacy where they have had a similar thread going for many months....seems they also identified the engine bay heat problem !!!!
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I STILL dont understand why certain members choose to insult RBY's ideas, aren't you guys reading the REASON as to why he NEEDS the vents?

Some people are just plain
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Hey vili....chill out, you are obviously not getting it. Do yourself a favor and stop posting here.
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I just assume they cant read if they are that stupid
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Is that image supposed to be funny because it is spelled incorrectly?
I thought that was the joke of the jpg. Maaaaaybe not.
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Originally Posted by RBYCC
Ultimately I'll find a shop to do a flush mount on the Z34 as they would be the most effective based on their overall area.

Temporarily I'll go with the 280Z's which I'll color match and install myself.
This is an easy install, just template and cut the sheet metal.
They will surface mount 1/4" - 3/8" above the hood surface.

I'm going over to 500Ecstacy where they have had a similar thread going for many months....seems they also identified the engine bay heat problem !!!!
We have been batting it around forever, I think. ducting in and venting out are the only two easy solutions. More expensive are replacing the radiator with a bigger, custom unit, bringing in bigger pusher and puller fans and even vent drafting the exhaust with to cool the system faster.

I put a sensor in the engine bay and was running over 400F at one point for pretty long periods of time. And that was with a rebuilt M119.
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Originally Posted by RBYCC
Ultimately I'll find a shop to do a flush mount on the Z34 as they would be the most effective based on their overall area.

Temporarily I'll go with the 280Z's which I'll color match and install myself.
This is an easy install, just template and cut the sheet metal.
They will surface mount 1/4" - 3/8" above the hood surface.

I'm going over to 500Ecstacy where they have had a similar thread going for many months....seems they also identified the engine bay heat problem !!!!
I agree that the 280Z solution is a bit better. I like the vents mid hood. I think that is a good compromise on pressure and will be much easier to drain from that position. You should not hit the structural braces from that position.
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Originally Posted by McBear
I thought that was the joke of the jpg. Maaaaaybe not.
It's so hard to tell with the level of English skills so many people on the internet possess, or care to use.
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Lol, good point myfirstbenz
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CoastLine, your car is stunning
Are your turbos by Mosselmann, Turbotechnics or some other?
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A more rediculous thing you could do is make the hood a huge heat sink. Like weld aluminum fins down the hood. Now that will disapate the heat the most. I would suggest installing a scoop underneath to allow for flow through the upper vents to be maximized( thats if your car isn't lowered to much) almost a lip spoiler but flow doesn't go through any other heat transfer units. Just a thought from an engineer!


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