stephensocal85

So disappointingly, tonight I was unable to fit my new OEM 16" wheels (not the 15" saucers but the later ones often seen on face-lifted w124's).. When I bought my car it had chromed w210 wheels I am not particularly fond of and would like to get rid of ASAP. Upon leaving the tire shop I heard grinding noises and realized the wheels were hitting the suspension, I had fitted what I thought was an okay tire size: 215/55/16 all around. Long story short I had to take them off and put on my old wheels to drive home. This does not make any sense to me as these wheels were indeed offered on these cars starting in 1990 I believe? The shop recommended I try some spacers but I wanted to see if this has happened to anyone else? Is there something different about the 16's I need to account for when installing them?

Thanks!

ZorroAMG

What are the size and offset? Is the car lowered? We need more deets!!

CDP

Stephan,

Off-Topic but come out to the meet/BBQ this weekend.

stephensocal85

when? where?

i'm going to try, we've got guest from around the country coming over to my house this weekend, so i won't be able to if it's on sunday.

hopefully it's on saturday (am-early pm works great for me)

ZedStyle

the 16" wheels were from the s class, the e class had the same style, but 15".
having said that, people put the s class wheels on all the time, so i'm not sure what happened with yours... did you see where they were rubbing against the suspension?

ShanMan

rubbing on the SUSPENSION can only mean one thing.....your wheel offset is too deep and you will have to run spacers to decrease the offset.

ZorroAMG

LOL If you want help, answer the question: WHAT ARE THE SIZE AND OFFSET?

stephensocal85

Wheels are 7.5 x 16 H2 ET51

Ah ha, I didn't know it was the S that got the 16s and the w124 still had 15" versions of these... Although still I guess it should fit.

These are the exact wheels I'm trying to fit:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/pts/501301878.html

They're wrapped with Conti 215/55/16s

thanks again


Edit:

Okay this info should help, I don't know what the offsets are but:

These are the current wheels I'm running:

Which are 16x7.5 also..

Looks like the w124 versions of the 8-hole were 15x6.5, however if a 7.5 width already fits shouldn't there be no problem?

I got the info and pic from here:
http://www.wheelcollision.com/merc6.htm

YNVDIZW124

That offset is way too high...Try some spacer or another set of wheels with the correct offset. Max you can got on a 6.5 wide wheel is 44mm

ZorroAMG

Offset is zeee problemo, as YNV has stated.

I have an 8" wheel with 35 offset and it's close.

AMGDave

Most S-class wheels don't work well on the E-class due to the offset issue. Your tire size is fine, but the offset is all wrong. You'll either need hubcentric spacers for these wheels, or you'll need to get the correct wheels. If you use the S-class wheels, you should also use special bolts that have an M12 thread with an M14 ball seat. The S/SL wheels use M14 bolts with a larger seat, shaped differently...

CDP

from the homeland?

Anyways, It's on Saturday and starts at 12PM and will probably go until 7PM.

It's in Santa Ana on Westminister and Harbor. You have my number and Aim - hit me up for more details.

stephensocal85

Something rather important just came up, and I don't think I can go to the meet. Wayy sad I can't go. Who knows, maybe I'll be able to make it to the later part of the meet.

BUT, the good news, is that Saturday, I'm scheduled to take delivery of my W204 I ordered way back in November 2007. =)

I don't know where I put your number though, IM me w/ it. Thx.

crr1612

niiice, new c class. i feel like mercedes is really bringing back the construction quality with it

190E 16V

I am looking at some 18x8.5s, ET35, tomorrow - will those fit my 500E???

I am wondering about rubbing on fronts. How "close" are yours?

Can't take car for test-fit, unfortunately.

AMGDave

18x8.5 ET35 should work ok on a 500E, the flared fenders will easily accept an 8.5 up front, and that offset is ok. Not likely to rub at all, either. I have 18x8.5 wheels on the front of my E500 with 255/40/18 tires, and no rubbing. Don't try this on a standard W124, though.

BTW - side note about using S or SL wheels on a W124... those cars use M14 bolts, with a larger ball seat. I would strongly recommend using M12 bolts (needed for the 124) which have an M14 ball seat (needed for S/SL wheels). They are available from RAD USA Direct in assorted lengths (you'll need to double-check the length you need also.)

190E 16V

Thanks Dave;

Yes, I was worried about rubbing with my 35 offset.

Out of curiosity, what is the offset of your wheels?

Also, TireRack recommends a 245/40/18 tire. Do your 255's fit better?
What is the difference in actual outside diameter between 245's and 255's? is it negligible?

190E 16V

I think I know the bolts you're talking about - I saw them in a diagram in the 500 factory supplement. I'll have to investigate that further with my wheels.
Thanks

AMGDave

I wish I knew what the offset is. They are custom 3-pc wheels from iForged, so there is no "ETxx" marking on the back, and since I didn't order them, I don't know the specs.

About tire size, the originally had 245-40-18 tires on there. But I got a good deal on a set of 255's, which were factory fitment on the new SL600, on an 8.5 wheel. Either one fits fine, but don't go any smaller than the 245.

In the rear I have 18x10.0 with 285-35's, had previously been 275-35... same reason as the fronts, also from the SL600 wheels. (I've got the 2007 SL600 wheels for sale, if anyone is interested btw... rears are 9.5 wide.)

190E 16V

Thx Dave.

h3nnin

Could anyone let me know how I could run 265/35 R18s on a std W124? They are beautiful AMG alloys with new tires being offered gratis! so far from charts and one feedback it's not looking possibly - any suggestions?

Many thanks

STLe320

Yeah, you could, on the rear end of a E500...but like AMGDAVE said, nothing larger then 8" wide will fit the standard w124