--This looks sick--Cold air intak
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I would steer clear of Dan's setup, its not really a cold air intake, although I am sure it does ingest cold air from the front grill assembly, but its ingesting more hot air then cold.
A true cold air intake (like our factory intakes) draws air from out side the engine bay only.
A true cold air intake (like our factory intakes) draws air from out side the engine bay only.
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If you fabricate a box to surround the filter and feed it cold air(which is what the stock airbox does), and used 3" ABS tubing instead of metal (ABS conducts less heat), then a tube style intake like the ones shown up top wouldn't be bad. If you ensure the intake ingests cold air, and doesn't absorb heat... then an intake that flows better than stock will make more power than stock. Mercedes designed the intake on this car more to reduce intake noise than anything. It's not a bad intake design, just not the perfect design for performance. If a quiet engine isn't more important than power, then the stock intake isn't the best one. You might be surprised by the sound difference between a tubular intake and the stock airbox. It sounds awesome. The car growls. 
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I would steer clear of Dan's setup, its not really a cold air intake, although I am sure it does ingest cold air from the front grill assembly, but its ingesting more hot air then cold.
A true cold air intake (like our factory intakes) draws air from out side the engine bay only.
A true cold air intake (like our factory intakes) draws air from out side the engine bay only.
. If you do not think that I get cold air, then at least I have the throttle response, sporty growl, washable filter, and successful ability to pass the emission test to keep 
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He is referring to a enclosed box like this one in my CLK. It isolates the filter from the engine and help prevents it from sucking in hot air. (This is no longer in my CLK, I replaced it with a factory C36 intake system)
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What you have has no "ram" effect at all.
You need a positive pressure area feeding into the intake to have a ram effect.
You're just sucking air from the engine compartment, not pushing air in from an area of higher pressure.
The stock intake has more of a ram effect then what you currently are using.
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"SRI" which you define as short ram intake.
What you have has no "ram" effect at all.
You need a positive pressure area feeding into the intake to have a ram effect.
You're just sucking air from the engine compartment, not pushing air in from an area of higher pressure.
The stock intake has more of a ram effect then what you currently are using.
What you have has no "ram" effect at all.
You need a positive pressure area feeding into the intake to have a ram effect.
You're just sucking air from the engine compartment, not pushing air in from an area of higher pressure.
The stock intake has more of a ram effect then what you currently are using.
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If you look at the pix I posted earlier in the thread you'll see a 3.25" hose that terminates in a plenum and has air forced in from where the tow hook cover was removed. This is a true ram effect.
All you are doing is using the engine vacuum to draw the air into the filter...no more, no less and no real gain in power.
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Dan do you have anyway to measure the IAT with your setup? If you did you would clearly see that the ambient temps under the hood could very easily reach 115 degrees at a stop during summer months. While moving the temps would drop by maybe 10-15 degrees.
Not very efficient and a loss of power with those temps since timing will be retarded to prevent knock.
Not very efficient and a loss of power with those temps since timing will be retarded to prevent knock.
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IMO, the only thing you could possibly do to your intake to make it better, or whatever...Is get a K&N Filter for better air flow. Mercedes spent just about...FOREVER designing these engines to put out the most power and performance available. We're not dealing with Honda Civics here man.
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Then why couldnt the engines come putting out 800+hp stock, if they are so perfectly engineered? Or how about get better fuel economy, not somewhere down in the 5% range of energy efficiency? Come now, dont fool yourself.
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. I did state this though: "...then at least I have the throttle response, sporty growl, washable filter, and successful ability to pass the emission test to keep."
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Neither a Ram nor a Cold....
HAI FTL.
Dude, I'd rather doubt you have better throttle response as your car will run hotter than any stock engine.
This method is full of Fail
HAI FTL.
Dude, I'd rather doubt you have better throttle response as your car will run hotter than any stock engine.
This method is full of Fail
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Wow you all are still stuck on this? Like said before The stock setup is already a cold air intake and is your safest route to keeping foreign things out. If you think about it its a style of ram-air and since it gets air from the radiator the air is cooled to a degree and is as good as it gets. If your not going force fed aka supercharged or turbocharged the best bet is to get a drop in K&N filter which almost all autopart stores will sell from $45-$60. If the Oiling thing is a concern from that point go with AEM they are oil-free. BAMM!!!
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A question I have for guys with a K&N filter on their w124 does it make your engine alot louder? I wouldn't mind that since alot of us here look so AMG and don't sound it. Speaking of that are there any easy to get a hold of mufflers or exhaust systems that will help our w124's sound more AMG like? Why not ask this since thats what this thread is gonna lead too anyway!
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my next thing is an exhaust too. the universal remus ones go for ~$300, which i guess is not too bad.
i might look into something else too, since i'm not looking for hp gains or sound, just something that looks decent instead of the two sad-looking danglies i have there now
i might look into something else too, since i'm not looking for hp gains or sound, just something that looks decent instead of the two sad-looking danglies i have there now
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my next thing is an exhaust too. the universal remus ones go for ~$300, which i guess is not too bad.
i might look into something else too, since i'm not looking for hp gains or sound, just something that looks decent instead of the two sad-looking danglies i have there now
i might look into something else too, since i'm not looking for hp gains or sound, just something that looks decent instead of the two sad-looking danglies i have there now
http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/twin...v3-p-1125.html
