E-Class (W124) 1984-1995: E 260, E 300, E 320, E 420, E 500 (Includes CE, T, TD models)

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Hypothetically speaking... paint

If I were to paint the car myself a flat black, and I had about 50 hours to do it, could I do a good job of it? I don't plan on repainting the engine bay and all that jazz, just the exterior. I've never done anything like this before, and I would pay someone to do it but I have a couple months before I can pick up a second job and be able to afford to do something like this.

I think I could find random hours within the next month despite classes and work during which I could undertake a project like this, though I don't want to spend all that time to end up with a ****ty finish, or a half sanded car...

I haven't done any of the work on my car except for changing HID's I figure if I'm ever going to learn and make my modding truly my own doing, now is the time to start.

Is it worth it? As a first timer will it look like ****? I'm pretty patient, and don't mind redoing things, I think the biggest problem will be priming it for paint, as I've never sanded paint off a car before.

I'm just wondering if this is feasible? I need someone to talk me INTO doing this, not out of it.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Im honestly looking into doing the same thing. Im still not sure if I have the cahjones to actually paint the car, but Im definitely looking into doing all the prep work. Anyone will tell you that a good paint job is all in the prepping.

You say you have patience, so I say why not? Just take your time to take apart every necessary component carefully, and label everything for reinstalling.

Look up as many articles as possible on sanding a car until you feel confident enough to really do it. I say get a keg and invite over as many friends as you can to help you with the actual sanding, or your 50 hours are gonna get eaten up fast.

Good luck!
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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You do know that EVERY finger print will show up and the maintenance will be a bish, right?

Do you still want me to send the grille?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Yeah, I think I can do it if I get help from a friend, my two saturday courses end next week, so that frees up A LOT of my time, and I'm only working 20 hours a week until classes end, I could get this done before I have to start studying for exams.

Any idea how much money I'm looking at for paint/supplies?

Can someone pchop my car in flat black?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ZorroAMG
You do know that EVERY finger print will show up and the maintenance will be a bish, right?

Do you still want me to send the grille?
Yeah, I still want the grille, my phone bill was off the hook and I spent more in vegas than I wanted. Want to hold on to it for a couple weeks? I'll send you $75 next week and $75 + shipping the pay check after and you can send it out then. Deal?

Maintenance isn't a problem with me, I'm absolutely crazy about keeping my car clean and dust free, I usually do a little cleaning every day I take the car out anyway.

Besides, the paint has seen better days, could use a touch up, especially the hood, so why not take the time to individualize my car, I haven't seen anyone with a flat black w124. Then I can maybe carbon fibre the remaining chrome bits, carbon fibre on flat black is HOT.

I want paint like this: https://mbworld.org/forums/slr-mclaren-c199/192490-flat-black-slr-722-a.html

Or is that too "different." It will either make the car look really good, or really cheap.

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Baller. I say do it. you WILL need to de-chrome your rims, though....you know that right?

As for grille...cool.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Baller. I say do it. you WILL need to de-chrome your rims, though....you know that right?

As for grille...cool.
Yeah, I'm kind of getting tired of the chrome anyway, when they're dusty they actually look better, they look polished. I was thinking about black chroming them but if I do this flat black on my car, maybe I'll get them painted like on that SLR.

Someone want to chop flat black onto this bad boy? https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...4&d=1119131597
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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I'd just do flat black wheels with a polished lip!

But as for the paint...I recently repainted mine the champagne/ smoke silver...and I did it myself. The only thing I was worried about was the orange peel look. But I just wet-sanded that biatch and it looked awesome!
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Well, half my car is flat black right now because I'm still thinking about painting it. I park my car in a parking lot where there are a lot of shopping carts so i get a lot of door dings. You can try to buy a cheap gun and some matte paint instead of flat black because it would be easier to paint. Also you can buy a cheap clear with a flatter in it for better maintenance.

Here is an example of what i'm thinking of doing but in black because i'm getting black wheels too. I want to do a combination of matte and gloss black.

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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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Primer black is kinda sick Im very partial to piano black myself.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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I'm very interested in this myself. When I first got my car I didn't realize that it was over heating cause I was told mercedes run very hot. And the heat sheild under the hood was deteriorated completely almost so it led to hot spot showing on the hood just above where of course the exhaust manifolds are. Since my ce is black does that make it easier or harder?
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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Think My car would look ok if I paint my rims black with a polished lip like YNVDIZW124? Are rims any easier? I wonder if the heat from the rotors play a big role.....
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 05:19 AM
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here is some example of mine w124 when it was sealed in mat black before paint...







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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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did you forget to close the door between picture one and two?
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here is some example of mine w124 when it was sealed in mat black before paint...








rubing it in huuuu biach
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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did you forget to close the door between picture one and two?
no I didnt forget to close it the painter kept opening it up..
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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came across some matt cars on the vw forum someone s wanting to do it also so there were some cool pics.. check em out!!!



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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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is that like a primer
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no, it's a base with a flat clear... all of the cars above are like that or the paint will chip with the sun....

I want to do a combination of gloss and semi gloss black...

I like this one...one thing about flat paint....your body work has to be perfect!

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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by YNVDIZW124
no, it's a base with a flat clear... all of the cars above are like that or the paint will chip with the sun....

I want to do a combination of gloss and semi gloss black...

I like this one...one thing about flat paint....your body work has to be perfect!

isnt the chrysler 300 built on the same chassis as our w124s? or something like that?
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yes it was and you can kinda see the lines of the 300e....What if we could put a hemi into our w124??? hmmmm....
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isnt the chrysler 300 built on the same chassis as our w124s? or something like that?
Not w124's, w210's.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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I google it and it say 300e so my guess was w124...it's not the same because of a longer wheel base but it's still pretty cool...i also saw w211? so i don't know...as long it's a mercedes chassis right?
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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I'd say if you're gonna do this yourself, get some good spray guns and a big compressor. Don't do the rattle can thing. I've seen some flat black cars and they look uneven and blotchy... almost like some spots are oily while other spots look dry.

Body and paint work scares me. For me, either I'd save up the money for professional work or do nothing at all... I know you said you don't want to be talked out of it, but you're talking about biting off a huge and high-risk project!

Get some books and some videos. I think videos would be even better because a lot of good paint work has to do with the "art" of it- the "brush" strokes, the prep work, etc. Reading about it won't be as powerfull as seeing it in action.
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