pbuchmueller64

95 E32 despite low mileage ( 60K) and care got problems everywhere with the isolation at the engine connection (temp sensors, camshaft adjuster control etc..)
I am very disappointed, kind of shame from a world leading manufactured car. Don't talking about MB respond: no kulanz, no recall or kind of refund....but most importantly NO modification at all, the replacement parts is a same.
And how much it cost? 6-700 dollar in case lucky,

I don't buy it. I made a decision I will creating my own - using performance heat resistance wires. But I would need the connectors. I am asking for the sources, please tell me somebody where from could I purchasing a connector kit???

peter from CA

pifcat2

I'm curious if the replacement harnesses are made from the same biodegradable sheathing...

pbuchmueller64

basically we are agree about the existing manufacturer defect. If the new parts is different, MB should publishing a service letter . We may find it in the authorized services. Please try to asking about..........

MyE

The question if you are getting the same type of material is a good one and valid one. When they manufactured the biodegradable material for the harnesses, they made a lot of excess for replacements prior to knowing about the issue. Once they were aware that there is a premature failure issue, they changed to a different vendor. Here is the problem, there are many, many new “old” harnesses lying around mixed with the new. There is a good chance that you get a new one with the same issue. I once saw a write up on this forum that provided part numbers and there was a minor difference on how to tell if it is the new “new” type harness or another new “old” one.

pbuchmueller64

, thank you, your is a great answer. Despite kind of new "new" existing and possible to get it with the correct parts number I am focusing to manufacturing one with certain high heat resistant isolated wire ( in the turbine business common wires)

I just want to get the connector ends (male or female..) I am asking help to find it.

Other issue, why is in the engine room hot? It's could be a design , around the engine compartment. The room is with the bottom plate closed intentionally, the radiator and exhaust manifold heating up the room, .......

GEDaggett

Finding those connectors will be very difficult . If they are available your local dealer is going to be the place to find out where to get them. Your best bet is to reuse the ones you have or find a second hand wiring harness off Ebay that you don't have to do anything too. I have seen them used as low as $150.00. Before you said you have a 95 e32 did you mean e320? if so you should be able to find a second hand harness for under $300 but you have to make sure whoever you buy it from offers some type of warranty so that you can examine it and send it back if it has the bio-wires as well. Somewhere in the forums here someone posted the part numbers and explained how to read them to make sure that a wire harness is a replacement or original.

To answer the question of the replacement harness materials it is my understanding that any harness made after 96 was not bio-wire.

Also just gotta ask are you using a translation program to convert your native language to English? (i am really not trying to be mean) If so you should try another program cause the one you are using is pretty rough on the clarity and translation.

pifcat2

I agree the connectors may be difficult to source, I was tempted to have a friend who rebuilds old Porsche harness' take a look at one but never got a failed donor harness. With all the labor hours, he probably couldn't hand build it for much cheaper than the $700 or so price you can buy it new. If you have the resources, the time, and want a higher quality insulation for yourself then go for it.

Hanno

Its a known issue, covered in great detail in other forums. Doesn't make it right but you can at least be prepared for it. Replacements are supposed to be upgraded and not decompose. Why don't you use the connectors you removed with your old harness (throw it over the fence did we?)? In case its no longer available, I have connectors (attached to a bad harness) that you can have for $13 delivered to your door. Its been cut but you can still determine lengths, etc. Its out of a 95 E320 sedan, NO ASR. The connectors are good, were released and removed, not torn off (with the possible exception of the oil level sensor one).

Hanno

EDIT: SOLD to the one who responded first.

pifcat2

We'll see if it's feasible to rebuild.

Thanks Hanno!

pbuchmueller64

It is possible, I would use the old or buy one completely from the junk yard, and solve in. Other problem, I would need a wiring diagram........
I downloaded once already, despite the right description doesn't fit, not correct. For example the temperature sensor for the auxiliary fan is 4 pole - they show two pole......

GEDaggett

Best thing to do is take pics of all points of connection and then you have a reference and make sure you are getting a harness with all the right connectors

rusher

you can not get the special connectors.

you should use your old ones.

here in germany a rebuild wiring harness costs 450€ - if you give your old back.
it will be build with silicon cables from a mb junkie

cu rod

louisyao80

you are a good man,but I think you will have some difficult if no person help you.

can you offer me the wire harness 's picture?

pbuchmueller64

rusher, 450euro still to much, plus the core...impossibile. Please tell me something about MB junkie. What is mean?

pbuchmueller64

louisyao 80, thank you for your offer, please send me any kind of info, my e mail add.: buchmueller@earthklink.net ,
peter

pifcat2

Here's my thread on the other board: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...d.php?t=216048

If they are available for ~$700, then true cost to manufacture is probably $4-500 made if volume. That can only be lower with Asia or South American labor. If there were more sources then they would lower the prices even more to compete or just stop making them...

rusher

MB junkie = MB freak

there is no chance to get it for less money

some connectors are very expensive

here in germany we pay 800€ for original MB trash
the silicon custom harness for 450€ is like for free

pbuchmueller64

ok, thank you for all. Now I know what I will doing. I will manufacturing myself, using the old connectors and heat resistant wires.
After all it is a shame for a world leading manufacturer.

pifcat2

If you want the harness (only one section cut) that I had evaluated, let me know.