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Old May 16, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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95 e320 Wagon, 98 s320 LWB
M104 Recommended Spark Plug

Just bought a 1995 e320 Wagon. Would like to have some recommendations on spark plugs. I had a 1986 300E and used NGK plugs in it. Ran much better.
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Old May 16, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Just use the original MB parts.
You get Bosch plugs...
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Old May 16, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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What would be the correct Bosch number?
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Old May 17, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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bosch f8dc4

or ngk BKR5ES both are oe.Use no anti seize,replace the connectors.www.autohausaz.com has them cheap.
Have you inspected the engine harness to be sure it has the upgraded harness?If not you may shortly be looking at 8bills for the replacement.Have you also checked that you have the upgraded head gasket?If you see oil leaking,better get out the tools.

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Old May 18, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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Looks like the NGK number is a resister plug. On the 86 300e it was recommended not to use a resister plug. Just wondered about this one? I do have the new wiring harness and no oil leaks.

The only other thing I noticed is the Auto Level Control will drift down overnight, but I guess that is normal? Come backup as soon as the car is started.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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plug will nave no affect.If you want bosch oem I think th old mercedesshop now some other funny name had some in stock.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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or ngk BKR5ES both are oe.Use no anti seize,replace the connectors.www.autohausaz.com has them cheap.
why no anti-seize?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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why no anti-seize?
It's not a blanket statement to "never use anti-sieze"..
NGK Bulletin explains ...

http://www.ngkplugpro.ca/content/con...SparkPlugs.pdf

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Old May 18, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RBYCC
It's not a blanket statement to "never use anti-sieze"..
NGK Bulletin explains ...

http://www.ngkplugpro.ca/content/con...SparkPlugs.pdf
thanks, apparently use anti-sieze "Only on spark plugs without special metal plating". I need to find out if Bosch has this plating...
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Old May 19, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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yes they have metal plating

as well as the ngk line for your app..anti-seize if you torque is a quick way to wrong torque.And if you get a speck on the electrode is a quick death to a fine long life plug.So while not a blanket statement(which I was not making)since I was referring to your spark plug and brands.Use no anti-seize

Those delewarians sure like to jump down a frogs throatevery chance they can
probaby extracting that extra long hair makes them ornery.
for some of them it is a life long endeavor.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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as well as the ngk line for your app..anti-seize if you torque is a quick way to wrong torque.And if you get a speck on the electrode is a quick death to a fine long life plug.So while not a blanket statement(which I was not making)since I was referring to your spark plug and brands.Use no anti-seize

Those delewarians sure like to jump down a frogs throatevery chance they can
probaby extracting that extra long hair makes them ornery.
for some of them it is a life long endeavor.
You are so insecure that it is sad...

Why not get over your shortcomings and life deficiencies and be a productive contributor without constant sniping...

The 124 forum tends to work with a great balance without your occasional eruptions which are akin to a pustule on an adolescent face.....

Paint a bullseye on yourself as you tend to do and you will remain a target....
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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RBYCC
It's not a blanket statement to "never use anti-sieze"..
NGK Bulletin explains ...

http://www.ngkplugpro.ca/content/con...SparkPlugs.pdf
Thanks for the useful link!
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Only partially useful. What is the special coating? What is a trivalent coating?... trivalent chromium?? Bosch plugs are nickel plated in the threads.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Only partially useful. What is the special coating? What is a trivalent coating?... trivalent chromium?? Bosch plugs are nickel plated in the threads.
It's chromium " coating" for corrosion resistance and NGK feels a necessity for aluminum head applications.

The nickel plated ( operative word "plated" ) provides a similar corrosion resistance.

The "plated" process is by electric current where the "coating" does not require electric current, more a paint like process.

I think the nickel is superior, but in the case of a spark plug there isn't a real difference in performance.

The nickel or the trivalent chromium act as anti sieze coating.

The problem with applying anti sieze compounds on spark plug threads is that many of the compounds are conductive.

If you use a non conductive anti sieze just reduce your torque by about 20%.

Power plants use anti sieze compounds on turbines fasteners that are torqued and operate under higher temps then a spark plug does.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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I am secure in the knowledge that you are an ***.
Anyone looking at your posts whenever someone makes a contribution to your little pissing pole (since you seem to think you run the W124 forum) can see that it is not me doing any sniping.Look at my history of posts and contributions to the forums.A quick perusal of your posts demonstrates why I replied.
You offer nothing but an occasional jump down peoples gullets.
see
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ad-both-2.html
#26 as a Prima facie example.
You keep working on that hair though
Eventually you may get it extracted
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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I am secure in the knowledge that you are an ***.
Anyone looking at your posts whenever someone makes a contribution to your little pissing pole (since you seem to think you run the W124 forum) can see that it is not me doing any sniping.Look at my history of posts and contributions to the forums.A quick perusal of your posts demonstrates why I replied.
You offer nothing but an occasional jump down peoples gullets.
see
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ad-both-2.html
#26 as a Prima facie example.
You keep working on that hair though
Eventually you may get it extracted
I don't think I "run" anything...I just contribute as everyone else does.
You seem to be the only poster that creates a problem on the 124 forum.

You use #26 post on another thread as an example...you may read but fail to comprehend..
It's I that state that "I'm not too bright" in response to the posters insult.
You are truly a dolt with ego problems...

You are still exhibiting a great deal of insecurity and a lack of intelligence by attempting to communicate in an immature insulting level.

Chronological you have lived many years, but you think at an adolescent level...

I don't think many see you as charming on this forum so it must be how you act....

Go where you're appreciated because it doesn't appear to be on this forum...

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Sorry, RBYCC, I have to agree with Ohlord. Your numerous personal attacks are irritating and getting tiresome.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Sorry, RBYCC, I have to agree with Ohlord. Your numerous personal attacks are irritating and getting tiresome.
And I've attacked who without first being attacked ?
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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I comprehended

completely.You rescinded your comment on the model in question,just as I had on my 500E post.The issue was dropped.
Look at the post,look at most of your posts regarding old school Mercedes v.s. new school.It is like a flood gate is opened between the 3 or 4 of you that feel the need to proclaim the W124 platform was and is the end all to be all.
I admire them also.They however don't walk on water.They have their issues and problems.And there should not be the need to insult other owners that prefer the newer(except the w211's Run) platforms
If you don't think you have assumed the leader of the pack on the 124 forum,I guess you should not be telling me to go anyplace.
I suggested spark plug types in reply to a specific model and the caveat to use no anti seize,If my reply had been directed to an owner of a flat head ford(on which I also moderate a forum)the suggestion would have been different.Immaturity was painted all over your reply and from a quick scan of your posts seems to be your forte,not the other way around.Either in my case or everyone else you insult and castigate if they don't capitulate to your opinion of the W124.
Wide body kit you speak of maturity?How much are you spending to make a classic W124 look like something mutated between a Testarossa and something really fugly.
Touché,buddy
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Old May 21, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Is that you

doing the extraction of the hair or is that RBY doing you the return favor?
I can't tell you both seem to look and mimic each others actions it is very hard to discern.

Did you 2 attend the same boys prep school?
You seem to be pretty comfortable with each other.
By the way.Nice Tat on your mothers ****.
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