E500 Hammer??? Doesn't exist, (right?)
09-26-2004, 12:00 PM
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E500 Hammer??? Doesn't exist, (right?)
So, Im looking for a 500E --- calling around....theres this guy on Autotrader, out of Chicago, www.thechicagotoystore.com -- he's advertising a 94, E500, Hammer. "1993 MERCEDES-BENZ 500E AMG "HAMMER" SILVER w/ BLACK int. 8 CYLINDER 141,846mi. AUTO, A REAL PIECE OF AUTOMOTIVE HISTORY! A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MERCEDES AND PORSCHE THIS IS THE PREDECESSOR TO TODAYS AMG POWERHOUSES. IMAGINE A 322HP 500SL MOTOR SHUEHORNED INTO A LIGHT E CLASS BODY WITH SUSPENTION AND BRAKES DEVELOPED BY PORSCHE! THIS IS $14,995 Stock No. U2488 Vin: WDBEA36E5PB840196 (GABOR ZSUPAN 312-842-8400)" 
I figured he was just misinformed, but called on it anyway. He had such an attitude with me, "I've been doing this for 15 years, kinda tone" - anyway I wasn't going to argue with him, nor was I interested in his E500 anyway, thats the last person to buy one from....
Just want to make sure Im not missing anything here....please confirm for my own sanity that the only hammer was the one in the 80's.
-Dan
I figured he was just misinformed, but called on it anyway. He had such an attitude with me, "I've been doing this for 15 years, kinda tone" - anyway I wasn't going to argue with him, nor was I interested in his E500 anyway, thats the last person to buy one from....
Just want to make sure Im not missing anything here....please confirm for my own sanity that the only hammer was the one in the 80's.
-Dan
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09-26-2004, 03:24 PM
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The 500E was Mercedes' factory produced (porsche and mb) anwser to the AMG Hammer. There is nothing AMG about the 500E, so calling it a 500E hammer is like calling it a 500E M3
Also isn't the Hammer originally a W126 and the baby hammer the W124?
What a turd, copping attitude as a BS'er.
Also isn't the Hammer originally a W126 and the baby hammer the W124?
What a turd, copping attitude as a BS'er.
09-26-2004, 03:36 PM
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Those guys shouldn't be allowed to sell the 500E. Sounds like a city car anyway, which is not the E I am looking for. Hey, do me a favor, keep an ear out for me if you hear of any worthwhile E's .
Thanks. Dan
Thanks. Dan
09-27-2004, 08:03 PM
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I will call him and tell him it is fake.
Originally Posted by NorthRiverMB
So, Im looking for a 500E --- calling around....theres this guy on Autotrader, out of Chicago, www.thechicagotoystore.com -- he's advertising a 94, E500, Hammer. "1993 MERCEDES-BENZ 500E AMG "HAMMER" SILVER w/ BLACK int. 8 CYLINDER 141,846mi. AUTO, A REAL PIECE OF AUTOMOTIVE HISTORY! A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MERCEDES AND PORSCHE THIS IS THE PREDECESSOR TO TODAYS AMG POWERHOUSES. IMAGINE A 322HP 500SL MOTOR SHUEHORNED INTO A LIGHT E CLASS BODY WITH SUSPENTION AND BRAKES DEVELOPED BY PORSCHE! THIS IS $14,995 Stock No. U2488 Vin: WDBEA36E5PB840196 (GABOR ZSUPAN 312-842-8400)"
I figured he was just misinformed, but called on it anyway. He had such an attitude with me, "I've been doing this for 15 years, kinda tone" - anyway I wasn't going to argue with him, nor was I interested in his E500 anyway, thats the last person to buy one from....
Just want to make sure Im not missing anything here....please confirm for my own sanity that the only hammer was the one in the 80's.
-Dan
I figured he was just misinformed, but called on it anyway. He had such an attitude with me, "I've been doing this for 15 years, kinda tone" - anyway I wasn't going to argue with him, nor was I interested in his E500 anyway, thats the last person to buy one from....
Just want to make sure Im not missing anything here....please confirm for my own sanity that the only hammer was the one in the 80's.
-Dan
Screw him. I don't care how long he has been in the business.
09-29-2004, 12:11 PM
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Hmmm...that car guy said the E is 'light'....he don't know what he's talkin' about...the 500E is close to 3900 lbs. Regular Es are no lightweights either...never were.
Now is a good time to buy a 500E...prices are as low as they probably will ever be.
Now is a good time to buy a 500E...prices are as low as they probably will ever be.
09-29-2004, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim's500E
Hmmm...that car guy said the E is 'light'....he don't know what he's talkin' about...the 500E is close to 3900 lbs. Regular Es are no lightweights either...never were.
Now is a good time to buy a 500E...prices are as low as they probably will ever be.
Now is a good time to buy a 500E...prices are as low as they probably will ever be.
All in all... the 500E is the nicest MB built since the early 80's IMHO. It had the most personality and it shows in how it has become a cult type car. The new cars might be faster than heck but they don’t have the personality or history the 500E had. A 1992 (and the lucky 1993's that were built by Porsche) will always be collector cars.
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Ok the guy who is advertising the 500E as a Hammer is just jumping on the band wagon and trying to sex up the car he has for sale.
The genuine Hammers were built in the mid to late 80's and were based on the Sedan's and Coupe, although I think that there may have been a Wagon converted as well.
The early Hammers (1985-1986) had 5.0 m117 V8's with AMG Quad cam heads which helped to lift power upto 320bhp (I have a genuine 5.0 sitting in my garage at the moment with a bust engine). The next incarnation was the 5.6 producing 350ish BHP and the final version was the 6.0 producing 380ish bhp.
The 5.6's and 6.0's were exported to the US in addition to being sold in Europe. The early 5.0's never made it to the US.
As far as is known only 20 cars were ever converted and are the genuine article....13 of these were CE coupes, the rest being Sedans and we think one Wagon.
Cost may have had something to do with it....a 6.0 cost $161,000 in 1989/90
...the engine alone cost as much as a new BMW M5 at the time!
Very few cars remain with the correct quad cam AMG engines.
In its day they were the fastest 4 door sedan in the world, with a 5.6 being clocked at 186mph by Road and Track magazine. Through the gears they were faster than a Ferrari Testarossa, Countach, and Porsche Turbo.
Mercedes were so impressed with the Hammers that they went on to develop the 500E with Porsche, which are excellent cars and not as fragile as the Hammers....but then again a Hammer is faster!
In addition to producing their own version, Mercedes also went on to buy AMG and the rest is history.
Sadly nowadays many people jump on the band-wagon and say that their car is a Hammer, when all it really has is an AMG body kit etc etc etc.
Just need to get mine back on the road now!
The genuine Hammers were built in the mid to late 80's and were based on the Sedan's and Coupe, although I think that there may have been a Wagon converted as well.
The early Hammers (1985-1986) had 5.0 m117 V8's with AMG Quad cam heads which helped to lift power upto 320bhp (I have a genuine 5.0 sitting in my garage at the moment with a bust engine). The next incarnation was the 5.6 producing 350ish BHP and the final version was the 6.0 producing 380ish bhp.
The 5.6's and 6.0's were exported to the US in addition to being sold in Europe. The early 5.0's never made it to the US.
As far as is known only 20 cars were ever converted and are the genuine article....13 of these were CE coupes, the rest being Sedans and we think one Wagon.
Cost may have had something to do with it....a 6.0 cost $161,000 in 1989/90
...the engine alone cost as much as a new BMW M5 at the time!Very few cars remain with the correct quad cam AMG engines.
In its day they were the fastest 4 door sedan in the world, with a 5.6 being clocked at 186mph by Road and Track magazine. Through the gears they were faster than a Ferrari Testarossa, Countach, and Porsche Turbo.
Mercedes were so impressed with the Hammers that they went on to develop the 500E with Porsche, which are excellent cars and not as fragile as the Hammers....but then again a Hammer is faster!
In addition to producing their own version, Mercedes also went on to buy AMG and the rest is history.
Sadly nowadays many people jump on the band-wagon and say that their car is a Hammer, when all it really has is an AMG body kit etc etc etc.
Just need to get mine back on the road now!
