Koni or Bilstein for my 97 E420?
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I'll soon be replacing my original shocks. Can anyone share their experiences with Koni or Bilstein for the W210? I've read the limited threads here on shocks but want more info. Both are priced around $380/4 at shox.com.
Also, I want to do the install myself. Is there a how-to guide somewhere?
Also, I want to do the install myself. Is there a how-to guide somewhere?
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I tried some Bilstein Sport shocks with H&R springs on my 2001 E320 and I thought they were too stiff for the car. The Bilstein HD might be a bit softer.
FYI: This guy is doing a Koni group buy. Email Mike, mkim_91@yahoo.com
Hope that was some help.
FYI: This guy is doing a Koni group buy. Email Mike, mkim_91@yahoo.com
Hope that was some help.
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Originally posted by nathanso
KWiK, You changed two things at the same time.. I wonder which caused your car to be too firm for your liking?
KWiK, You changed two things at the same time.. I wonder which caused your car to be too firm for your liking?
1. H&R springs, stock shocks - too bouncy
2. H&R springs, Bilstein Sport shocks - too firm
3. AMG springs & shocks & sways - just right
It's all a matter of taste. Some of us on this board think the Bilstein sports are too firm, others think they are too soft. Unfortunately, the only way to tell which you will like is to try them out.
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Two weeks ago I installed the H&R sport springs and bilstein sport shocks on my'99. The ride firmed up considerably from stock but is not harsh. Much much tighter though, no floaty feelings at high speeds on the highway that were previously there. Much much less body lean/roll in corners. I like it a lot, as do a lot of other forum members running the same combo.
The stock springs with bilstein hd's will be slightly firmer than stock, but not too much. Handling should improve marginally. Lifetime warranty on bilsteins is nice..
The stock springs with bilstein hd's will be slightly firmer than stock, but not too much. Handling should improve marginally. Lifetime warranty on bilsteins is nice..
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Lightman,
Thanks, that's good info. I read your thread on your modded E300 and saw your pics. I agree with you that the front looks too low.. have you changed that yet? My E420 has the same wheels so I'm very interested in what spring pad ends up working for you.
I may just install 4 Koni's and be done with it, though. If that stops thet bouncies I'll be happy.. for now.
Thanks, that's good info. I read your thread on your modded E300 and saw your pics. I agree with you that the front looks too low.. have you changed that yet? My E420 has the same wheels so I'm very interested in what spring pad ends up working for you.
I may just install 4 Koni's and be done with it, though. If that stops thet bouncies I'll be happy.. for now.
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I have since changed out the #1 front pads for #4 front pads and the clearance/look is much improved, as well as the ride, and camber. I'm happy with this setup and am going to leave it how it is..
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Originally posted by nathanso
... I may just install 4 Koni's and be done with it, though. If that stops thet bouncies I'll be happy.. for now.
... I may just install 4 Koni's and be done with it, though. If that stops thet bouncies I'll be happy.. for now.
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So what did you end up buying? How do you like it?
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I have not bought anything yet. My E420 was just rear-ended so I have more pressing matters at hand. Also waiting for the Koni GB folks to mount them up and report back.
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Adam, it doesn't sound like you have lowering springs. That has to be another factor in your shock decision. Some shocks like the Bilstein Sport are designed to go with lowering springs whereas I believe the Bilstein HD are designed for stock height springs.
Like Lightman, I have H&R with Bilstein Sport and I'm very happy with it.
Like Lightman, I have H&R with Bilstein Sport and I'm very happy with it.
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another factor to consider is that Koni shocks are manually adjustable while bilsteins are not. i assume maybe you already know this, just throwing it out there just in case.
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Yes, I talked to Koni and their shocks for the W210 are 3-way adjustable. They are not externally adjustable however, and require an R&R to dial in a new setting.
I'm leaning towards the Bilstein HD's, and I wonder if anyone can comment on the before/after effect of replacing OEM shocks with Bilstein HD's with all other suspension parts left stock.
I'm leaning towards the Bilstein HD's, and I wonder if anyone can comment on the before/after effect of replacing OEM shocks with Bilstein HD's with all other suspension parts left stock.
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Originally posted by nathanso
... I talked to Koni and their shocks for the W210 are 3-way adjustable. They are not externally adjustable however, and require an R&R to dial in a new setting...
... I talked to Koni and their shocks for the W210 are 3-way adjustable. They are not externally adjustable however, and require an R&R to dial in a new setting...