Isn't the E320 0-60?
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Okay.. just cleaned out the air filter, I still don't see a difference. How much does a full tune up cost and what does it usually include?
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Nate, did you not feel an extra "surge" of power at or just before 4000RPM? That's what I feel in my 1998 E320. I think it has something to do with the direct intake flaps opening at that RPM to increase high end power. In your case it looks like the opposite. I would so a service on your car.
Oh BTW, I raced my friends 2003 X5 4.4i again and dusted him in a roll and a stop. (That's when we start at pretty much the same time). I love it how I pull ahead in 3rh gear!![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Oh BTW, I raced my friends 2003 X5 4.4i again and dusted him in a roll and a stop. (That's when we start at pretty much the same time). I love it how I pull ahead in 3rh gear!
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If I remember right the old 3.2l v6 had peak TQ of 233lb from a tad over 2krpm all the way to 4,500rpm.
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Lets take a new approach to this... Are we sure this E320 does 0-60 in 6.9 seconds.. The new 06+ E350 only do it in 6.6 seconds and they have 270hp and 260lb tq along with a 7 speed gear box.
My new 328i has 230hp and 200lb tq 6 speed gear box and is rated at 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. And it weighs a good 300+lbs less than the E320.
My guess with the 3.2l v6 and 5 speed gear box you are looking at a 0-60 time in the mid 7's. Which explains why you are losing to audis since the ones you are racing are in the low 7's to 60.
My new 328i has 230hp and 200lb tq 6 speed gear box and is rated at 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. And it weighs a good 300+lbs less than the E320.
My guess with the 3.2l v6 and 5 speed gear box you are looking at a 0-60 time in the mid 7's. Which explains why you are losing to audis since the ones you are racing are in the low 7's to 60.
that mine goes 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. There are also many other sites that say 6.9 seconds. And I don't just loose to the audi, i get smoked by it lol.
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Hmm, but it still should move preety quick after 4500 rpm even though most of the torque is gone. Because 10 seconds 0-60 is just sad lol. What does a full tune up consist of and how much do they cost? What should I ask a shop for. Should I ask them individually for new spark plugs, air filter, etc.?
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I had the same motor in my ML.. And in the basically 1klb heavier than the ML would do 0-60 in about 9 seconds. Taking 1k lbs off should put you in the mid 7's. Honestly I think the 0-60 rating for your car is just wrong..
I found on edmunds 1 article that says 0-60 for the wagon is 7.5 seconds.
On another review the car they have a 0-60 listed in 8.2 seconds with a 16.5 second 1/4 mile. Thats for the 221 hp 232lb tq 3.2V6 SOCH aka your motor. They list a curb weight of 3,868 lbs
With times all over the place from 6.9 seconds-8.2 seconds it seems crazy.. but again my best guess would say based on the power and the weight and having driven 2 cars with this motor you are looking at mid 7's.
As for spark plugs you should easily be abel to do this yourself. Along with the filter that should be very simple take off 4 clips put a new one in. If you cleaned your MAF sensor the spark plugs and filter should be a walk in the park.
Just for the heck of it I put the E320 data into a drag time calculator and its saying you should run a 15 second 1/4 mile.
I also found a 0-60 calculator. It says the power to weight ratio is .058 with an estimated 0-60 mph time in 7.58 seconds.
I ran my BMW 328i in the same calculator for 0-60 and it came out with 6.76 which is close to the BMW rated 6.9 which manufacture rating is usually very conservative.
I also ran my old car which was an M3 in the calculator and it was dead on for manufacture rating. I also ran my old ML in the calculator again dead on.
I found on edmunds 1 article that says 0-60 for the wagon is 7.5 seconds.
On another review the car they have a 0-60 listed in 8.2 seconds with a 16.5 second 1/4 mile. Thats for the 221 hp 232lb tq 3.2V6 SOCH aka your motor. They list a curb weight of 3,868 lbs
With times all over the place from 6.9 seconds-8.2 seconds it seems crazy.. but again my best guess would say based on the power and the weight and having driven 2 cars with this motor you are looking at mid 7's.
As for spark plugs you should easily be abel to do this yourself. Along with the filter that should be very simple take off 4 clips put a new one in. If you cleaned your MAF sensor the spark plugs and filter should be a walk in the park.
Just for the heck of it I put the E320 data into a drag time calculator and its saying you should run a 15 second 1/4 mile.
I also found a 0-60 calculator. It says the power to weight ratio is .058 with an estimated 0-60 mph time in 7.58 seconds.
I ran my BMW 328i in the same calculator for 0-60 and it came out with 6.76 which is close to the BMW rated 6.9 which manufacture rating is usually very conservative.
I also ran my old car which was an M3 in the calculator and it was dead on for manufacture rating. I also ran my old ML in the calculator again dead on.
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You also need to take into consideration the age of your ride compared to one a couple years old and if your constantly racing or ******* it out there is wear and tear.
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I don't think it's age of the motor. Nate has something we need CSI to diagnose. Power loss at 4k RPM and above (and it is power loss) usually means a restriction, so it may be air in, air out, or fuel in. Fuel in may be a weak fuel pump. Air in could be a blocked intake. Air out could be Eddie Murphy stuffing a banana in your tailpipe (sorry, old movie reference)
Anybody want to expand on this?
Anybody want to expand on this?
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Thanks Z06. Tomorrow i'm going into mercedes and having all of my spark plugs changed along with new brake pads. Hopefully, that is the problem and all will be resolved. I will give feedback within the next 2 days, thank you all once again.
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Okay, I talked to Mercedes. The initiall diagnose was correct. They told me that the spark plugs were fine, but the MAF went bad. I decided that I was just going to install one myself. I'll let you guys know once I get the new MAF bought and installed.
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Does anyone know if the HP and tourque is rated by Mercedes at the real wheel, or at the flywheel? Also, my stock '00 E320 is the fastest E I've ever owned - had a 90, 94, 95, 97 and now '00 (between my wife and I...). I was test driving a '87 944 Turbo the other night, w/5-sp, and was very disapointed
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there's more - I actually asked the dealer selling the Porsche if he had left the emergency brake on or something. I told him my 320 would leave the 955 in the dust. He got really mad and asked me if I had the title to my car. I should've raced the guy for pink slips.
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I do have a question though - maybe someone has else has experienced it.... Most of the time, my E starts normally. Every once in a while though, it won't start up. It never happens if the car has sat long enough to cool down completely - and I can't say it is directly related to being at normal operating temps. When I turn the key, the starter always engages, and turns the motor. Just every once in a while, usually in embarassing locations, it won't start. I have no indicator lights coming on either. Any ideas?
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Does anyone know if the HP and tourque is rated by Mercedes at the real wheel, or at the flywheel? Also, my stock '00 E320 is the fastest E I've ever owned - had a 90, 94, 95, 97 and now '00 (between my wife and I...). I was test driving a '87 944 Turbo the other night, w/5-sp, and was very disapointed
The logic I've read is that ground ratings open the manufacturer up to claims if someone gets a dyno reading that is at all lower than stated. Then again, gas mileage claims are rarely true and they get away with that.
However, AMG ratings are known to be understated for insurance reasons. Perhaps the 320 has a bit more power than advertised.
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The stock 951 only put out 220 ponies. I had one years ago(hence the j944) and be it a fast ride take in account the age and turbo motor being worn out.
They handle like on rails though!
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All I know is that my E320 has 91k on it and I timed 0-60mph just over 7seconds.
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I do have a question though - maybe someone has else has experienced it.... Most of the time, my E starts normally. Every once in a while though, it won't start up. It never happens if the car has sat long enough to cool down completely - and I can't say it is directly related to being at normal operating temps. When I turn the key, the starter always engages, and turns the motor. Just every once in a while, usually in embarassing locations, it won't start. I have no indicator lights coming on either. Any ideas?
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Performance: Until the introduction of the E55 AMG sedan in 1999, the E430 was the most powerful W210 Mercedes E-Class sedan in production. Its 4.3 liter V-8 engine cranks out 275 horsepower and 295 ft-lbs of torque over a plateau of 3000-4000 RPM, giving it a 0-60 MPH time of 6.2 seconds and a top speed well above its electronically limited speed of 130 miles per hour.
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So if the E430 has a 0-60 of 6.2 then the E320 has got to be slower...
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ew.html?cat=27
So if the E430 has a 0-60 of 6.2 then the E320 has got to be slower...
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Its the truth, I raced TommyGunn in his E320, I had perfect level ground to launch from, I have a spec stage II clutch + carbon fibre intake + forge 007 DV.
By 40 it was pretty much done ( when I shifted into 2nd ) his car is definitley much quicker to 60 than the stats say. At 60 he was up by 2 and by 110 it was about 6 lengths, it was pretty bad ownage on me, come january im having my car chipped yet again =) Then its over.
By 40 it was pretty much done ( when I shifted into 2nd ) his car is definitley much quicker to 60 than the stats say. At 60 he was up by 2 and by 110 it was about 6 lengths, it was pretty bad ownage on me, come january im having my car chipped yet again =) Then its over.
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I do have a question though - maybe someone has else has experienced it.... Most of the time, my E starts normally. Every once in a while though, it won't start up. It never happens if the car has sat long enough to cool down completely - and I can't say it is directly related to being at normal operating temps. When I turn the key, the starter always engages, and turns the motor. Just every once in a while, usually in embarassing locations, it won't start. I have no indicator lights coming on either. Any ideas?
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I know the Brabus tuned V6 motor is different by pistons, stroke and cams, however I hit the speed governor at 6500rpm and it pulls hard right to the limiter. It does feel quicker than 7.8 to 60. It was quicker still using a smaller diameter wheel than the 18s it came with due to unsprung weight difference. Not sure of actual time though. 1st gear goes past in a blink. The first gear ratio must be pretty short. It is the same tranny, 722.6, for all the motor applications and it is slow to shift by comparison to newer models. The rear axle ratio in the wagon is 3.07 versus, I believe, 2.82 for all the sedans. That is according to the MB sales brochure for 2002 model year. The Brabus models used the same ratios.
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I do have a question though - maybe someone has else has experienced it.... Most of the time, my E starts normally. Every once in a while though, it won't start up. It never happens if the car has sat long enough to cool down completely - and I can't say it is directly related to being at normal operating temps. When I turn the key, the starter always engages, and turns the motor. Just every once in a while, usually in embarassing locations, it won't start. I have no indicator lights coming on either. Any ideas?