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Old 01-20-2007 | 06:45 PM
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onboard computer problem, WTF

So when I went to take a look at this car, I was able to see the mileage remaining until service B on the FSS system.

Now pushing the up and down buttons on the steering wheel (with the display at overall mileage) does absolutely nothing.

I also can not see my miles remaining or oil level indicator.

It just toggles between miles since start, and miles since reset.

I know for a fact that I saw it during the test drive, and now nothing works.

How the hell could this turn to ****?

thanks for any help, pretty frustrated.
Old 01-20-2007 | 07:27 PM
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You are just flipping thru the modes on that one page, try the page buttons till you get to the correct one, then the mode buttons. They are the buttons on the same side of the wheel next to the mode buttons. You will find it.
Old 01-20-2007 | 07:34 PM
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No, it flat out doesn't work.
Heres what works and what doesn't.

1. Overall mileage and trip odometer. No FSS info, or oil level indicator
2. I get the Nav ready and telephone ready pages
3. I get the miles since start and miles since reset. No fuel range at all.
4. No Audio information whatsoever (I have nav if that matters)


Like I said, im 100% sure that I at least got the FSS information when I test drove the car. I never looked at the other stuff.

I have pushed every button there is to push, and im freaking pissed.

All this fancy crap, and none of it works.

I can't imagine that just some of these things don't work. its sort of strange, don't you think?

Anybody have any ideas? Im damn close to returning this thing and getting my audi back (3 day guarantee)
Old 01-20-2007 | 07:43 PM
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What year and model is it?? I have never heard of this before and its certainly not a common problem. Are you certain you had that info before?? Have you tried the page up and page down buttons?? All the buttons you need to do this are on the left side of the wheel.
Old 01-20-2007 | 08:14 PM
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Im 1000% certain that the FSS info was there. The rest I never delved into.
I have absolutely tried the page up and down buttons.

Im sorry if im coming off as pissy, but when your new acquisition turns into a POS within 500 miles of owning it, you get kinda mad.

I appreciate the help.
Old 01-20-2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Oliverk
2000 E430 4matic, with 48k miles.

Im 1000% certain that the FSS info was there. The rest I never delved into.
I have absolutely tried the page up and down buttons.

Im sorry if im coming off as pissy, but when your new acquisition turns into a POS within 500 miles of owning it, you get kinda mad.

I appreciate the help.
You are coming off a bit pissy but I understand your frustration. You must realize that you bought a 7 year old car with close to 50000 miles and stuff can happen. I assume you did not buy from an MB dealer and the car was not a certified used car by MB. Your problem could be as simple as a bad switch in the wheel and its really a minor problem that does not presently effect the functionality of the car. Cool off and talk to the sellers on Mon and see what they will do for you. I had my 01 W210 E Class from oct 00 till Feb 05 and it was an excellent car. I traded for a new 05 which is also excellent. If the seller won't do anything for you and you are able to return the car do so if thats what you want to do. You can also go to a dealer and spend a few bucks and get it fixed. Did you have the car checked out by a dealer or shop?? I believe thats the way to go if you don't buy new or Certified used.
Old 01-20-2007 | 09:26 PM
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just a thought.... some parts of the menu are not seen until you come to a stop.
this prevents you from trying to monkey with stuff while you should be focusing
your attention on the road. see if that helps.

(what i just did)

while stopped
get display with odometer
press UP arrow (on upper/left cluster)

display shows # miles until next service

nuther thought: do you have/need owner's manual?

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Old 01-20-2007 | 11:34 PM
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i know this might sound dumb...but just trying to help

some tips

i dont know if ur doing this with the key in or out of the ignition...start the engine and start browsing through the module


also


this may help refresh/reset the problem

1.turn the car off
2. pump the brake until it wont go down anymore...kepp pushing on it until it locks
3.hold the R button for 30 seconds...

turn car on...

hold r button again for 30 seconds..


it might help, try it when u get some time

good luck
Old 01-21-2007 | 12:47 AM
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I too have a '00 = and I can access all the menu functions while car is on, even the check oil level feature. If it is a feature that cannot be performed while car is running (such as checking oil level) it will tell me so.
Old 01-21-2007 | 10:09 AM
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Thanks for the help folks.

I bought the car at a BMW dealer that also has an MB dealer in its chain. They took it to the mb dealer to have it looked over. They never disclosed that the CD changer didn't work, or that the display was missing a ton of stuff.

When I test drove it, the FSS was there. As far as I know, all they did was look it over, which is why im so confused as to why its no longer there.

Raymond, if you mean the buttons next to the instrument cluster, on my car they control the brightness of the display.

All of my checking was done in the garage. I tried both engine on and off. I actually saw all this stuff in the owners manual, and tried to find it on the car, and viola, nothing.

MB>BMW, I'll try that.

Its a shame, because I really like the car otherwise. I know that you will run into some problems with any used car, but I didn't expect to have to put $4k into it within the first 500 miles.

Im sure the dealer would have a field day with the display.($$$$)
Old 01-21-2007 | 12:56 PM
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Well I tried mb>bmw's technique and still does nothing.

Is there anything that needs to be redone after you disconnect the battery?

The windows all work on the express function.

its so strange that just some of the things would not work.
Old 01-21-2007 | 07:00 PM
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go back to the dealer and demand that they fix it...that should be something simple for them...theyll hook it to the computer and just refresh the system....they better not charge u either(u just bought the car)....this isnt something u could possibly mess up...sounds like they sold it to u without checking it out better

i hope it works out...

they thing i told u to do was advised to me by a MB service tech-head foreman...and if that ddint help...u better go to the stealership

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