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just a quick idea of prices
Just a few parts (don't really have time to pull up all my parts as i'm working)
ME2601A1 Fender rh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601A2 Fender lh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601B1 Fender rh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601B2 Fender lh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601C1 Fender rh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601C2 Fender lh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601D1 Fender rh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2601D2 Fender lh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2605A0 Hood (86-93) 98.50
ME2605B0 Hood (94-95) 157.50
ME2605C0 Hood (96-99) 113.50
ME2605DA Hood (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) 188.50
ME2605EA Hood (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 287.50
ME2610A0 Grille (86-95) 19.95
ME2610B0 Grille Assembly (96-99) 37.75
ME2610C0 Grille Assembly (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) with Avantgarde package 28.75
ME2601A1 Fender rh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601A2 Fender lh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601B1 Fender rh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601B2 Fender lh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601C1 Fender rh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601C2 Fender lh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601D1 Fender rh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2601D2 Fender lh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2605A0 Hood (86-93) 98.50
ME2605B0 Hood (94-95) 157.50
ME2605C0 Hood (96-99) 113.50
ME2605DA Hood (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) 188.50
ME2605EA Hood (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 287.50
ME2610A0 Grille (86-95) 19.95
ME2610B0 Grille Assembly (96-99) 37.75
ME2610C0 Grille Assembly (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) with Avantgarde package 28.75
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I own a 1999 W210 Mercedes.
Just a few parts (don't really have time to pull up all my parts as i'm working)
ME2601A1 Fender rh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601A2 Fender lh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601B1 Fender rh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601B2 Fender lh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601C1 Fender rh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601C2 Fender lh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601D1 Fender rh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2601D2 Fender lh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2605A0 Hood (86-93) 98.50
ME2605B0 Hood (94-95) 157.50
ME2605C0 Hood (96-99) 113.50
ME2605DA Hood (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) 188.50
ME2605EA Hood (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 287.50
ME2610A0 Grille (86-95) 19.95
ME2610B0 Grille Assembly (96-99) 37.75
ME2610C0 Grille Assembly (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) with Avantgarde package 28.75
ME2601A1 Fender rh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601A2 Fender lh (86-95) 44.75
ME2601B1 Fender rh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601B2 Fender lh (96-99) 54.75
ME2601C1 Fender rh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601C2 Fender lh (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) without Sport 119.50
ME2601D1 Fender rh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2601D2 Fender lh (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 125.50
ME2605A0 Hood (86-93) 98.50
ME2605B0 Hood (94-95) 157.50
ME2605C0 Hood (96-99) 113.50
ME2605DA Hood (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) 188.50
ME2605EA Hood (03-07 Sedan)(04-07 Wagon) 287.50
ME2610A0 Grille (86-95) 19.95
ME2610B0 Grille Assembly (96-99) 37.75
ME2610C0 Grille Assembly (00-02 Sedan)(00-03 Wagon) with Avantgarde package 28.75
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As for the stock body parts, i only have to pay for paint. Dont have to pay for any prep, bodywork, nothing, just the paint and clear. Again next time read before you post
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I own a 1999 W210 Mercedes.
Do you really expect me to pull up every part i plan on buying and posting up? All other aftermarket parts are still much cheaper and if you do research you can get stuff pretty cheap. Also, the car is going to remain pretty much stock except for a couple of add-ons (bumper lights, roof spoiler). Please read my posts and stop cluttering up a thread with nonsense as i have already provided some prices on things that would cost the public much more.
As for the stock body parts, i only have to pay for paint. Dont have to pay for any prep, bodywork, nothing, just the paint and clear. Again next time read before you post
As for the stock body parts, i only have to pay for paint. Dont have to pay for any prep, bodywork, nothing, just the paint and clear. Again next time read before you post
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"Couple" of Add-Ons are listed below...
-front end (e55)face lift---------------------------------------------$1,000
-updated side skirts and rear bumper---------------------------------^^^^
-dual exhaust (just like the white one axl something on here)-----------$500
-hid headlights + fogs (no bright blue or anything ricey)----------------$400
-roof spoiler----------------------------------------------------------$300
-flat hood badge------------------------------------------------------$40
-tint windows, taillights-----------------------------------------------$320
-updated mirros------------------------------------------------------$150
-clear bumper lights--------------------------------------------------$40
-respraying entire car silver & respraying roof black (like the w211)-----$1000
-find the chrome monoblocks in 19" staggered but will settle for silver--$1,900
-nice tires with some nice meats in the back---------------------------^^^
-lower the car (this is where i need help)------------------------------$600
haha
#31
I will put it as simple as I can for you as I can see you are having a hard time understanding.
Exterior of the body (updated look including mirrors, sides skirts, bumpers, grill, hood, fenders, flat badge, roof spoiler, bumper lights = $1000 (again you can debate this but I have gone over prices several times and have came to this otherwise i would not have posted on a public forum for people to prove me wrong.
Wheels & tires (not sure if i can find authentic AMG wheels for the car)(including tires, again this is priced out on knock offs but it is a package and the wheels i want) = $1000.
Tint = $50 again read that i only have to buy the film and am not paying for installation (having it put on in case you can't comprehend that).
Painting the entire car (again in case you can't read, I only have to pay for paint & clear) = $350 tops.
Exhaust, this is where i may run into some money but i only have to pay for the muffler and piping (no labor, no install, no bending, nothing) = $300
Hid's (i know many kits that people have been using kits that i am looking at and compared to factory (audi/bmw/mercedes)= $200 for both high and low.
Thats a grand total of $2900.00 (this price does not include the drop which i can get done for much cheaper then your price quoted simply because i buy the parts i need and have them put in free of charge)
So roughly $3500 max including if i run into problems. Again please don't clutter my thread with anymore of your garbage.
Thanks
Exterior of the body (updated look including mirrors, sides skirts, bumpers, grill, hood, fenders, flat badge, roof spoiler, bumper lights = $1000 (again you can debate this but I have gone over prices several times and have came to this otherwise i would not have posted on a public forum for people to prove me wrong.
Wheels & tires (not sure if i can find authentic AMG wheels for the car)(including tires, again this is priced out on knock offs but it is a package and the wheels i want) = $1000.
Tint = $50 again read that i only have to buy the film and am not paying for installation (having it put on in case you can't comprehend that).
Painting the entire car (again in case you can't read, I only have to pay for paint & clear) = $350 tops.
Exhaust, this is where i may run into some money but i only have to pay for the muffler and piping (no labor, no install, no bending, nothing) = $300
Hid's (i know many kits that people have been using kits that i am looking at and compared to factory (audi/bmw/mercedes)= $200 for both high and low.
Thats a grand total of $2900.00 (this price does not include the drop which i can get done for much cheaper then your price quoted simply because i buy the parts i need and have them put in free of charge)
So roughly $3500 max including if i run into problems. Again please don't clutter my thread with anymore of your garbage.
Thanks
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BJAFARI93 - great that you have access to parts and discount. i think
you should do whatever (within your means) makes you smile when you
drive that car. heck, 80% of what I put into my car will not even come
close to being recoverable upon resale. I bought my 99 E320 4 yrs ago
for $22k and it has easily depreciated to 1/2 that now. but each time i
take it out of the garage.....I smile and think, "...ah *gots* to git me
wunna these!" and for a moment, everything is right in the world
as I cruise and have fun doing it.
you should do whatever (within your means) makes you smile when you
drive that car. heck, 80% of what I put into my car will not even come
close to being recoverable upon resale. I bought my 99 E320 4 yrs ago
for $22k and it has easily depreciated to 1/2 that now. but each time i
take it out of the garage.....I smile and think, "...ah *gots* to git me
wunna these!" and for a moment, everything is right in the world
as I cruise and have fun doing it.
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I own a 1999 W210 Mercedes.
I will put it as simple as I can for you as I can see you are having a hard time understanding.
Exterior of the body (updated look including mirrors, sides skirts, bumpers, grill, hood, fenders, flat badge, roof spoiler, bumper lights = $1000 (again you can debate this but I have gone over prices several times and have came to this otherwise i would not have posted on a public forum for people to prove me wrong.
Wheels & tires (not sure if i can find authentic AMG wheels for the car)(including tires, again this is priced out on knock offs but it is a package and the wheels i want) = $1000.
Tint = $50 again read that i only have to buy the film and am not paying for installation (having it put on in case you can't comprehend that).
Painting the entire car (again in case you can't read, I only have to pay for paint & clear) = $350 tops.
Exhaust, this is where i may run into some money but i only have to pay for the muffler and piping (no labor, no install, no bending, nothing) = $300
Hid's (i know many kits that people have been using kits that i am looking at and compared to factory (audi/bmw/mercedes)= $200 for both high and low.
Thats a grand total of $2900.00 (this price does not include the drop which i can get done for much cheaper then your price quoted simply because i buy the parts i need and have them put in free of charge)
So roughly $3500 max including if i run into problems. Again please don't clutter my thread with anymore of your garbage.
Thanks
Exterior of the body (updated look including mirrors, sides skirts, bumpers, grill, hood, fenders, flat badge, roof spoiler, bumper lights = $1000 (again you can debate this but I have gone over prices several times and have came to this otherwise i would not have posted on a public forum for people to prove me wrong.
Wheels & tires (not sure if i can find authentic AMG wheels for the car)(including tires, again this is priced out on knock offs but it is a package and the wheels i want) = $1000.
Tint = $50 again read that i only have to buy the film and am not paying for installation (having it put on in case you can't comprehend that).
Painting the entire car (again in case you can't read, I only have to pay for paint & clear) = $350 tops.
Exhaust, this is where i may run into some money but i only have to pay for the muffler and piping (no labor, no install, no bending, nothing) = $300
Hid's (i know many kits that people have been using kits that i am looking at and compared to factory (audi/bmw/mercedes)= $200 for both high and low.
Thats a grand total of $2900.00 (this price does not include the drop which i can get done for much cheaper then your price quoted simply because i buy the parts i need and have them put in free of charge)
So roughly $3500 max including if i run into problems. Again please don't clutter my thread with anymore of your garbage.
Thanks
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Raymond- thank you and i completely agree with you.
As for getting my money back if i can sell this car after I do everything to it for $7500 then ill still be making money.
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The lamp failure system is exactly based on wattage which translates to resistance or load or whatever you wanna call it. The failure is triggered when there is no load or not enough load on the system (meaning the light bulb is burnt out = resistance goes up too high since there is no connectivity between + and -). That is the reason a 35 watt HID system would trigger the failure. a 35 watt system has more resistance than a 55 watt load (therefore it draws less power) while being more efficient than halogen it tricks the system into lamp failure because of the higher resistance, which is why you or the factory adds a second resistor in parallel with the HID to lower the total resistance measured by the system or change the cars computer settings to HID lights.
A standard halogen bulb is rated at 55 watts which is the same power draw as a 55 watt HID system. No difference in power draw. The ONLY concern for me was the power draw when igniting the bulbs (HIDs are known to draw more power when bulb is igniting to get an arc going). This has not caused any fuse blowing or any electrical problems in my car. it seems it's brief enough not to cause any problems (and we know the cars that come with factory HIDs use the same wiring so I don't know why this would cause an issue at all). it is only sustained high power draw that damages wires which is not the case here. So no fuse blowing = safe. There are probably HID kits that will blow the fuse when igniting but that's not the one I recommended here. so there's your electrical concern.
As far as heat, a halogen bulb produces way more heat than it does light (waste of electrical energy) which is why the HID was made for cars and why HID produces more light at lower wattage. lower wattage than halogen + more light = less heat. so going to a 55 watt HID at 3 to 4 times the light output of a halogen bulb means less heat generated at the same power draw.
You call it ill adviced based on the success of a single generic application, I call it math, understanding of electricity, and logic. Basically knowledge, which I wouldn't go around calling people comments BS without knowing something first.
The flaw in this assessment is that the lamp failure warning system is not based
on bulb wattage or ballast wattage. What is being suggested is to increase by 30% the power through an HID bulb nominally rated for 35 watts. Sure, it will
burn brighter. But it will also burn much hotter (ºF) than designed, potentially
damaging the bulb holder and/or reflector. Unless you're certain that your
particular application can withstand this added power consumption (ergo, heat)
you're taking a big risk. MB 210 factory wiring isn't known for being overbuilt.
Experience would caution that such power enhancements incorporate a well designed (and fuse protected) relay subharness. Bluntly put, your blanket
recommendation is anecdotal, based on the success of a single, generic
application, and thus, ill advised.
on bulb wattage or ballast wattage. What is being suggested is to increase by 30% the power through an HID bulb nominally rated for 35 watts. Sure, it will
burn brighter. But it will also burn much hotter (ºF) than designed, potentially
damaging the bulb holder and/or reflector. Unless you're certain that your
particular application can withstand this added power consumption (ergo, heat)
you're taking a big risk. MB 210 factory wiring isn't known for being overbuilt.
Experience would caution that such power enhancements incorporate a well designed (and fuse protected) relay subharness. Bluntly put, your blanket
recommendation is anecdotal, based on the success of a single, generic
application, and thus, ill advised.
A standard halogen bulb is rated at 55 watts which is the same power draw as a 55 watt HID system. No difference in power draw. The ONLY concern for me was the power draw when igniting the bulbs (HIDs are known to draw more power when bulb is igniting to get an arc going). This has not caused any fuse blowing or any electrical problems in my car. it seems it's brief enough not to cause any problems (and we know the cars that come with factory HIDs use the same wiring so I don't know why this would cause an issue at all). it is only sustained high power draw that damages wires which is not the case here. So no fuse blowing = safe. There are probably HID kits that will blow the fuse when igniting but that's not the one I recommended here. so there's your electrical concern.
As far as heat, a halogen bulb produces way more heat than it does light (waste of electrical energy) which is why the HID was made for cars and why HID produces more light at lower wattage. lower wattage than halogen + more light = less heat. so going to a 55 watt HID at 3 to 4 times the light output of a halogen bulb means less heat generated at the same power draw.
You call it ill adviced based on the success of a single generic application, I call it math, understanding of electricity, and logic. Basically knowledge, which I wouldn't go around calling people comments BS without knowing something first.
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raymond g-
As far as heat, a halogen bulb produces way more heat than it does light (waste of electrical energy) which is why the HID was made for cars and why HID produces more light at lower wattage. lower wattage than halogen + more light = less heat. so going to a 55 watt HID at 3 to 4 times the light output of a halogen bulb means less heat generated at the same power draw.
first.
As far as heat, a halogen bulb produces way more heat than it does light (waste of electrical energy) which is why the HID was made for cars and why HID produces more light at lower wattage. lower wattage than halogen + more light = less heat. so going to a 55 watt HID at 3 to 4 times the light output of a halogen bulb means less heat generated at the same power draw.
first.
#38
You're kidding right???? if HID produces more heat then how do you explain that a 35 watt HID puts out more light than a 55 watt halogen? Halogen is not as bright because it wastes so much power generating heat instead of light. A 35 watt HID uses less energy and outputs more light. That means less of the energy consumed is converted to heat. I can't even believe this is an argument here. If you're talking about the color temperature that has nothing to do with heat or actual temperature as you may think.
Just do a search online and you will see that one of the greatest advantages of HID is their efficiency by producing less heat.
Just do a search online and you will see that one of the greatest advantages of HID is their efficiency by producing less heat.
#41
That's exactly what I plan to do. I already had the front black panel colormatched when i had my bumper repainted.
#42
sell the car and get something new with less miles
sell it.......That was idea I got when I saw your thread...but now after driving so many BENZes around one thing I can say is the best car production and quality mechanical design as well electrical is between years 1996 and 2000 everything before that and after is not good.
before 1996 was issues on mechanical side
after 2000 issues with electronic (**** load of sensors)
...plc program was the best for automated production in that gap of 4 years
and most of the things you can do it yourself with obd2 help just in case
other things style, design ,everything was original ,now these days all of it just some kind replica or clone design.
we are still talking about fossil fuel cars and you are spending money on better look why not spend money on something better like make your engine green (hybrid ) or run on water (hho gas) protect enviroment or find how to fight with rust on the body .....etc.
....pimp my ride is easy to make ....
that is what i call mods.....
regards
before 1996 was issues on mechanical side
after 2000 issues with electronic (**** load of sensors)
...plc program was the best for automated production in that gap of 4 years
and most of the things you can do it yourself with obd2 help just in case
other things style, design ,everything was original ,now these days all of it just some kind replica or clone design.
we are still talking about fossil fuel cars and you are spending money on better look why not spend money on something better like make your engine green (hybrid ) or run on water (hho gas) protect enviroment or find how to fight with rust on the body .....etc.
....pimp my ride is easy to make ....
that is what i call mods.....
regards
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If it was me I wouldnt try and do a facelift on the 420. I would go get one of the thousand or so bodykits available for our cars. Alot of them look better than the facelifted w210. And it would be cheaper too.
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It's your car but I fail to see the intelligence behind tinting ones tail, brake or side marker lights. Does it make the car look that much cooler to the 40 ton semi about to rear end you on a rainy night? Mercedes has spent $illions on safety research and design only to have someone dim a tail light on purpose.
Jeesh. $5.00 worth of plastic film and you are no longer driving one of the safest cars on the planet.
Jeesh. $5.00 worth of plastic film and you are no longer driving one of the safest cars on the planet.
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Im sorry i must have had a brain fart or something. idk why i said that i know that hid's do burn cooler my bad.
Im doing what you want to do minus the whole facelift job. My car looks like a newer mercedes. NO one believes its 11 years old. Interior and exterior in great shape and milege is now at 99808. I just did some things to make it more modern looking like the projectors, lights, and the wheels. Now Since you work at a shop and can get parts for cheap i can see why you want to do it. I personally find it pointless to do but everyone has their own opinion. Because wouldnt it be kind of hard to get the front bumper to fit correctly? after all the new bumpers are not made for our pre-facelift cars. You could cut your budget alot if you dont do the facelift and put your money in to something else thats really cool.
For the record, i did what i did to my car cause its not worth selling, runs great, and looks great, and will for a while. Im not looking to sell it soon so now I have a great car that I love and it looks better than ever before!
Im doing what you want to do minus the whole facelift job. My car looks like a newer mercedes. NO one believes its 11 years old. Interior and exterior in great shape and milege is now at 99808. I just did some things to make it more modern looking like the projectors, lights, and the wheels. Now Since you work at a shop and can get parts for cheap i can see why you want to do it. I personally find it pointless to do but everyone has their own opinion. Because wouldnt it be kind of hard to get the front bumper to fit correctly? after all the new bumpers are not made for our pre-facelift cars. You could cut your budget alot if you dont do the facelift and put your money in to something else thats really cool.
For the record, i did what i did to my car cause its not worth selling, runs great, and looks great, and will for a while. Im not looking to sell it soon so now I have a great car that I love and it looks better than ever before!
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Not sure yet on the face-lift. After seeing the newer e55's (w210's) I like my front more but i like the side skirts and rear bumper.
Either way there will be a lot of things done to update the look, performance, and creature comforts of this car. Come May of 09 I will post pics. As of rite now I am doing almost everything there is to do for maintenance (I mean everything) and collecting parts to begin the journey. In Feb/March it will be going into the body shop to get all dings, dents, rust, scratches, and paint fixed.
To the people who say sell it, please understand I do not want a car payment (I am a real estate broker and rather not in this economy), my insurance is dirt cheap on this car ($800 a year full coverage), what I paid for the car + all money put in will still be under selling price (way under book), and I like to design/build a car that suits me rather than drive a dime a dozen car (read Unique).
Thanks guys for all the ideas, support, negatives, and info. Hopefully you guys will like my ideas come May.
Either way there will be a lot of things done to update the look, performance, and creature comforts of this car. Come May of 09 I will post pics. As of rite now I am doing almost everything there is to do for maintenance (I mean everything) and collecting parts to begin the journey. In Feb/March it will be going into the body shop to get all dings, dents, rust, scratches, and paint fixed.
To the people who say sell it, please understand I do not want a car payment (I am a real estate broker and rather not in this economy), my insurance is dirt cheap on this car ($800 a year full coverage), what I paid for the car + all money put in will still be under selling price (way under book), and I like to design/build a car that suits me rather than drive a dime a dozen car (read Unique).
Thanks guys for all the ideas, support, negatives, and info. Hopefully you guys will like my ideas come May.
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Well, it's been over six months with no update on this project, so who knows. If anyone clicks the link in my sig file, you can see what it would actually cost for the sum total of raw parts. I'll skip labor and paint completely. unpainted AMG front bumper cover alone is around $700.
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maybe get the pre-facelift e55/sport package body kit. That would work for you cause you do not need to do extensive modifications like get new fenders and hoods and grills. It would look good and be a little less expensive. Look into that!
EDIT: Looked at your pic, you do have the sport package so ill leave it up to you for what you want to do.
EDIT: Looked at your pic, you do have the sport package so ill leave it up to you for what you want to do.
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Well, it's been over six months with no update on this project, so who knows. If anyone clicks the link in my sig file, you can see what it would actually cost for the sum total of raw parts. I'll skip labor and paint completely. unpainted AMG front bumper cover alone is around $700.
If you scroll back to the beginning of this thread you would have read the post where i stated I only work 6 months of the year and am doing this over the winter (this year). Have already done maintenance items (needed and for future) bought wheels and mounted snows on stock amg's, that way the car looks good all year.
If you were kind enough to keep reading my posts it states that i will be using an aftermarket supplier for my parts (very close to factory finish but not factory & yes i have used them before on many cars including Mercedes/Bmw and fitment was top notch). The parts are very reasonably priced and for the price of your 1 bumper i can prob get close to all of my parts.
For everyone else this car WILL be done by May of 2009. It will not be anything to crazy but I will be changing areas based on what I think a Sport package/e55 should have came with. Nothing ricey/corny but luxury with a hint of fast (best words i can use).
Oh and thank you for all of diy's in this section and the original posters of them. I have been doing everything
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