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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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What do i need to update look?

I want to convert my car to the updated look of the e55 (2000 + body, whole car not just front). I know i need the front bumper and side skirts. But looking at the car i think i may need alot more such as hood, fenders, grill, lights? Im going to update the body to new style and do a bunch of other cosmetics (tint, new wheels, roof spoiler, mirrors, drop, dual exhaust). My biggest concern is the updated looks of the car as i feel the 420 just doesnt cut it anymore.

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Old May 20, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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get projector headlights for a start. what you want to do is absolutely pointless and expensive
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Old May 21, 2008 | 01:07 AM
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coming from a guy with about 4Grand of mods on a 7200buck E420?
Mods:
15% Tints
Alpine HU With Bluetooth and Full Speed IPod Adapter
2 12" Alpine Type-R Subs
Alpine MRP-M1000 1000 Watt Amp
LED Lights In Interior and All Around
8000k Prolumen HID Headlamps and Foglamps
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Sort of the pot calling the kettle black don't ya think
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BJAFARI93
I want to convert my car to the updated look of the e55 (2000 + body, whole car not just front). I know i need the front bumper and side skirts. But looking at the car i think i may need alot more such as hood, fenders, grill, lights? Im going to update the body to new style and do a bunch of other cosmetics (tint, new wheels, roof spoiler, mirrors, drop, dual exhaust). My biggest concern is the updated looks of the car as i feel the 420 just doesnt cut it anymore.
Thanks
Yes, you will need the newer hood, fender, grills, lights, bumper, etc... to update your pre-facelift look. If you do all of those updated cosmetic transformation on your car, you'll likely spend alot alot ALOT of dough!! Why not just sell your E420, and purchase a newer '00-'02 w210?? You'll save more in the long run, and it will be correct for its model year... You said it yourself that your "biggest concern is the updated looks of the car as i feel the 420 just doesnt cut it anymore". Good luck
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Old May 21, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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A couple of reasons.... 1- I paid nothing for this car (i have a dealers license and got it at the auction for an unbelievable price). 2- I'm 22 years old don't owe a dime to anyone (including credit cards, etc..) and don't feel like paying a note every month. 3- Because my farther owns a dealership, i get wholesale prices on all parts, body work, tires, pretty much anything car related (to do the hood, bumpers, fenders, sides, mirrors, and rear its only going to cost around $1500. 4- My job only requires me to work 6 months of the year (summers) so this would be fun to do over the winter.

Thanks for all the replies to my question. If anyone knows of anything else its appreciated. For those of you that say don't waste your money, re-read above.

Oh yeah i already have all the updated lights, and some other odds and ends.

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Old May 21, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BJAFARI93
A couple of reasons.... 1- I paid nothing for this car (i have a dealers license and got it at the auction for an unbelievable price). 2- I'm 22 years old don't owe a dime to anyone (including credit cards, etc..) and don't feel like paying a note every month. 3- Because my farther owns a dealership, i get wholesale prices on all parts, body work, tires, pretty much anything car related (to do the hood, bumpers, fenders, sides, mirrors, and rear its only going to cost around $1500. 4- My job only requires me to work 6 months of the year (summers) so this would be fun to do over the winter.
Thanks for all the replies to my question. If anyone knows of anything else its appreciated. For those of you that say don't waste your money, re-read above.
Oh yeah i already have all the updated lights, and some other odds and ends.
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Great then! You should have mentioned this in your OP so we would have known where you stood... ...can't read your mind you know!?

I think you answered your own question too since you have all the good hookups! Good deal for all that - for only $1500 bills! Have fun doing this over the winter, and please do post pics with your finished results!
Good luck mate! Hope it turns out well!!
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Old May 21, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Great then! You should have mentioned this in your OP so we would have known where you stood... ...can't read your mind you know!?

I think you answered your own question too since you have all the good hookups! Good deal for all that - for only $1500 bills! Have fun doing this over the winter, and please do post pics with your finished results!
Good luck mate! Hope it turns out well!!
Will do. Prob start my own thread since there is way going to be way more than just a face lift.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 01:10 AM
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Can't wait to see the finished product

Personally, I am adding side skirts and painting the lower black panels on my 98 e430 because I don't want to spend that much on the car, but the end product of what you plan on doing should look great

Post pix when you are done

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Old May 22, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ohlord
coming from a guy with about 4Grand of mods on a 7200buck E420?
Mods:
15% Tints
Alpine HU With Bluetooth and Full Speed IPod Adapter
2 12" Alpine Type-R Subs
Alpine MRP-M1000 1000 Watt Amp
LED Lights In Interior and All Around
8000k Prolumen HID Headlamps and Foglamps
8000k LED city Lights
18" TSW Bremma Staggered Wheels
Zam's RS6 Bi-Xenon Projector Headlights
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Sort of the pot calling the kettle black don't ya think
im not looking to replace whole front end. big difference bro. that alone should cost as much maybe more but hes got the hookups so i can see why he is doing it. i like you ohlord but dont be such a smartass all the time.

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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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your legnot trying to be a smartass
we've all seen 8grand rollers with 10grand wheel combos.
What ever rows your boat,should be the motto............
As long as it's not 22inch rims,there I draw the line
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besides you know I think your car looks cool
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ohlord
your legnot trying to be a smartass
we've all seen 8grand rollers with 10grand wheel combos.
What ever rows your boat,should be the motto............
As long as it's not 22inch rims,there I draw the line
ohlord
besides you know I think your car looks cool
ohlord... speaking of cool cars... do you have pics of your wagon? I can't recall if yours is all stock or at least modded tastefully? Show us some eye candy!
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Old May 22, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ohlord
your legnot trying to be a smartass
we've all seen 8grand rollers with 10grand wheel combos.
What ever rows your boat,should be the motto............
As long as it's not 22inch rims,there I draw the line
ohlord
besides you know I think your car looks cool
thanks haha i certainly love driving it! sry for my blow up
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Old May 22, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Old May 22, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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So i put together a to do list, heres what i'm planning so far.

-front end (e55)face lift
-updated side skirts and rear bumper
-dual exhaust (just like the white one axl something on here)
-hid headlights + fogs (no bright blue or anything ricey)
-roof spoiler
-flat hood badge
-tint windows, taillights
-updated mirros
-clear bumper lights
-respraying entire car silver & respraying roof black (like the w211)
-find the chrome monoblocks in 19" staggered but will settle for silver
-nice tires with some nice meats in the back
-lower the car (this is where i need help)

Going to do a couple things on the interior as well (navigation, switch all wood to carbon or the dark wood (black), door sills.

Thats about it dont really want to drop more money into it. I figure i can put about 3-4 grand into it (total) sell it a year or two after im done (prob 6 grand or so ) and break even ( Auctions)
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Old May 23, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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allow me to suggest the 8000k prolumens in headlight and fog and cool white led.
they look SICK i have leds in every thing in my car (parking lights, licence plate lights, interior lights, puddle lights, trunk light, glove box light haha)
its a great upgrade but ur going to need resistors. it looks great its the best match with hids
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Old May 23, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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What are "prolumens". And where would the cool white led go? I plan on changing the plate lights to led. My taillights are led with resistor and i pulled my driving lights out as i hated the look of the inside lights always on.
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Old May 23, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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prolumen is the HID brand and the cool blue LED's would go into driving lights so they would match the 8000k hids. and then you can just get white leds to put around in the car its bright and looks cool at night especially the puddle/courtesy foot lights
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Old May 23, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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8000k might be too blue. 6000k is the sweet spot in my opinion.

get the Apex 55 watt system from this place. The good thing about this system is the wattage matches that of a halogen lamp so the you won't get the lamp defect warning. I literally plugged the ballast wires into the positive and negative of the lamp socket of my headlamps and it worked without a problem. these things are so sweetly bright (almost twice the 35 watts). and if you are doing the projector lens you shouldn't have to worry about the oncoming drivers.

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http://www.therpmstore.com/index.php...b0d67b1fcb24de
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Old May 24, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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I'm guessing with the headlights your doing the clear projectors so what you need to do is a retrofit and not just throw in some blue bulbs unless you want to drive around blind! By the way, I was thinking about doing what you're doing but it is definitely not worth it regardless of how cheap you have access to the parts or labor. If you can buy cars so cheap than you should sell your car stock at retail value and not put a penny more in it and then buy an 00-02 e55 amg at wholesale for around 12-15k with good mileage. Once again not tying to ruin your party but why drop so much money just to make your car "look" like an e55 when its not and + you will not have the amg motor!
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8000k might be too blue. 6000k is the sweet spot in my opinion.

get the Apex 55 watt system from this place. The good thing about this system is the wattage matches that of a halogen lamp so the you won't get the lamp defect warning. I literally plugged the ballast wires into the positive and negative of the lamp socket of my headlamps and it worked without a problem. these things are so sweetly bright (almost twice the 35 watts). and if you are doing the projector lens you shouldn't have to worry about the oncoming drivers. >.....<
The flaw in this assessment is that the lamp failure warning system is not based
on bulb wattage or ballast wattage. What is being suggested is to increase by 30% the power through an HID bulb nominally rated for 35 watts. Sure, it will
burn brighter. But it will also burn much hotter (ºF) than designed, potentially
damaging the bulb holder and/or reflector. Unless you're certain that your
particular application can withstand this added power consumption (ergo, heat)
you're taking a big risk. MB 210 factory wiring isn't known for being overbuilt.
Experience would caution that such power enhancements incorporate a well designed (and fuse protected) relay subharness. Bluntly put, your blanket
recommendation is anecdotal, based on the success of a single, generic
application, and thus, ill advised.
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Originally Posted by BJAFARI93
So i put together a to do list, heres what i'm planning so far.

-front end (e55)face lift
-updated side skirts and rear bumper
-dual exhaust (just like the white one axl something on here)
-hid headlights + fogs (no bright blue or anything ricey)
-roof spoiler
-flat hood badge
-tint windows, taillights
-updated mirros
-clear bumper lights
-respraying entire car silver & respraying roof black (like the w211)
-find the chrome monoblocks in 19" staggered but will settle for silver
-nice tires with some nice meats in the back
-lower the car (this is where i need help)

Going to do a couple things on the interior as well (navigation, switch all wood to carbon or the dark wood (black), door sills.

Thats about it dont really want to drop more money into it. I figure i can put about 3-4 grand into it (total) sell it a year or two after im done (prob 6 grand or so ) and break even ( Auctions)
While I completely disagree with your idea of how a car should look, if you think you can get all of the above for 4k, with your special deal or not, I think your nuts.

19" tires will already be about $1,000. 19" chrome AMG wheels, at least 2k, then all the bodywork.

P.S., the 211 doesn't have a "black sprayed roof". thats the pano roof option, and its glass, not paint.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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sell your car for a decent amount, then add onto it for a newer car...Even if you did get the car for free and don't owe anything, that is completely irrelevant. You'll start to owe money when you spend all that money making it more modern.
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Originally Posted by BJAFARI93
So i put together a to do list, heres what i'm planning so far.

-front end (e55)face lift
-updated side skirts and rear bumper
-dual exhaust (just like the white one axl something on here)
-hid headlights + fogs (no bright blue or anything ricey)
-roof spoiler
-flat hood badge
-tint windows, taillights
-updated mirros
-clear bumper lights
-respraying entire car silver & respraying roof black (like the w211)
-find the chrome monoblocks in 19" staggered but will settle for silver
-nice tires with some nice meats in the back
-lower the car (this is where i need help)

Going to do a couple things on the interior as well (navigation, switch all wood to carbon or the dark wood (black), door sills.

Thats about it dont really want to drop more money into it. I figure i can put about 3-4 grand into it (total) sell it a year or two after im done (prob 6 grand or so ) and break even ( Auctions)
-front end (e55)face lift---------------------------------------------$1,000
-updated side skirts and rear bumper---------------------------------^^^^
-dual exhaust (just like the white one axl something on here)-----------$500
-hid headlights + fogs (no bright blue or anything ricey)----------------$400
-roof spoiler----------------------------------------------------------$300
-flat hood badge------------------------------------------------------$40
-tint windows, taillights-----------------------------------------------$320
-updated mirros------------------------------------------------------$150
-clear bumper lights--------------------------------------------------$40
-respraying entire car silver & respraying roof black (like the w211)-----$1000
-find the chrome monoblocks in 19" staggered but will settle for silver--$1,900
-nice tires with some nice meats in the back---------------------------^^^
-lower the car (this is where i need help)------------------------------$600

WITH A GRAND TOTAL OF!!----------------------------->6,250!!!!

Good luck buddy, let us know how it goes.....
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Old May 27, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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I appreciate your comments, suggestions, and input but thanks it’s my car and ill do as I please. It’s a public forum and you are all entitled to your own opinions as am I. You guys need to understand I have already priced everything out includes paint (I am not paying for any labor on anything just materials and parts). I also get wholesale costs on most stuff. For example it usually cost upwards of 200 to tint a car while I only have to pay the price of tint. It’s actually very simple as a dealer you get wholesale and great rates because on the other end they understand you have to turn this car for a profit but in this case I am doing it to my personal car.

For the people that say don’t waste your money etc, again I understand that’s your opinion but to me I rather have a bunch of money in my bank account, no debt (even my insurance is paid in full). Especially with times like these and everyone is being cheap I still do everything I want because I have been smart and haven’t went out and bought that x5 4.8 that I wanted because I rather live comfortable. Plus I live in the city and I would never want my new car to get beat up the way it is out here
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Its your car so you can do as you please but that is just plain retarded. I own a business and even if you buy wholesale parts they are not a ton cheaper than retail price maybe 35% and most of the time name brand items like Mercedes the wholesale price is maybe 10% cheaper than retail. And also, you're saying you get most things wholesale but most places that sale wholesale to dealers don't carry all these after market parts especially for a car of your age.
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