Facelift interior in pre-facelift
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2001 E220T CDI Avantgarde, 2002 E55T AMG
Facelift interior in pre-facelift
Hi
Will an interior (seats, door panels and armrest) from a facelift 210 wagon fit in a pre-facelift 210 wagon?
A guy with a 97 model may be interested in my old 01 model interior.
-Simen
Will an interior (seats, door panels and armrest) from a facelift 210 wagon fit in a pre-facelift 210 wagon?
A guy with a 97 model may be interested in my old 01 model interior.
-Simen
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99 E320
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2003 S210 3.8L Brabus wagon
I know steering wheels are different due to controls in the post face lift models starting in 06/99 and same is true with the gauge cluster being different. The shifters are also different. I am sure there is more.
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I have owned both 98 model and 01 model and know the visual and technical upgrades, but I just want to know if the door panels, seats and center armrest will fit, as I stated in the first post, without problems..
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you know who might know is SteveK, since he specializes in OEM upgrades
and retrofits. email him on this. let us know what he says as this may come
up again. (sorry, PnP meant "plug and play" computer term)
Steve K - MBenzNL - Home
and retrofits. email him on this. let us know what he says as this may come
up again. (sorry, PnP meant "plug and play" computer term)
Steve K - MBenzNL - Home
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I just emailed Wanda about some parts last week and haven't got an answer about that yet, so they are probably busy at the moment.. I'll ask her when I get an answer if noone have answered it here by then 
but now i'm tired.. good night everybody
but now i'm tired.. good night everybody
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99 E320
omg!....am I the ultimate idiot or what?! i may have confused 'facelift' 210
with w211 !!
illest may have just picked up a 2x4 and whacked
me upside the head. well, we'll wait to see what Wanda/Steve says.
doc has been prescribing new heart meds but it's making me woozy more
than i like. dosage cut in half so hopefully i'll not post stoopid advice
with w211 !!
illest may have just picked up a 2x4 and whacked me upside the head. well, we'll wait to see what Wanda/Steve says.
doc has been prescribing new heart meds but it's making me woozy more
than i like. dosage cut in half so hopefully i'll not post stoopid advice
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some slow@$$diesels
model update - pre modelupdate...as long as it is W210 it fits in any W210...same goes for S210...
the rear seats for S and W are different but besides that you can swap around whatever you want to swap around...and you can even install the MF steering wheel with IC in a pre modelupdated 210 without too much hassle.
greetingz,
the rear seats for S and W are different but besides that you can swap around whatever you want to swap around...and you can even install the MF steering wheel with IC in a pre modelupdated 210 without too much hassle.
greetingz,
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sweeet, tnx for confirming, Steve 
here are facelift seats from E55 stuffed into my 99 E320
(aplogies to semi for giving him whiplash)
here are facelift seats from E55 stuffed into my 99 E320
(aplogies to semi for giving him whiplash)
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omg!....am I the ultimate idiot or what?! i may have confused 'facelift' 210
with w211 !! illest may have just picked up a 2x4 and whacked
me upside the head. well, we'll wait to see what Wanda/Steve says.
doc has been prescribing new heart meds but it's making me woozy more
than i like. dosage cut in half so hopefully i'll not post stoopid advice
with w211 !!
illest may have just picked up a 2x4 and whacked me upside the head. well, we'll wait to see what Wanda/Steve says.
doc has been prescribing new heart meds but it's making me woozy more
than i like. dosage cut in half so hopefully i'll not post stoopid advice
hehehehe lol
But seriously, the part with you needing heart meds isn't funny at all, i'm sorry to hear about that...
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The time over here is just 10:23 PM now.. yesterday it was 10:12PM. But I leave for work at 6am and come home around 9-10pm... so long days at work. don't get much sleep..
Good night everybody
Good night everybody
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model update - pre modelupdate...as long as it is W210 it fits in any W210...same goes for S210...
the rear seats for S and W are different but besides that you can swap around whatever you want to swap around...and you can even install the MF steering wheel with IC in a pre modelupdated 210 without too much hassle.
greetingz,
the rear seats for S and W are different but besides that you can swap around whatever you want to swap around...and you can even install the MF steering wheel with IC in a pre modelupdated 210 without too much hassle.
greetingz,
Thank you steve
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Here is some poor pictures of my new interior by the way
http://mercefreaken.com/forum/viewto...tart=45#p43229
and at the bottom there are a picture of one of my "new" wheels
High-gloss polished oem 17'' light alloys
http://mercefreaken.com/forum/viewto...tart=45#p43229
and at the bottom there are a picture of one of my "new" wheels
High-gloss polished oem 17'' light alloys
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W210 1996 E320 Petrol Saloon
w210 pre facelift interior upgrade
you know who might know is SteveK, since he specializes in OEM upgrades
and retrofits. email him on this. let us know what he says as this may come
up again. (sorry, PnP meant "plug and play" computer term)
Steve K - MBenzNL - Home
and retrofits. email him on this. let us know what he says as this may come
up again. (sorry, PnP meant "plug and play" computer term)
Steve K - MBenzNL - Home
I'm looking for advice regarding my 1996 W210 E320 Petrol, I would like to know what is required as part of a strip and fit process to enable and facilitate heated memory seats, rear blind and automatic boot from a 1998 E300 Turbo Diesel.
Any guidance is sincerely appreciated please.
Thanking you,
Ravinder
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Not easy to say since you've not identified the features on the car you're trying to fit the parts into.
Memory/heated seats require new console trim, locate heater button, electrical wiring to fit the heated seats (if not already on your car)
Rear blind is an electric, I believe. I dont have experience with that
The boot/trunk remote open is air operated. The pump is the 'pneumatic systems equipment' pump which fits under the rear seat.
Mercedes systems computer must be docked with your car via the round electric communications port in the engine bay and set
for it to recognize this feature. Piping will need to be routed from the pump into the trunk and it is possible a new, latch system
will need to be fitted in order to operate via the air system.
Not having done any of these projects, I'm not a good person to assist other than in a very general fashion. Additionally, it is
possible that since you have a first year w210 model, it may or may not be possible. There may be model specific differences
which make these modifications more challenging.
wishing you success
Memory/heated seats require new console trim, locate heater button, electrical wiring to fit the heated seats (if not already on your car)
Rear blind is an electric, I believe. I dont have experience with that
The boot/trunk remote open is air operated. The pump is the 'pneumatic systems equipment' pump which fits under the rear seat.
Mercedes systems computer must be docked with your car via the round electric communications port in the engine bay and set
for it to recognize this feature. Piping will need to be routed from the pump into the trunk and it is possible a new, latch system
will need to be fitted in order to operate via the air system.
Not having done any of these projects, I'm not a good person to assist other than in a very general fashion. Additionally, it is
possible that since you have a first year w210 model, it may or may not be possible. There may be model specific differences
which make these modifications more challenging.
wishing you success
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W210 1996 E320 Petrol Saloon
W210 Retrofit Heated Memory Seats
Not easy to say since you've not identified the features on the car you're trying to fit the parts into.
Memory/heated seats require new console trim, locate heater button, electrical wiring to fit the heated seats (if not already on your car)
Rear blind is an electric, I believe. I dont have experience with that
The boot/trunk remote open is air operated. The pump is the 'pneumatic systems equipment' pump which fits under the rear seat.
Mercedes systems computer must be docked with your car via the round electric communications port in the engine bay and set
for it to recognize this feature. Piping will need to be routed from the pump into the trunk and it is possible a new, latch system
will need to be fitted in order to operate via the air system.
Not having done any of these projects, I'm not a good person to assist other than in a very general fashion. Additionally, it is
possible that since you have a first year w210 model, it may or may not be possible. There may be model specific differences
which make these modifications more challenging.
wishing you success
Memory/heated seats require new console trim, locate heater button, electrical wiring to fit the heated seats (if not already on your car)
Rear blind is an electric, I believe. I dont have experience with that
The boot/trunk remote open is air operated. The pump is the 'pneumatic systems equipment' pump which fits under the rear seat.
Mercedes systems computer must be docked with your car via the round electric communications port in the engine bay and set
for it to recognize this feature. Piping will need to be routed from the pump into the trunk and it is possible a new, latch system
will need to be fitted in order to operate via the air system.
Not having done any of these projects, I'm not a good person to assist other than in a very general fashion. Additionally, it is
possible that since you have a first year w210 model, it may or may not be possible. There may be model specific differences
which make these modifications more challenging.
wishing you success
Thank you for your prompt reply. I have decided to keep my early pre-facelift W210 as original, and just enjoy it for what it it.
I have since purchased a facelift W210 Year 2000 E320, without heated memory seats.
As per the Pdf file to retrofit the rear blind, are you aware of a similar document available to retro fit heated memory seats.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Very best wishes,
Ravinder
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I did check the MB WIS/EPC dvd disk earlier and did NOT find anything under "retrofit". That one is a little
trickier and will need someone with a little more insight as to whether the w210 harness to the front seats
already come with the wiring (but unconnected). With some features, this is the case and it would be a
relatively easy modification, for example, adding CD player, adding rear window blind, adding analog
cellular phone. I believe the existing wiring is already in place when the w210 left the factory.
What I don't know is whether front seat heater wiring is already there...making it less difficult, though you
would still face the challenge of wiring in the console switch, finding the console wood paneling, locating
the seats, etc. Those are important questions for the owner wishing to add heated seats.
Separately, I only had standard heated seats but wanted the MB seats with air bladder pillows. That
required replumbing with additional air hoses, air control switch module and car system reprogramming
to introduce the PSE pump to the control/feature. So this is one example of knowing what is in the car
or what is needed.
The folks who specialized in this haven't been around MBWorld in some time (SteveNL and Sunil). They
were EXPERTS in retrofitting MB with MB parts. If anyone knows of another brain or resource out there
let us know and we'll see if we can put folks in touch with them through this forum.
trickier and will need someone with a little more insight as to whether the w210 harness to the front seats
already come with the wiring (but unconnected). With some features, this is the case and it would be a
relatively easy modification, for example, adding CD player, adding rear window blind, adding analog
cellular phone. I believe the existing wiring is already in place when the w210 left the factory.
What I don't know is whether front seat heater wiring is already there...making it less difficult, though you
would still face the challenge of wiring in the console switch, finding the console wood paneling, locating
the seats, etc. Those are important questions for the owner wishing to add heated seats.
Separately, I only had standard heated seats but wanted the MB seats with air bladder pillows. That
required replumbing with additional air hoses, air control switch module and car system reprogramming
to introduce the PSE pump to the control/feature. So this is one example of knowing what is in the car
or what is needed.
The folks who specialized in this haven't been around MBWorld in some time (SteveNL and Sunil). They
were EXPERTS in retrofitting MB with MB parts. If anyone knows of another brain or resource out there
let us know and we'll see if we can put folks in touch with them through this forum.
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W210 1996 E320 Petrol Saloon
I did check the MB WIS/EPC dvd disk earlier and did NOT find anything under "retrofit". That one is a little
trickier and will need someone with a little more insight as to whether the w210 harness to the front seats
already come with the wiring (but unconnected). With some features, this is the case and it would be a
relatively easy modification, for example, adding CD player, adding rear window blind, adding analog
cellular phone. I believe the existing wiring is already in place when the w210 left the factory.
What I don't know is whether front seat heater wiring is already there...making it less difficult, though you
would still face the challenge of wiring in the console switch, finding the console wood paneling, locating
the seats, etc. Those are important questions for the owner wishing to add heated seats.
Separately, I only had standard heated seats but wanted the MB seats with air bladder pillows. That
required replumbing with additional air hoses, air control switch module and car system reprogramming
to introduce the PSE pump to the control/feature. So this is one example of knowing what is in the car
or what is needed.
The folks who specialized in this haven't been around MBWorld in some time (SteveNL and Sunil). They
were EXPERTS in retrofitting MB with MB parts. If anyone knows of another brain or resource out there
let us know and we'll see if we can put folks in touch with them through this forum.
trickier and will need someone with a little more insight as to whether the w210 harness to the front seats
already come with the wiring (but unconnected). With some features, this is the case and it would be a
relatively easy modification, for example, adding CD player, adding rear window blind, adding analog
cellular phone. I believe the existing wiring is already in place when the w210 left the factory.
What I don't know is whether front seat heater wiring is already there...making it less difficult, though you
would still face the challenge of wiring in the console switch, finding the console wood paneling, locating
the seats, etc. Those are important questions for the owner wishing to add heated seats.
Separately, I only had standard heated seats but wanted the MB seats with air bladder pillows. That
required replumbing with additional air hoses, air control switch module and car system reprogramming
to introduce the PSE pump to the control/feature. So this is one example of knowing what is in the car
or what is needed.
The folks who specialized in this haven't been around MBWorld in some time (SteveNL and Sunil). They
were EXPERTS in retrofitting MB with MB parts. If anyone knows of another brain or resource out there
let us know and we'll see if we can put folks in touch with them through this forum.
The vehicle that I am now upgrading is a year 2000 facelift E320 Elegance which currently has grey cloth interior with semi electric seats.
I also have the donor Car which is a 1998 E300 TurboDiesel with heated memory seats and rear blind.
If there is any guidance available regarding the installation of heated memory seats, and the associated modification to the ECU's in order to function as required that would be sincerely appreciated.
Thanking you.
Yours sincerely,
Ravinder
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1994 E320T sportline, 1997 E430T, 2000 E320CDI, 2017 Vito 116
Dear Ravinder,
Did you manage to solve it?
I’m in a similar situation where I wish to put my full memory leather interior from a pre-facelift in my facelifted E320cdi.
thanks,
Did you manage to solve it?
I’m in a similar situation where I wish to put my full memory leather interior from a pre-facelift in my facelifted E320cdi.
thanks,
