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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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I feel like there's a problem with the heating in my car. It feels really weak compared to my old car. I put it on the max the other day on 85 and it barely blows any hot air out. This doesn't really help with the cold weather we've been having.

Anybody know what the deal is?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Is your EC light stuck on?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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Nope. What does it really do?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBoss
I feel like there's a problem with the heating in my car. It feels really weak compared to my old car. I put it on the max the other day on 85 and it barely blows any hot air out. This doesn't really help with the cold weather we've been having.

Anybody know what the deal is?
what does the temp gauge read? I had the thermostat opening early on mine last year, seldom got to 80C and as a result the heater was pretty lame. New thermostat and it was an entirely different story, warm and toasty.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 01:21 AM
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Which temperature gauge are you talking about?
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 05:03 AM
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The one on the

left side of the dash cluster display.
Either the coolant is low or your tstat is going..
The EC light has nothing to do with it at all,whoever brought that up.
Is it blowing full force but not blowing hot hot air>
First check the res for coolant level and then replace the tstat.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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I usually wait till the needle is about halfway before turning on the heat. I turned it up all the way to the max and the air is warm but it isn't like really really hot. I pressed the EC button and I did notice a small difference I think.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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hi,

I just had a similar problem. i just had the coolant changed. And after about 80 miles worth of driving i randomly get the message displayed "coolant level". i also feel as if my hot air isn't as hot as it used to be. Unless its all in my head.

Thermostat has never been changed after 100k plus miles.

I haven't seen any coolant leaking around. I still have to check the coolant reservoir. This just happened to me tonight.

Anyone have any tips as to what tests i should perform.

THANKS
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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I also have the same problem. It gets warm in the cabin, but not like my other cars. I checked the coolant, looks good. Water temp gauge reads just below 80 when the car is at op temp. I will have to purchase a new t-stat, any idea on a rough price from a dealer? Looks to be a basic install.

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:50 AM
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Forgot about this thread almost. Also when I press that button with arrows pointing to the face, floor, or up the air blows in all directions. Is it only supposed to blow in the selected areas or all of them? Like if I choose the setting that blows down and up it would still blow from all the vents. Is it supposed to be like that?
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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I believe when you have the heat on. Its only supposed to blow from the passenger vent and drivers vent, and the dash. The center vents i believe were designed not to blow hot air based on what i read in older threads. Only time they should work along with everything else is during a/c.


Anyone have any other idea or tip as to my question above.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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I meant like when I press the button and set it to the down arrow it still blows from all the the side vent next to the door and near the windshield. I thought the arrows mean you choose where the air goes. Floor, windshield, face...
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Although I hardly ever use it. Mine seems to function as the icon describes directing air flow according to the arrows.

There is a second diagnostic built into the CC controller on the dash. You can bring it up and test the functioning of the flaps. Similar to the one for A/C trouble codes. It's pretty detailed with lots of references to other documents. MB doc AD83.40-P-3002B. Maybe someone can post it but each check references another document you would need as well.
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Most likely sounds like your Duovalve is faulty(common problem). The duovalve regulates the flow of coolant to the heater core by intermittently(similar to PWM) switching the ground circuit of the Duovalve in relation to temp output request.
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBoss
I meant like when I press the button and set it to the down arrow it still blows from all the the side vent next to the door and near the windshield. I thought the arrows mean you choose where the air goes. Floor, windshield, face...
I had a chance to check mine and found the following.

Up Arrow only: Some flow from defroster vents but still majority of flow from vent above headlight switch. No flow from vent near gas pedal.

Including Down Arrow produced some flow from vent near gas pedal. Others no change.

In all combinations flow from vent above light switch was substantial.

Pressing defroster button produced full flow from defroster vents.
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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I warm my E320 up when its under 30 out. Right now its in the garage and its -5 outside. AHHH
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardM98
I had a chance to check mine and found the following.

Up Arrow only: Some flow from defroster vents but still majority of flow from vent above headlight switch. No flow from vent near gas pedal.

Including Down Arrow produced some flow from vent near gas pedal. Others no change.

In all combinations flow from vent above light switch was substantial.

Pressing defroster button produced full flow from defroster vents.
Thanks, I'll check again and report back.

Now that you remind me of the defroster. When I turn my rear defroster on some of my radio stations don't work, they become all static-y. This was not the case when I first bought the car.
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBoss
Thanks, I'll check again and report back.

Now that you remind me of the defroster. When I turn my rear defroster on some of my radio stations don't work, they become all static-y. This was not the case when I first bought the car.
The radio antenna is made up of several components including the wires of the rear window defroster. Not sure what the interference could be. There is an antenna amplifier in one of the rear columns. Sometimes connections are bad there. Also, window tinting films (the ones with metal in them) are bad actors for radio reception. In my wagon it is in the C column (drivers side) but not sure on sedan.
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It may not be a heating issue. I mean it is like -5 here and even with my E320 in the garage when I take it out and its fully warmed up it still doesnt feel as hot as it should. My point being that its just sooo damn cold out. Even with heated seats on it still feels like a chill.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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bigboss, when was the last time you changed the cabin filter? you would be surprised how much airflow a dirty cabin filter can affect.

also another know issue with our cars is the blower motor regulator. a common sign of it failing is very weak airflow. you will know when it's going bad because you will get very weak airflow and also hear a hissing sound. i have changed 2 blower motor regulators in the last 6 years, seems like they were bad design. but as long as your car gets warm or cold at a reasonable time i wouldn't worry about changing it, regulator cost around $90 by the way.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Tirona,

This something I've been thinking about doing. How do you change this? Where to look for it? There are two filters right? Looking for input on how to do it. Thanks, MJ
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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http://www.mann-hummel.com/mf_prodka...BCPN0wqkur.pdf
there might be better instructions on benzworld also, you might want to check there too. first time might take longer, but after you do it once it's a 5 min job.
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Thanks tirona, I'll look into it. I haven't changed much on the car since I got in a few months ago.
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Originally Posted by BigBoss
Thanks, I'll check again and report back.

Now that you remind me of the defroster. When I turn my rear defroster on some of my radio stations don't work, they become all static-y. This was not the case when I first bought the car.
Looking for something else I ran across a Service Bulletin about radio interference when the rear defroster is turned on. Cause could be bad electrolytic capacitor in the defroster circuit. Not sure but I would assume it's near where power attaches to defroster grid. Hope this helps some.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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to your am/fm diversity amplifier.
That might clear up the static.
If not take a peak at it and make sure all the wires are in place.
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