Performance bulbs
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Malaysia
Mercedes W210 E280
New E, what kind of wattage did you use in the end for your E?
I went to their website and it seems that the lowest wattage for their bulbs are 70W. Since the E (including most cars) take in 55W, what are the dangers of going to something higher (other then probably melting your lights. :P)
I went to their website and it seems that the lowest wattage for their bulbs are 70W. Since the E (including most cars) take in 55W, what are the dangers of going to something higher (other then probably melting your lights. :P)
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
Just installed some Philips Diamond Vision 5000K headlight bulbs on a new W209 CLK. Excellent effect - can't tell the difference with the xenons: very white with a bluish tint (but not too much) and much brighter compared to the standard halos 
Good choice Tezta!
Good choice Tezta!
Member
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Carlsson9,
The bulbs are 55 watt. They originally sent 80 watt, but I didn't even try them for fear they would melt the wiring. One of the H6 bulbs went out after about two-three months, but when I contacted them they not only sent a replacement but sent an extra one as well. Again great customer service.
Thanks!
The bulbs are 55 watt. They originally sent 80 watt, but I didn't even try them for fear they would melt the wiring. One of the H6 bulbs went out after about two-three months, but when I contacted them they not only sent a replacement but sent an extra one as well. Again great customer service.
Thanks!
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Malaysia
Mercedes W210 E280
Whitey, how does the Philips Xenons look?
I've been suing them all round now, and its definitely better than standard, but not as white as i would like it to be..
However, my light covers are pretty worn out with yellow bit and scratches, so i was told to change them, the effects would be better..
I've been suing them all round now, and its definitely better than standard, but not as white as i would like it to be..
However, my light covers are pretty worn out with yellow bit and scratches, so i was told to change them, the effects would be better..
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
They're not xenons but I swear I can't tell the difference (except maybe xenons can be more blinding at certain angles). They are Diamond Vision Bulbs, 5000K, which emit a very slight blue tint. I don't know which Philips you're using (Philips makes many kinds that'll fit our cars - Blue Vision, Diamon Vision, Ultra Vision, All Weather etc with different color temprratures) but these are sure very bright and white, especially on the projectors the W209 have.
Last edited by Whitey; Feb 16, 2004 at 05:00 AM.
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Malaysia
Mercedes W210 E280
I definitely went for the diamond Blue Vision..
went through the powerbulbs webpage and found it to be the brightest of them all..
but in actual, nothing much compared to the xenons..
oh well..saving up for the hellas..
and sent the E for a top overhaul..its confirmed leaking, so will take pics of the engine open up and post it on the forum for all to see.
went through the powerbulbs webpage and found it to be the brightest of them all..
but in actual, nothing much compared to the xenons..
oh well..saving up for the hellas..
and sent the E for a top overhaul..its confirmed leaking, so will take pics of the engine open up and post it on the forum for all to see.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
Oh well, I guess its the lense cuz it looks darn good on projectors. You said "Diamond Blue Vision", it should be either Blue Vision or Diamond Vision. Are you talking about the city/parking lights or headlights? I was talking about the headlights BTW. Anyways, the effect might be different with your aged lenses. I use an unbranded Jap bulb and they're very white and bright too.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Malaysia
Mercedes W210 E280
whooops..diamond vision whitey:P
have it for the foggies, H7 low and high beam plus the parking lights!
parking lights are an improvement..:/ I'ms til waiting for the projectors..could improve way better, and save me from getting Xenons...
maybe I'll take a pic of the lights and post it up one day
have it for the foggies, H7 low and high beam plus the parking lights!
parking lights are an improvement..:/ I'ms til waiting for the projectors..could improve way better, and save me from getting Xenons...
maybe I'll take a pic of the lights and post it up one day
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
Well, my Jap super whites are looking just fine to me. Now, my bud's not happy that the blue color on the bulb is visible off the projector's reflectors
We'll be on the lookout for something else that has clear or whitish glass.....watch this space.....
We'll be on the lookout for something else that has clear or whitish glass.....watch this space.....
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,216
Likes: 0
From: Hong Kong / Jakarta
CLS350
Originally posted by Whitey
Well, my Jap super whites are looking just fine to me. Now, my bud's not happy that the blue color on the bulb is visible off the projector's reflectors We'll be on the lookout for something else that has clear or whitish glass.....watch this space.....
Well, my Jap super whites are looking just fine to me. Now, my bud's not happy that the blue color on the bulb is visible off the projector's reflectors
We'll be on the lookout for something else that has clear or whitish glass.....watch this space.....
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Malaysia
Mercedes W210 E280
went to a shop in KL, like a huge automobile warehouse, and they were selling **** loads of PIAA bulbs. didn't think too much about it, until i saw their display boards with all the diff types of bulbs with a switch which you can just turn on and see the effect. Was i pleasently suprised! there's a PIAA super something white bulbs or rather that was damn white, and putting it next to the HID lamp, i couldn't really tell the diff! That had totally made me believe there might be some bulbs out there that's as white as Xenons. Its 7500K, but its like RM 450 a pair of H7.. pricey, but something to think about.
i'd recommend it after seeing the lights in action myself. Will try to get the e=actual name next time
pricey, but something to think about.i'd recommend it after seeing the lights in action myself. Will try to get the e=actual name next time
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
I think you can replcate the xenon color effect with halos but can never replcate their clarity. If the color is all you're after, worry no more i.e. they are available. RM450 - what's that in real money???? Sounds damn expensive in any case - Philips is probably better value (although in Hk the price of comparable PIAA and Philips is pretty much the same).
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Malaysia
Mercedes W210 E280
well, i'm not looking for something that's just colour whiteym but something that's brigther than regular bulbs. RM450 is about US 118 a pair. It doesn't have a blue tint, but the kind of gold coat that you won't be able to see from your projectors.
its pretty bright, but it generates quite a bit of heat too..
it's definitely whiter then the philips. Will try one day if i don't get the Xenons in the end. :P
lol
its pretty bright, but it generates quite a bit of heat too..
it's definitely whiter then the philips. Will try one day if i don't get the Xenons in the end. :P
lol
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
Yeah, I know what u mean - I think the Crystal Vision is the same, i.e. goldish coating and much brighter than the regular halos. Mine are definitely much brghter, close to the xenons but just don't have that crispy clear effect of the xenons.
Did u find out if the wattage is correct on the PIAAs you tested? U dun wanna spend that much money on bulbs that will burn out your system......
But US$100+ for PIAA's? I've never seen PIAAs for that much here......do find out the exact model so I can see if they're any cheaper here - there's tons of PIAAs out here!
Did u find out if the wattage is correct on the PIAAs you tested? U dun wanna spend that much money on bulbs that will burn out your system......
But US$100+ for PIAA's? I've never seen PIAAs for that much here......do find out the exact model so I can see if they're any cheaper here - there's tons of PIAAs out here!
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
From: Malaysia
Mercedes W210 E280
will do whitey..the PIAAs did sound pretty expensive, but will get the actual name and maybe take a snap of it for all to see when i visit the shop again.
first thing i did when i saw the box was to check the wattage..all of them were 55W, just right for the Benz..
what Jap Brand are your bulbs? West bulbs?
first thing i did when i saw the box was to check the wattage..all of them were 55W, just right for the Benz..
what Jap Brand are your bulbs? West bulbs?
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
Sorry, can't remember. I've tried so many different bulbs I've got millions of boxes in my trunk so I don't really know which is which 
. Have had them for more than 18 months now and still going strong (touch wood!).
The most expensive PIAA I've ever seen here are less than US$65, so maybe you'd be paying too much...dunno.
. Have had them for more than 18 months now and still going strong (touch wood!). The most expensive PIAA I've ever seen here are less than US$65, so maybe you'd be paying too much...dunno.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,464
Likes: 9
From: SoCal OC
S, GL, Escalade ESV, my shoes
I've tried out about couple millions (!!!) type of bulb (probably enough to get a real xenon head light). Some burned out in matter of weeks, the rest produced half-a** light. White or blue light doesn't mean it's brighter, as the matter of fact, the quality of light is diminissed vastly.
I settled on the Philips Vision Plus, it's not one of those trendy while or blue light, but is sure produced great lights, much better than the OEM one.
It's not DOT approved, simply because it's too bright, I think. It's approved in Europe though.
I settled on the Philips Vision Plus, it's not one of those trendy while or blue light, but is sure produced great lights, much better than the OEM one.
It's not DOT approved, simply because it's too bright, I think. It's approved in Europe though.
Originally posted by Whitey
Sorry, can't remember. I've tried so many different bulbs I've got millions of boxes in my trunk so I don't really know which is which . Have had them for more than 18 months now and still going strong (touch wood!).
The most expensive PIAA I've ever seen here are less than US$65, so maybe you'd be paying too much...dunno.
Sorry, can't remember. I've tried so many different bulbs I've got millions of boxes in my trunk so I don't really know which is which
. Have had them for more than 18 months now and still going strong (touch wood!). The most expensive PIAA I've ever seen here are less than US$65, so maybe you'd be paying too much...dunno.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
Hahhahaa! Good to hear I'm not the only foo to throw money down the drain on bulbs
Now I just gotto find someone with the same problem with wheels.....(Tezta comes close!)
Now I just gotto find someone with the same problem with wheels.....(Tezta comes close!)
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 0
From: SFV, Ca.
W210, W220, W163, W164, C6
Originally posted by carlsson9
went to a shop in KL, like a huge automobile warehouse, and they were selling **** loads of PIAA bulbs. didn't think too much about it, until i saw their display boards with all the diff types of bulbs with a switch which you can just turn on and see the effect. Was i pleasently suprised! there's a PIAA super something white bulbs or rather that was damn white, and putting it next to the HID lamp, i couldn't really tell the diff! That had totally made me believe there might be some bulbs out there that's as white as Xenons. Its 7500K, but its like RM 450 a pair of H7.. pricey, but something to think about.
i'd recommend it after seeing the lights in action myself. Will try to get the e=actual name next time
went to a shop in KL, like a huge automobile warehouse, and they were selling **** loads of PIAA bulbs. didn't think too much about it, until i saw their display boards with all the diff types of bulbs with a switch which you can just turn on and see the effect. Was i pleasently suprised! there's a PIAA super something white bulbs or rather that was damn white, and putting it next to the HID lamp, i couldn't really tell the diff! That had totally made me believe there might be some bulbs out there that's as white as Xenons. Its 7500K, but its like RM 450 a pair of H7..
pricey, but something to think about.i'd recommend it after seeing the lights in action myself. Will try to get the e=actual name next time
Are these the PIAA Spark Blue Plasma 7500K?? I've got an H7 set I use for less than a month...emits a real blue light mainly for show, not much for functionality...anyway if these are what your looking for, their yours!!! Their just collecting dust in my garage. Just pick up the tab for shipping...let me know.
Richard
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 0
From: SFV, Ca.
W210, W220, W163, W164, C6
Originally posted by Whitey
I likes! Let me know when you're going to be in the area..........see, its good having varying tastes - won't let things go to waste!
I likes! Let me know when you're going to be in the area..........see, its good having varying tastes - won't let things go to waste!
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 2
From: HK (but constantly travelling)
98 W210 Advantgarde
Just playing - young Carlsson9 should have them if he wants but yeah, if u can't get rid of them, would be interested. I'm more interested in going partying with ya!
I do know a guy who travels to/from LA once every few months.
I do know a guy who travels to/from LA once every few months.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 0
From: SFV, Ca.
W210, W220, W163, W164, C6
Originally posted by Whitey
Just playing - young Carlsson9 should have them if he wants but yeah, if u can't get rid of them, would be interested. I'm more interested in going partying with ya!
I do know a guy who travels to/from LA once every few months.
Just playing - young Carlsson9 should have them if he wants but yeah, if u can't get rid of them, would be interested. I'm more interested in going partying with ya!
I do know a guy who travels to/from LA once every few months.
PM me when your buddy is in town, no problem hookin up with him.
