No Longer "Confused"...
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No Longer "Confused"...
Hello everyone......I JUST BOUGHT MY NEW Brilliant silver 2000 e430 today!!!! Man, its awesome!!! Whitey, now I'm officially part of the family. It took me about 30 mins to find the darn cupholder, but it was well worth it. Now, I've got to just lower it & get some chrome 18's. Then, we'll be in business. Thanks to everyone on this forum for your great help and advice on this purchase. I'll keep you all posted on the progress.
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Re: No Longer "Confused"...
Originally posted by guillermo
Hello everyone......I JUST BOUGHT MY NEW Brilliant silver 2000 e430 today!!!! Man, its awesome!!! Whitey, now I'm officially part of the family. It took me about 30 mins to find the darn cupholder, but it was well worth it. Now, I've got to just lower it & get some chrome 18's. Then, we'll be in business. Thanks to everyone on this forum for your great help and advice on this purchase. I'll keep you all posted on the progress.
-guillermo
Hello everyone......I JUST BOUGHT MY NEW Brilliant silver 2000 e430 today!!!! Man, its awesome!!! Whitey, now I'm officially part of the family. It took me about 30 mins to find the darn cupholder, but it was well worth it. Now, I've got to just lower it & get some chrome 18's. Then, we'll be in business. Thanks to everyone on this forum for your great help and advice on this purchase. I'll keep you all posted on the progress.
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Whoohoo! That's the way! But chrome rims on a silver car??????..........
Whoohoo! That's the way! But chrome rims on a silver car??????..........
, just Dave's and my opinions. Instead of spending the extra money on the chrome, use it to get some silver or polished 19's... 
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i think chromes will look good with the right tint. imo, if your gonna make a leap from 18's...id skip over 19's and go with the dubbs and not even lower it. Just fill up the wheel well and you will be ridding clean and i would bet that you are not gonna see another car like yours at least in your city.
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Very interesting deucezero........Dubs on my car??? Hmmm...... the reason that interests me is becuase I found out that I cant lower my car. I do have a 4matic & I guess that would screw with the AWD. Not a big deal to me, however the only problem that I would see having is wheelgap.... Has anyone ever put 20's on a 4matic? Would I be able to get away w/ just 18's or 19's 7 still make it look classy w/out lowering it? Thanks again.
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Don't forget you will have to do some modding to your suspension to fit 20's. They don't just bolt right on. There are arms and things in the way. Make sure to do it right or don't do it at all because you will regret it. For the few that have put 20's on their W210's, please elaborate...
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Dubs on a W210 is the worst and most impossible wheels setup to do on a W210. First off, you will have a hard time finding Dubs for a W210. Stick with no bigger than 18". I have an 2002 E55 with 18" and the AMG suspension and I can't imagine the pain of driving with 19" rims and the thought of using 20" would be a nightmare to drive. 20" rims on a W210 is not for daily drivers or areas where roads are not pristine.
The W210 chassis hit the world in 1995 (Europe) and the suspension and wheel wells had no idea that 20" wheels were coming.
The W210 chassis hit the world in 1995 (Europe) and the suspension and wheel wells had no idea that 20" wheels were coming.
? I don't have any "pains" or trouble with mine.
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You are lucky, maybe you live in an area with pristine roads. I live in an urban area. Maybe you cruize and I drive hard and fast. 19" and 20" on a W210 is just for looks and not for performance.
When I drive on bad roads or in the city I wished I had left my car at home. Plus your suspension is not as stiff as mine. 18" and bigger rims on a W210 is not easy to live with. I am being honest and tell people that they change the suppleness of the suspension and makes more rattling. Also big rims and low profile tires are more subceptible to damage, bent rims and flats.
I even once destroyed a 17" rim beyound repair hitting a pothole.
When I drive on bad roads or in the city I wished I had left my car at home. Plus your suspension is not as stiff as mine. 18" and bigger rims on a W210 is not easy to live with. I am being honest and tell people that they change the suppleness of the suspension and makes more rattling. Also big rims and low profile tires are more subceptible to damage, bent rims and flats.
I even once destroyed a 17" rim beyound repair hitting a pothole.
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Originally posted by guillermo
Very interesting deucezero........Dubs on my car??? Hmmm...... the reason that interests me is becuase I found out that I cant lower my car. I do have a 4matic & I guess that would screw with the AWD. Not a big deal to me, however the only problem that I would see having is wheelgap.... Has anyone ever put 20's on a 4matic? Would I be able to get away w/ just 18's or 19's 7 still make it look classy w/out lowering it? Thanks again.
Guillermo
Very interesting deucezero........Dubs on my car??? Hmmm...... the reason that interests me is becuase I found out that I cant lower my car. I do have a 4matic & I guess that would screw with the AWD. Not a big deal to me, however the only problem that I would see having is wheelgap.... Has anyone ever put 20's on a 4matic? Would I be able to get away w/ just 18's or 19's 7 still make it look classy w/out lowering it? Thanks again.
Guillermo
.....Are there any other more cost efficient alternatives?
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Originally posted by E55 KEV
You are lucky, maybe you live in an area with pristine roads. I live in an urban area. Maybe you cruize and I drive hard and fast. 19" and 20" on a W210 is just for looks and not for performance.
When I drive on bad roads or in the city I wished I had left my car at home. Plus your suspension is not as stiff as mine. 18" and bigger rims on a W210 is not easy to live with. I am being honest and tell people that they change the suppleness of the suspension and makes more rattling. Also big rims and low profile tires are more subceptible to damage, bent rims and flats.
I even once destroyed a 17" rim beyound repair hitting a pothole.
You are lucky, maybe you live in an area with pristine roads. I live in an urban area. Maybe you cruize and I drive hard and fast. 19" and 20" on a W210 is just for looks and not for performance.
When I drive on bad roads or in the city I wished I had left my car at home. Plus your suspension is not as stiff as mine. 18" and bigger rims on a W210 is not easy to live with. I am being honest and tell people that they change the suppleness of the suspension and makes more rattling. Also big rims and low profile tires are more subceptible to damage, bent rims and flats.
I even once destroyed a 17" rim beyound repair hitting a pothole.
Regardless, I'm not attacking anyone but just stating my true opinion from the facts of my everyday driving. I wouldn't recommend something if I knew there were going to be problem. To each their own and 18's look great, don't get me wrong, but I prefer the look and handling of 19's and that's precisely what I've stated.
Good luck giullermo and post some pics. of your ride when you have some...
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Jimmy, I'll post pics as soon as I figure out how to. E55 Kev, appreciate all the help. however, i do want to try to lower my ride (if possible). The brabus rep said that it is possible, but i dont want to spend $570 on just springs. just keep me in mind guys if there is anyone out there that has done this w/ a 00' 430 4matic. Thanks again guys.
P.S. It doesnt matter who's suspension is stiffer or who's wheels are bigger.......all that matters is the stud driving it!!!!! Have a great one, guys!
P.S. It doesnt matter who's suspension is stiffer or who's wheels are bigger.......all that matters is the stud driving it!!!!!
Have a great one, guys!
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To each their own and 18's look great, don't get me wrong, but I prefer the look and handling of 19's and that's precisely what I've stated.
To each their own and 18's look great, don't get me wrong, but I prefer the look and handling of 19's and that's precisely what I've stated.
I totally agree Jimmy. However, some sacrifice in ride quality is inevitable........
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I totally agree Jimmy. However, some sacrifice in ride quality is inevitable........
I totally agree Jimmy. However, some sacrifice in ride quality is inevitable........
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I think a lot of people should read & give your post a lot of thought. A lot of people I know (my brother included !!!) go for the look of big wheels & super-cool look, however, they sacrify a lot of ride quality. On top of that, consider the cost of the tire (very expensive, and last as much as 25-30% compare to regular ones), and chance of having your rims bent easily (there's not much air in the tires to absorb roughness from road).
I once sit in an E430 with 18" wheel, the ride was aweful, I feel every rock, bit, and bump from the road. Even when it cruise on the freeway, I felt like the car has no air in tires at all. Similar feeling when sitting in my buddy 350z with 18" wheels. And that's only 18" !!!. That's for the driver, for the passenger, it was torture. And yes, I live in southern Cali, where road condition is from good to very good.
I feel kind of sorry to feel people with ultra-low profile tire have to go over bump or dip at 2 mph. I thought part of owning the car is to enjoy the ride as well, along with the look. How fun is it to have every piece of your bone rock, not to mention dealing with bump and pot-hole as careful as with the IRS audit.
Anything more than 18", to me, is simply for car show only. If you use the car for daily driving, it's soooo not worth it.
I once sit in an E430 with 18" wheel, the ride was aweful, I feel every rock, bit, and bump from the road. Even when it cruise on the freeway, I felt like the car has no air in tires at all. Similar feeling when sitting in my buddy 350z with 18" wheels. And that's only 18" !!!. That's for the driver, for the passenger, it was torture. And yes, I live in southern Cali, where road condition is from good to very good.
I feel kind of sorry to feel people with ultra-low profile tire have to go over bump or dip at 2 mph. I thought part of owning the car is to enjoy the ride as well, along with the look. How fun is it to have every piece of your bone rock, not to mention dealing with bump and pot-hole as careful as with the IRS audit.
Anything more than 18", to me, is simply for car show only. If you use the car for daily driving, it's soooo not worth it.
Originally posted by E55 KEV
You are lucky, maybe you live in an area with pristine roads. I live in an urban area. Maybe you cruize and I drive hard and fast. 19" and 20" on a W210 is just for looks and not for performance.
When I drive on bad roads or in the city I wished I had left my car at home. Plus your suspension is not as stiff as mine. 18" and bigger rims on a W210 is not easy to live with. I am being honest and tell people that they change the suppleness of the suspension and makes more rattling. Also big rims and low profile tires are more subceptible to damage, bent rims and flats.
I even once destroyed a 17" rim beyound repair hitting a pothole.
You are lucky, maybe you live in an area with pristine roads. I live in an urban area. Maybe you cruize and I drive hard and fast. 19" and 20" on a W210 is just for looks and not for performance.
When I drive on bad roads or in the city I wished I had left my car at home. Plus your suspension is not as stiff as mine. 18" and bigger rims on a W210 is not easy to live with. I am being honest and tell people that they change the suppleness of the suspension and makes more rattling. Also big rims and low profile tires are more subceptible to damage, bent rims and flats.
I even once destroyed a 17" rim beyound repair hitting a pothole.
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Originally posted by jimmydagreek
Most definately agree with Dave and with the slight sacrifice in ride softness, there aren't any problems that result from 19's on the car. The speed nor the handling in my opinion is great reduced, especially when you have some ultra-light wheels like Davey boy here, lol...
Most definately agree with Dave and with the slight sacrifice in ride softness, there aren't any problems that result from 19's on the car. The speed nor the handling in my opinion is great reduced, especially when you have some ultra-light wheels like Davey boy here, lol...
zam2000, what tire pressure were those 18" running? I went from the stock 16's, to 17's then 18's, with various widths using 31-34psi. I thought my 18s were a superb balance between ride quality and handling. The 19's sure look and handle much better tho.
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Well, there you have, it all comes down to personal preference. Those who have 18's can comment about their experiences as those who have 19's can comment about theirs and in the end, there will be many different stories. Personally, there isn't anything wrong with 18's or 19's other than some ride comfort issues IMO but it's all once agian, personal preference. My speed and handling have not suffered at all and with the sizes of my tires now, I have not had to worry about any rim damage. To each his own and good luck on all your decisions...
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i have 20's, not on a 4matic. they where the first pair i wanted and got them. they did go right on without modding but the control arms will rub against the inside of the rim when you get the body rolling, wont if you go slow around corners which i do anyway because i like having everyones heads swing my way but anyway, 20's are really not that bad and i will never regret my decesion to get them.
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I appreciate all the good info on the rims. I think I'm gonna bump up to 18's. Do any of you have any idea if Eibach (or anyone else) makes springs to lower a 2000 4matic? I checked on Brabus & they were too steep for my taste.
