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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 10:53 AM
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Axle Compatibility Diesel/Gasoline [Drift Build Inside]

Hiya folks,

I'm just about done build Dapper Drift V2, the W210 successor to my W211 based street car. I wanted to ask you all about the axle interchange.

Mercedes list distinct part numbers for E320/E430/E55 and E300D differential ratios, carrier housing units and CV axles themselves. We all know that diesels had the most aggressive final drive ratios (mine is 3.46:1 and I intend to keep it), and from what I understand, housing were not always 1:1 compatible with various internals.

My question is about the axles themselves. This is a proper drift build and axles are at this point consumables (the differential is fulltime locked), so I really need to identify all possible routes for myself here. I have just exploded the outer CV joint on the factory 240K mile axles the car came with, haha.

In short, and if I understand correctly, this is where we're at:
  • Axle to differential mating interface is identical
  • Axle output splines and thread at the knuckle is identical
  • Axle CV assembly might be different (?)
  • Axle overall length might be different
Essentially, my hypothesis is that it's a different part number due to slightly different housing that ends up changing the effective axle ratio. If this is the case, there are two ways forward for me:
  1. E300D differential is narrower: this means axle reach has to be further. Coupled with the fact that my car is somewhat lowered, I will simply need to machine axle spacers (easy!)
  2. E300D differential is wider: this is perfect and it might work directly as is.
Is there anything else I'm missing?

Some photos for attention and to let everyone know I'm serious.




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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 11:34 AM
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Kyle Bascombe, our resident FCP Euro Mercedes expert thinks it's a matter of lengths due to differential housing differences.

Sounds like I am running a HAG185 whereas the gasoline vehicles use HAG210. Sounds like I will need to machine spacers and it should work reasonably well. I have a spare axle and I will be able to directly compare the two units. Ordered this, GKN is Chinese OEM manufacturer (including VW, IIRC): https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...aft-2103508410

If the smaller housing ends up failing, I will likely upgrade to W210 at which point I will simply have to reflange the output on my single-piece driveshaft, not too bad.
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We ended up confirming that the axles I'm going to are roughly 1/4" shorter, I also confirmed with Seems legit Garage that E36/E46 M3's use 94MM PCD bolt spacing on the axle inputs with what seems to be like identical geometry. I think these things will bolt right up! All the parts are in the mail, will confirm next week. One important difference is I do not see a hall effect sensor ring on the output of these replacement axles, but for my use case it matters not.
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