View Poll Results: Have you found signs of rust or corrosion
No sign of any rust or corrosion
14
42.42%
I have found signs of surface rust
5
15.15%
I have found signs of rust coming from the inside
9
27.27%
I have found suspect bubbles
5
15.15%
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Rust from inside out POLL
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Rust from inside out POLL
I would like every owner of a W210 (car and estate versions) to please take part in this poll.
Have you found any rust bubbles on your car?
Or signs of corrosion coming from inside of the bodywork to the outside?
Thanks very much indeed to everyone that takes part.
John
Have you found any rust bubbles on your car?
Or signs of corrosion coming from inside of the bodywork to the outside?
Thanks very much indeed to everyone that takes part.
John
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A big thank you to those that have taken the time to contribute, but PLEASE could I have more owners take part.
The reason for the poll is that someone has asked my advice about buying a 210. I love Mercedes-Benz, but I have heard some horrible stories about rust effecting this particular model.
Before I give my opinion to a very good friend, I would like to hear of the experiences of as many owners as possible.
Owners that have not had problems are quite clearly those that are most important. Those that have had problems can compare how they are being treated by different dealerships.
No doubt everyone is aware of the European Mobilo Warranty that is given free of charge to all owners of Mercedes-Benz who purchased their vehicles from approximately the last quarter of 1999 onwards.
Rust coming from the inside out is covered for the life of the vehicle (defined by law as 30 years) They have however put in the proviso that the vehicle must be serviced by an authorised Mercedes-Benz dealer. All repairs should be carried out free of charge and a courtesy car supplied for the duration of the repair.
I owned a 210 for three years and there was no signs of corrosion anywhere. (I would not have expected any)
Please, please vote,
John
The reason for the poll is that someone has asked my advice about buying a 210. I love Mercedes-Benz, but I have heard some horrible stories about rust effecting this particular model.
Before I give my opinion to a very good friend, I would like to hear of the experiences of as many owners as possible.
Owners that have not had problems are quite clearly those that are most important. Those that have had problems can compare how they are being treated by different dealerships.
No doubt everyone is aware of the European Mobilo Warranty that is given free of charge to all owners of Mercedes-Benz who purchased their vehicles from approximately the last quarter of 1999 onwards.
Rust coming from the inside out is covered for the life of the vehicle (defined by law as 30 years) They have however put in the proviso that the vehicle must be serviced by an authorised Mercedes-Benz dealer. All repairs should be carried out free of charge and a courtesy car supplied for the duration of the repair.
I owned a 210 for three years and there was no signs of corrosion anywhere. (I would not have expected any)
Please, please vote,
John
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I've just bought my first Merc, a fully loaded '97 E320 V6 with full MB service history (although actually I already had another Merc on order since April '04 which is due late this year). I haven't picked the E320 up yet, but I will have a good look at it when I get it. I didn't notice anything when I looked at it before sale, but often you don't truly see minor imperfections until the first time you hand wash a car. Anyway, I'll vote next week.
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Originally Posted by steve-p
I've just bought my first Merc, a fully loaded '97 E320 V6 with full MB service history (although actually I already had another Merc on order since April '04 which is due late this year). I haven't picked the E320 up yet, but I will have a good look at it when I get it. I didn't notice anything when I looked at it before sale, but often you don't truly see minor imperfections until the first time you hand wash a car. Anyway, I'll vote next week.
Thanks very much indeed. If you are not aware of where to look then please try a search for either 'rust' or 'corrosion' on this very informative forum.
Regards,
John
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I have a 96 and have not seen any signs of any rust.
However, I never really looked for rust either.
Is there any specific places to look for it?
For those with rust, what areas are you seeing it?
I will check those areas.
However, I never really looked for rust either.
Is there any specific places to look for it?
For those with rust, what areas are you seeing it?
I will check those areas.
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Originally Posted by OceanView
I have a 96 and have not seen any signs of any rust.
However, I never really looked for rust either.
Is there any specific places to look for it?
For those with rust, what areas are you seeing it?
I will check those areas.
However, I never really looked for rust either.
Is there any specific places to look for it?
For those with rust, what areas are you seeing it?
I will check those areas.
The most common places are underneath the rubber seals for all for doors and the boot area, rear number plate.
If you do aa 'Advanced' search solely on this forum you will find quite a few posts on this subject.
Good luck,
John
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So far so good...
I've a 2001 e320 wagon with no rust yet. I've looked at the easily viewable suspect places and so far so good. I'm in Toronto, a climate favourable for tin worm. Snowfall followed by days of above-freezing weather that allows cars to bathe in a nice sloppy salt mixture. Cars clean the roads around here.
I've had the car thoroughly Rust Checked - an annual light-liquid treatment that I've had great success with on other cars. I hope it continues with this one as I enjoy the car.
I'd be interested in other northerner’s experience with rust protection products/techniques.
I've had the car thoroughly Rust Checked - an annual light-liquid treatment that I've had great success with on other cars. I hope it continues with this one as I enjoy the car.
I'd be interested in other northerner’s experience with rust protection products/techniques.
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2014 E550 4matic,, sold 2012 E 350 4matic,,sold 2010 e350 4w,sold 2002 e320 se
I found rust bubbles on the trunk,around the license plate area,and on the front right door under the moulding directly down from the mirror.Dealer painted both areas.Im seeing nothing under the door seals,yet.
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Another 'rust free' 210 in Southern California...
at least for now. This discussion had me concerned enough to go out in the dark with a flashlight, but I nervously waited until morning to make certain I didn't miss any evidence.
For now, there doesn't appear to be ANY sight of rust that can be seen without the car on a lift.
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For now, there doesn't appear to be ANY sight of rust that can be seen without the car on a lift.
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This poll is causing me concern. Is it possible that members are voting for more than one category?
I blame myself if they are.
If anyone has voted more than once could you please let me know otherwise it is running at just under two thirds of 210's have problems?
Thanks again for all your help.
John
I blame myself if they are.
If anyone has voted more than once could you please let me know otherwise it is running at just under two thirds of 210's have problems?
Thanks again for all your help.
John
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I have just heard of a UK owner that has a December 2001 registered vehicle and found rust around the rear door seals.
PLEASE, if you have not voted, put a 'dot' in the relevant box.
The results so far are an 'eye opener'
A BIG thank you to every one that has voted,
John
PLEASE, if you have not voted, put a 'dot' in the relevant box.
The results so far are an 'eye opener'
A BIG thank you to every one that has voted,
John
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OK glojo, after seeing your pleas, I've just voted (NIL signs of rust). However, I truly believe, as someone has said, it depends on where you are and also how much time one has spent on maintaining the vehicle.
I see you're in the UK, where I understand in most parts is wet alot of the time (particularly the North - was in Darlington recently and it rained every frigging day!). If you're near the coast its even worst with the salt from the sea...etc. Don't forget the acidity of the rain - the acidity can vary tremedously between different parts of the world. Also for those who have bought their cars used, who knows, the ex-owner might have done rust-proofing etc. etc. Some of us are very religious in waxing our cars and that might help prevent rust too........
Time to stop rambling on
. I know this has not helped but I do hope you will be able to draw some sort of conclusion from all this.....hopefully more UK owners will respond...hey Paki, where are you????? Good luck!
I see you're in the UK, where I understand in most parts is wet alot of the time (particularly the North - was in Darlington recently and it rained every frigging day!). If you're near the coast its even worst with the salt from the sea...etc. Don't forget the acidity of the rain - the acidity can vary tremedously between different parts of the world. Also for those who have bought their cars used, who knows, the ex-owner might have done rust-proofing etc. etc. Some of us are very religious in waxing our cars and that might help prevent rust too........
Time to stop rambling on
. I know this has not helped but I do hope you will be able to draw some sort of conclusion from all this.....hopefully more UK owners will respond...hey Paki, where are you????? Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Whitey
I see you're in the UK, where I understand in most parts is wet alot of the time (particularly the North - was in Darlington recently and it rained every frigging day!).
Hi Whitey,
Thank you very much indeed for your response, the great majority of contributors are US based, so perhaps your observations might not apply, but that is totally irrelevant. I am simply after as many responses as possible.
I understand your points about our dreadful smog and acid rain,
but luckily they are 'slightly' inaccurate.Strange as it may seem, this problem is only manifesting itself in the one very specific model The 210!! All other models appear immune from our 'toxic' atmosphere.
Because of the area in which the rust is located I would be pointing the finger at Mercedes-Benz and not the lazy owners who cannot be bothered to wash the car from one year to the next
(This is my humour coming to the surface) The places where the rust is usually located is not really in locations that are regularly washed and polished by 'Mr Average owner'I accept that you might lift the rubber seals around the doors and then wash and polish the exposed area, but if I put my hand on my heart, I would have to confess that it is not an area that I regularly pay that much attention to.
I would love to know why much older Mercedes-Benz are not suffering (in our corrosive smog and acid rain location) nor are the A, C, S, ML and V-class showing such terrible signs of corrosion. It is just the one model?
Please, please do not think I am having a dig at you from behind my smog bound keyboard
ALL votes from ALL countries are most welcome. Even Scotland Take care,
Thanks again,
John
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Originally Posted by glojo
Hi Whitey,
Thank you very much indeed for your response, the great majority of contributors are US based, so perhaps your observations might not apply, but that is totally irrelevant. I am simply after as many responses as possible.
I understand your points about our dreadful smog and acid rain, but luckily they are 'slightly' inaccurate.
Strange as it may seem, this problem is only manifesting itself in the one very specific model The 210!! All other models appear immune from our 'toxic' atmosphere.
Because of the area in which the rust is located I would be pointing the finger at Mercedes-Benz and not the lazy owners who cannot be bothered to wash the car from one year to the next (This is my humour coming to the surface) The places where the rust is usually located is not really in locations that are regularly washed and polished by 'Mr Average owner'
I accept that you might lift the rubber seals around the doors and then wash and polish the exposed area, but if I put my hand on my heart, I would have to confess that it is not an area that I regularly pay that much attention to.
I would love to know why much older Mercedes-Benz are not suffering (in our corrosive smog and acid rain location) nor are the A, C, S, ML and V-class showing such terrible signs of corrosion. It is just the one model?
Please, please do not think I am having a dig at you from behind my smog bound keyboard ALL votes from ALL countries are most welcome. Even Scotland
Take care,
Thanks again,
John
Thank you very much indeed for your response, the great majority of contributors are US based, so perhaps your observations might not apply, but that is totally irrelevant. I am simply after as many responses as possible.
I understand your points about our dreadful smog and acid rain,
but luckily they are 'slightly' inaccurate.Strange as it may seem, this problem is only manifesting itself in the one very specific model The 210!! All other models appear immune from our 'toxic' atmosphere.
Because of the area in which the rust is located I would be pointing the finger at Mercedes-Benz and not the lazy owners who cannot be bothered to wash the car from one year to the next
(This is my humour coming to the surface) The places where the rust is usually located is not really in locations that are regularly washed and polished by 'Mr Average owner'I accept that you might lift the rubber seals around the doors and then wash and polish the exposed area, but if I put my hand on my heart, I would have to confess that it is not an area that I regularly pay that much attention to.
I would love to know why much older Mercedes-Benz are not suffering (in our corrosive smog and acid rain location) nor are the A, C, S, ML and V-class showing such terrible signs of corrosion. It is just the one model?
Please, please do not think I am having a dig at you from behind my smog bound keyboard
ALL votes from ALL countries are most welcome. Even Scotland Take care,
Thanks again,
John
You're right, there seems to be a pattern in where the rust resides....hell, you got me worried now, I better go lift up the rubber seals and do a thorough check tomorrow! Hopefully mine came out of a different factory to everyone else who's had problems, hence the problems won't apply.........fingers crossed
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Originally Posted by Whitey
You're right, there seems to be a pattern in where the rust resides....hell, you got me worried now, I better go lift up the rubber seals and do a thorough check tomorrow! Hopefully mine came out of a different factory to everyone else who's had problems, hence the problems won't apply.........fingers crossed
This is a copy of two messages from the same owner. Firstly when he thought his car was okay, and the second.....
My '51' 210 estate does not seem to have any rust yet... Are there any particular places I should be looking? Otherwise a great car all round. The kids love it in the boot :-)
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As per your suggestions, I have just found rust under the rubber door seals on both rear doors of my Dec 2001 estate... Not major but orangey and some paint bubbling... I will probably wait a few months until the next service. cheers XXX
Hopefully yours will be okay,
Good luck,
John
