Spy pics of updated E-Class?
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Nice job on the pictures! I think this is the S for a few reasons. First, a mid model refreshening is usually headlights and taillights with maybe another small enhancement or so. This one has new side mirrors, new rear headrests, new rear antenna placement, etc. I think it is a little drastic. Next, I don't believe they typically camo the cars during a refresh since the changes are so minor. They typically just release it (especially in the states). Finally, the timing couldn't be better for the new S. I think this is the sneak peek for the dealership in the background of one of those pictures...
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Also think it is the S...due out this year. If it was an E facelift, I don't think the E350 would have labeled an '06. The E is due for a major rework in '09, so an '07 revision would only be for 2 years.
That said, it does look like MB is installing a an MB look with CLS like headlights in the new S and C classes. The new E will probably do the same. And unlike previous generations (W210 vs E39), with the new engines (V8s with the new S), MB doesn't appear to be giving up much if anything in driveline (engine, transmission) sophistication and performance to BMW for the first time I can remember.
That said, it does look like MB is installing a an MB look with CLS like headlights in the new S and C classes. The new E will probably do the same. And unlike previous generations (W210 vs E39), with the new engines (V8s with the new S), MB doesn't appear to be giving up much if anything in driveline (engine, transmission) sophistication and performance to BMW for the first time I can remember.
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For those thinking this is the S, you have raised some valid reasons. Although I don't see much difference in the antenna and rear head rests? They very well could have the fender flare concealed under that gray treatment also. The trunkline is consistent with the new S shots I have seen so you all may be right.
But, remember in the past the E was a best seller and they never had to do much in a facelift. At this point in time E sales are down bigtime and they may feel they have to do more than just the cosmetic facelift done in the past.
Regardless...the 4 eyes will go either in the facelift or the next major update.
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But, remember in the past the E was a best seller and they never had to do much in a facelift. At this point in time E sales are down bigtime and they may feel they have to do more than just the cosmetic facelift done in the past.
Regardless...the 4 eyes will go either in the facelift or the next major update.
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Mercedes all the way!
definitely the new s-class. it's almost inconceivable they'd put a new bootlid on a "facelifted" car. although the fender flares aren't there, and the headlights look a little smaller than in the previous pictures, it's probably just the masking tape playing with us.
i like that sharp line down the side! looking forward to seeing this thing unmasked
i like that sharp line down the side! looking forward to seeing this thing unmasked
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That car can be found at the Vehicle Prep Center on Watsoncenter road in Carson, CA. That's where all the "5506" cars originate from. Anyone live nearby there?
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Originally Posted by dacbiet
That car can be found at the Vehicle Prep Center on Watsoncenter road in Carson, CA. That's where all the "5506" cars originate from. Anyone live nearby there?
I see about 50-100 new MB's a day driving past my neighborhood that come from that center. I am sure I'll see this one real soon and then I can get some additional shots and give my opinion on the size.
Btw, thanks for the pics Joe. Good work!
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There is an emissions lab located within the VPC that performs several types of emissions related tests; they work pretty close with the SCAQMD. That VPC is also used as a base for some endurance tests that are conducted in Death Valley and other hot areas. Years ago, don't know if they still do this, but they did some limited testing on European-spec cars there as well. They would fly the cars over on a Lufthansa 747 cargo, do some tests, and send the cars to the crusher when finished.
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Great shots
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Thanks for the scoop. I think the guys at Autoweek would be interested in your shots - they look as good, if not better, than some of the spy pics Hidden Image comes out with from time to time. (The Hidden Image guys seem to focus (pun intended) on long telephoto shots of stationary cars that don't require the bravado of highway speed over the shoulder shooting.)
As to the E vs S debate my sense is the car is too short to be the new S, but then again there is a short wheelbase version of the S that they sell in Europe (possibly the new for the US 2006 S350 as well?). Lack of the S Class fender flares noted above is the most critical clue to suggesting the vehicle to be an E since that body disguise looks cosmetic leaving the sheetmetal intact.
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I saw similar car in NYC on Tuesday looking down from a third floor window in midtown. Driver was kind enough to be stopped at a light so I could gawk for a while. Looked to be too large for an "E" unless MB is lengthening out the new model. Same backend as your spies (couldn't see the front of the car from my angle). Thought is was an Infinity proto at first with the tail-light treatment. But your grill picture is definetly MB (or KIA knockoff).
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Originally Posted by Samoan_Ridah
Just noticed those wheels look like they might be 19's or possibly even 20's. Also, nice wide tires in the rear.
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I think this is the new S-class as well. Check this out: http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/m...16/photos.html
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Great job, EDJ!! I also thought it was the E-Class until I looked at the photos in intrinsico's link to edmunds.com. Looks definitely like what they are calling the 2006 S-Class. Nice to see it with the pano roof finally, intrinsico!
I still prefer the lines of the E-Class over this.
Also, I bought my car at Mercedes-Benz of Long Beach, so thanks for the photo, EDJ.
I still prefer the lines of the E-Class over this.
Also, I bought my car at Mercedes-Benz of Long Beach, so thanks for the photo, EDJ.
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The car looks quite similar to current shape Mercedes-Benz. I thought the new S-class was going to be a completely different looking vehicle.
With the cars registration number does not offer any information as to date of registration etc?
Our number plates denote the local area here the vehicle was registered, plus what year, and part of the year.
I would expect lots of pictures from Europe of the new vehicle, evenif they were just going for export??
I must be getting very cynical in my old age!
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A very windy overcast morning in Torquay (Today we have some 'Tall ships' anchored in the bay, and the web camera has beem moved to include one of the schooners)
With the cars registration number does not offer any information as to date of registration etc?
Our number plates denote the local area here the vehicle was registered, plus what year, and part of the year.
I would expect lots of pictures from Europe of the new vehicle, evenif they were just going for export??
I must be getting very cynical in my old age!
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A very windy overcast morning in Torquay (Today we have some 'Tall ships' anchored in the bay, and the web camera has beem moved to include one of the schooners)
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I hope those wheel arches look better in real life then the photos otherwise that is one UGLY front end. In fact, the more I look at it, the more BLAND it looks.
What happened to Mercedes? The CLS looks slab sided and the new S looks ugly in some parts. Even the M gets a "decent" rating and not much more. The Mercedes designer did great with the E and then pffffffft. They must be like those insects that die after having sex.![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
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What happened to Mercedes? The CLS looks slab sided and the new S looks ugly in some parts. Even the M gets a "decent" rating and not much more. The Mercedes designer did great with the E and then pffffffft. They must be like those insects that die after having sex.
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Originally Posted by glojo
The car looks quite similar to current shape Mercedes-Benz. I thought the new S-class was going to be a completely different looking vehicle.
With the cars registration number does not offer any information as to date of registration etc?
Our number plates denote the local area here the vehicle was registered, plus what year, and part of the year.
I would expect lots of pictures from Europe of the new vehicle, evenif they were just going for export??
I must be getting very cynical in my old age!
Regards,
John
A very windy overcast morning in Torquay (Today we have some 'Tall ships' anchored in the bay, and the web camera has beem moved to include one of the schooners)
With the cars registration number does not offer any information as to date of registration etc?
Our number plates denote the local area here the vehicle was registered, plus what year, and part of the year.
I would expect lots of pictures from Europe of the new vehicle, evenif they were just going for export??
I must be getting very cynical in my old age!
Regards,
John
A very windy overcast morning in Torquay (Today we have some 'Tall ships' anchored in the bay, and the web camera has beem moved to include one of the schooners)
I still am suspicious that this is not the S but the face lifted E but there has been much put forward to debate that.
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Originally Posted by etenn
I am not sure that I like it. How did it look in person, Joe?
It doesn't look like a MB.
How do you take pictures behind you while driving?![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
It doesn't look like a MB.
How do you take pictures behind you while driving?
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Has anyone wondered if instead of doing a facelift on the current E, they eliminate it and go directly to a new version and introduce it as a 2007 model late next year? It seems to me that if the next date for a total revision of the E Class in scheduled for 2008 or2009, it would not be at this stage of development in 2005.
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
Has anyone wondered if instead of doing a facelift on the current E, they eliminate it and go directly to a new version and introduce it as a 2007 model late next year? It seems to me that if the next date for a total revision of the E Class in scheduled for 2008 or2009, it would not be at this stage of development in 2005.
B.T.W..... I thought the picture Jakpro1 posted was already identfied as photoshoped.
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What appeals to my sense of humour is the fact that no other site is taking this seriously. I personally think it is a revised verion of the A-class, but then again......
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Originally Posted by glojo
What appeals to my sense of humour is the fact that no other site is taking this seriously. I personally think it is a revised verion of the A-class, but then again......
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Hi John
Nice to see you posting here again!
Take a look at GermanCarFans or CarySpyShots sites and you will see that they have been following this car for months. It is for sure the new W221 S Class.
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Hi John
Nice to see you posting here again!
Take a look at GermanCarFans or CarySpyShots sites and you will see that they have been following this car for months. It is for sure the new W221 S Class.
Nice to see you posting here again!
Take a look at GermanCarFans or CarySpyShots sites and you will see that they have been following this car for months. It is for sure the new W221 S Class.
Thanks very much for the link, I just hope that they actually make an estate car for a change.
You sure are a kill joy
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