E-Class (W211) 2003-2009

WSJ: Daimler Aims to Revive E-Class

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 09:45 AM
  #1  
TPAbnz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 996
Likes: 16
From: Tampa, Florida
2017 E300W
WSJ: Daimler Aims to Revive E-Class

Today's Wall Street Journal had the above headline (which I assume reflects the facelift and brake changes). A part of the article said:

DalmlerChrysler AG's Klaus Maier, head of sales at the company's Mercedes Car Group division, said the company is preparing its Mercedes E-Class model for a comeback this year.

“2006 will be the year of the E-Class,” Mr. Maier said during the North American International Auto Show.

The E-Class will he revamped in the first half of the year, Mr. Mater said. Sales figures for one of Mercedes' key models fell by 8.8% to 261,900 in 2005 from 287,100 in 2004, as the car was one of the main models affected by the biggest recall in the company’s history. The recall in the spring of 2005 affected 1.3 million cars.

"You can't make people forget something like that overnight,” Mr. Mater said. He also cited the model's life cycle as a reason for declining sales. Mr. Maier said he expects car sales in 2006 at Mercedes to come in around last year's level.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:05 PM
  #2  
DWP's Avatar
DWP
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,586
Likes: 1
From: Sacramento
'08 AM Vantage V8 - '03 E500
Page D-6, well-hidden.

I wasn't aware that the E-Class was in need of resuscitation. A decline of 9% in sales in the third year of a model cycle doesn't necessarily mean that something is broken and needs to be fixed. It could just be, as Mr. Maier suggests, "the model's life cycle." Herr Maier may be concerned about relative as well as absolute sales numbers, though. If the E-class is doing less well than other M-B models (which the rest of the article indicates) and especially if sales of that woofer, the E60 5-Series, are on a par with the W211, I can see why he would be talking up this year's refresh.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 03:12 PM
  #3  
mb808's Avatar
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Perhaps the sales (number of vehicles sold) might be in line for the 3rd year in a life cycle. However, more importantly, need to look at the transaction prices and cost of sales. Based on some of the threads here, seems like the E-Class (all variants) are being sold at either invoice or well below invoice. Plus, all the recall and warrenty costs.

That's part of the reason for the need to resucitate the E-Class

Originally Posted by DWP
Page D-6, well-hidden.

I wasn't aware that the E-Class was in need of resuscitation. A decline of 9% in sales in the third year of a model cycle doesn't necessarily mean that something is broken and needs to be fixed. It could just be, as Mr. Maier suggests, "the model's life cycle." Herr Maier may be concerned about relative as well as absolute sales numbers, though. If the E-class is doing less well than other M-B models (which the rest of the article indicates) and especially if sales of that woofer, the E60 5-Series, are on a par with the W211, I can see why he would be talking up this year's refresh.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 09:42 PM
  #4  
slk55lvr's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mb808
Perhaps the sales (number of vehicles sold) might be in line for the 3rd year in a life cycle. However, more importantly, need to look at the transaction prices and cost of sales. Based on some of the threads here, seems like the E-Class (all variants) are being sold at either invoice or well below invoice. Plus, all the recall and warrenty costs.

That's part of the reason for the need to resucitate the E-Class

You hit the nail on the head. During the annual winter sale the e-class was selling for 7-9 k below msrp in some cases. This is what you do with 05 Lincoln Continentals, and it isn't pretty. This car is due for a major upgrade if it's going to compete with the new m45, lexus, Audi's, etc.

Might be a darn good time to up the reliability rankings as well. That had to have an enormous effect on this cars prices.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 12:13 PM
  #5  
luxury1's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 583
Likes: 0
From: Pittsburgh, PA
There have been a lot of nice releases since our W211 came out. This past week I had my wifes Lexus in for service and they gave me a brand new IS250 AWD as a loaner. This car was fantastic, felt solid, had great technology, it was very comfortable and was priced in the $30's. Mercedes has been heading in the wrong direction with the decontenting when other less expensive cars are adding technology and quickly closing the gap. MB needs to start adding technology again or they are going to find themselves losing much more than 9% of the market.

That said, I love my car and have no plans to trade it but this refresh needs to be significant.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 12:24 PM
  #6  
lig's Avatar
lig
Super Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 957
Likes: 1
was '03 E320 - now - '04 S4
I like the new IS quite a lot. Had a spot on the IS350 waiting list until they confirmed that there would be no manual transmission on the 350 - only available on the 250.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:26 PM
  #7  
aceman's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 528
Likes: 5
E500 4matic, 2014 GL320, 2013 C300, 2015 Stingray
my situation

I was looking at the Audi A6 4.2, M45, and Caddy STS [i'm not a bmw fan]. All 3 were in the 50s. I ended up w/ a E500 4matic w/ nav&sirius [added later] for 56500. At that price point, i think the car is a great buy, and the others added amenities take a hit when you think about the fact that you can get a v8 benz for a few grand more (so be it with a few less toyz). My dad is in the market for a car this spring and i'm going to tell him to hold off till the E gets revamped - i'm real curious to see what they do for this freshening.

Aceman
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 04:45 PM
  #8  
ima55r2's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 11
From: Treasure Coast
2018 Mclaren 720s, 2021 Aston Martin DBX
E sales are also dropping due to the CLS, which could be considered an E-class re-skin. With the CLS new sheetmetal and interior trim, combined sales off the same platform are probably higher than before.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Mercedes-AMG SUVs Arrive With NEW V8 Engine: 12 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

 
story-4

7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 11, 2006 | 06:59 PM
  #9  
PHYBENZ's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 572
Likes: 1
1963 220Sb
The other reason they see sales as slipping is because for the first time in a very long time the E class in europe was outsold by both the A6 and 5 series, which as said basically never happens.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:31 AM.

story-0
New Mercedes-AMG SUVs Arrive With NEW V8 Engine: 12 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's updated GLE 63 S and GLS 63 bring a new-generation V8, subtle design revisions, and familiar supercar-rivaling performance figures.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-17 12:52:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

Slideshow: Mercedes has never been afraid to experiment, and some of its strangest ideas turned out to be surprisingly successful.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 17:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-2
Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

Sideshow: A Middle Eastern tuner has transformed the Mercedes-AMG G 63 into an open-top special, replacing nearly every exterior panel in the process.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 15:29:50


VIEW MORE
story-3
Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

Slideshow: Six gift ideas your AMG loving dad or grad will cherish.

By | 2026-06-03 17:26:18


VIEW MORE
story-4
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

Slideshow: Sometimes AMG builds fast sedans. Other times, it builds twin-turbo V12 land missiles and six-wheeled off-road monsters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 17:59:58


VIEW MORE
story-5
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-7
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE