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Old 01-20-2007, 03:37 PM
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Question about this picture of the rear of a 2004 wagon...

Hey fellas. Here's a picture of a wagon I'm looking to buy. Notice that on the rear driver-side of the back storage area has a storage nook with a net. Other wagons don't have this storage nook--instead they have a cover there. Why is this? What else can go there?
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:38 PM
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Like this one...it has no storage net:

Old 01-20-2007, 03:39 PM
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Also, what is this large plastic thing?

Old 01-20-2007, 03:43 PM
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Does one have navigation and the other not have navigation? I believe that's where the DVD drive for navigation goes. My non-navigation sedan has the same nook (with no net).
Old 01-20-2007, 03:45 PM
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Yes, the one with no nook has Nav. That may be it. Any idea what that large plastic thing is?
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Originally Posted by Hecdog_2
Any idea what that large plastic thing is?
It's a cargo storage box to store smaller items.
Old 01-20-2007, 04:04 PM
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Thanks!

Here's a question about value of 2 wagons.

The first one is a 2004, base model, with rear shades. $23,500. 69k miles

The second is a 2004, loaded with nav, vented seats, wood steering, power hatch...$29,9k. 54k miles

what do you think?
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They're both less expensive than what I've been seeing. Do they come with a MBUSA CPO warranty (certified pre owned)?
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no, neither wagon does...
Old 01-20-2007, 04:54 PM
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All things being equal, the more loaded one will be much more fun. Are they from a private dealer or an MB dealers used car dept. Have you checked the carfax, have you asked an MB dealer to pull their service records up on his computer & tell you what he sees?
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i believe that the large storage area when the third row is used. This way, you can store things out of sight and still have kids sitting back there. maybe, the owner lost the storage thingy??

as for the side storage with net, i think the nav used up that place.

also for your info, there is a storage net on the front passenger side center console when the car is not 4matic.

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Thanks guys. Both cars are from brokers. The lower priced one has had a minor fender bender and was prev. registered in a flood zone--but no flood damage.
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One more question, if the wagon has the rear shades, what else does that package come with?
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The plastic storage box should be installed with its opening toward the front of the car. The carpeted side should face the rear. This is a hidden compartment that can be accessed by folding the second seat forward.
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Go it. Thanks!

What about the rear-shades? Does it indicate that the car came with more options, or was it a stand alone upgrade?

I'm going to see the more loaded wagon tomorrow morning...
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it means nothing, you can prolly purchase the shade from the dealer... 98-05 MLs also have a shade...
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Go it. Thanks!

What about the rear-shades? Does it indicate that the car came with more options, or was it a stand alone upgrade?

I'm going to see the more loaded wagon tomorrow morning...
the sunshade comes in the sunroof option (sunroof package on '04) on the wagon. while it is true that the previous owner might have bought the shade after delivery, he would have to buy the door panel with the cutout to accommodate the shade. the cost would be too much.
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Originally Posted by thegeneraltso
the sunshade comes in the sunroof option (sunroof package on '04) on the wagon. while it is true that the previous owner might have bought the shade after delivery, he would have to buy the door panel with the cutout to accommodate the shade. the cost would be too much.
are you sure it attaches to the 5th door? I believe it attaches to the back pillars of the car...
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are you sure it attaches to the 5th door? I believe it attaches to the back pillars of the car...
I don't know what you mean by the fifth door. there is no sunshade on the hatch window. they are use in the rear two doors (i hope i understood your question).

or do you mean the cargo shade? that is a standard feature on the wagon. it is on rails on the back pillar of the wagon so when you open the hatch, it rises along the rails and when you close the hatch, it goes down to cover the cargo area. is this the rear shade you refer to?

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I don't know what you mean by the fifth door. there is no sunshade on the hatch window. they are use in the rear two doors (i hope i understood your question).

or do you mean the cargo shade? that is a standard feature on the wagon. it is on rails on the back pillar of the wagon so when you open the hatch, it rises along the rails and when you close the hatch, it goes down to cover the cargo area. is this the rear shade you refer to?
Thanks for the clarification. I was indeed referring to the shades on the rear doors, not to to the rear hatch).

Saw the wagon today and it seems very clean, I don't understand all the controls for the vented seats and lumbar stuff...

If it has 54k miles, when's the next service due and how much should I expect to pay?
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Originally Posted by Hecdog_2
Thanks for the clarification. I was indeed referring to the shades on the rear doors, not to to the rear hatch).

Saw the wagon today and it seems very clean, I don't understand all the controls for the vented seats and lumbar stuff...

If it has 54k miles, when's the next service due and how much should I expect to pay?
press the button on the steering wheel and you will see when the next service is due. i don't have that many miles on mine so i cannot tell you the cost.

however, since you will be buying it "previously enjoyed," i would recommend have all the fluid change so at least you know the starting point of the car.
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Originally Posted by Hecdog_2
Hey fellas. Here's a picture of a wagon I'm looking to buy. Notice that on the rear driver-side of the back storage area has a storage nook with a net. Other wagons don't have this storage nook--instead they have a cover there. Why is this? What else can go there?
Hmmmm.... our 2004 4matic wagon also has that net on the left-hand side, due to lack of navi drive.

However, we also have a net on the rear right-hand side, directly opposite the left-hand one shown. What option is our car missing that would go in place of our right-hand netting?
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In October, I purchased an 04 wagon with Nav, Sunroof, Sound package, Keyless Go and the Phone with voice command...had 47K miles, was MB CPO and bought from a local MB dealer...The car was a local trade and I talked to the original owner... Paid 29K and bought an additional aftermarket 48 mo 48K mile for about $2,500...

Make sure you get a VMI for the car and take it to a MB indie mechanic...Make sure he does a "short test" for you...this will help determine the current state of the car and all it's systems...

Steer clear of a car that has had numerous electrical warranty repairs...My car had a few minor repairs and the recalls and TSB's done...but other than that a clean car.

Be weary of some broker cars...they are usually bought at auction...which ususally means the car sat somewhere for a while...Check the car fax and note the times and miles at each change of ownership...

Regarding the questions on the rear...The left side of the car houses the nav and satelite modules...the right side has the H/K subwoofer... The storage compartment openings face the front of the car...Access for it is by folding down the back seats...The storage compartment is generally for the storing the cargo system components, but can be used for other stuff as well...I have mine out of the car.

Look thru the forum...there is a link for an on line interactive owner's manual...it is for a EU delivered car, but it has most of the info for features found in your car...

Good luck! There are not alot of Wagon owners out there, but I love it more that my SUV...I get 27 MPG on the highway and my daughter loves the third seat in back

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Regarding the questions on the rear...The left side of the car houses the nav and satelite modules...the right side has the H/K subwoofer...
Ahah... I don't have Logic7, so no HK subwoofer. I can only presume that the stock subwoofer (IF there is one) must be much smaller (if my wagon has that extra storage space [that a wagon with the HK subwoofer does not]).
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Look thru the forum...there is a link for an on line interactive owner's manual...it is for a EU delivered car, but it has most of the info for features found in your car...
If you sign up for "Owners Online" at mbusa.com, you can get an online users manual for your USA-delivered W211.


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