FSS Gone in the '07s?
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FSS Gone in the '07s?
I understand that the FSS service indicator system is gone in the '07s. It was "flexible" because it used multiple sensors and computer input/thruput to determine when certain services were reccomended.
How is service being reccomended now? Is it just by mileage? If so, why did they seemingly change to a less accurate schedule?
How is service being reccomended now? Is it just by mileage? If so, why did they seemingly change to a less accurate schedule?
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Its miles and calender time related. Begins at 13000 miles, does not change for driving type and I believe the calender time is 1 and a half years.
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Another addition to the decontenting list, oops, pardon my language, the simplification and increased reliability list.
To be semi-fair, the FSS on our '03 simply recommends service at one-year intervals. We drive only about 8,000 miles/year, and not very hard, and so the FSS is triggered by time before it can be triggered by miles or driving style. The FSS may read, say, 7,582 miles to the next service one day, and then next day, when it reaches 11 months from the previous service, it starts counting down the days to the next service.
To be semi-fair, the FSS on our '03 simply recommends service at one-year intervals. We drive only about 8,000 miles/year, and not very hard, and so the FSS is triggered by time before it can be triggered by miles or driving style. The FSS may read, say, 7,582 miles to the next service one day, and then next day, when it reaches 11 months from the previous service, it starts counting down the days to the next service.
Last edited by DWP; Feb 8, 2007 at 11:20 PM.
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I am ALL FOR simplification and increased reliability in the 211's Boys... Is it gone world wide or only in N.America?
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Thats correct, with the FSS as I had in my 01 W210 it was a year but with my 05 without the FSS it was 1 1/2 years. I am expecting that with my 06 ML500 it will be 1 1/2 years also and with the 02 ML500 with the FSS it was also a year. However the mileage started at 10000 on the FSS cars while on the new non FSS cars it begins at 13000. I also understand that some of the euro and elsewhere cars still have the FSS but I am not certain.
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My MB booklet/brochure says FSS was gone from MY05 onward. It also says "With the Mercedes-Benz Maintenance System, the service intervals are all fixed and predictable - they're every 13,000 miles or one year (10,000 miles or one year for AMG models)."
But this is in general, and doesn't say for specific models.
But this is in general, and doesn't say for specific models.
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I am not aware of any problems with the FSS. I believe the change was made to simplify the maintenence requirements and standardize them. I also believe that MB and Mobile Oil tests have proven that the oil/filter/etc can go further between changes with no variation for the type of driving. I don't think they would have done this without solid engineering proof that it is not going to adversly effect longevity of the vehicle or relaibility.
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FSS was eliminated as part of MB's idea that it would increase JD power scores. They said a lot of complaints came from the variable service intervals and unpredictability.
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They probably removed it as it would come up as a Malfunction if you went over and I am sure a lot of people would say that "the car was always malfunctioning" due to the screen.
I think it is a great system.
I would rather my car to the new sparse car anyday.. I am having doubts about buying a new one in '09 or '10 due to these decontented items..
I think it is a great system.
I would rather my car to the new sparse car anyday.. I am having doubts about buying a new one in '09 or '10 due to these decontented items..
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FSS went away at the same time as free maintenance; perhaps MB felt that if service is on the customers' dime, they would prefer a more standard schedule. (And could therefore be related to JD Power satisfaction surveys.)
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Like I've said... I'm ALL FOR being a satisfied customer!
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When I had my '98 w210 I received several letters from MB re this and a recommendation to start using synthetic oil.
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The engine/sludge damage, iirc, was mainly caused because conventional oil was used, not entirely because of the FSS.
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MBUSA website for owners states that for my 2006 E500 oil change interval is 1 year or 13000 mile whichever occurs first. I bought a maintenance contract from my dealer and they initially refused to change the oil before 13000 mile. I brought in a copy of the recommended service from MB owners site and after a lot of moaning, they changed the oil at 13 months and 7000 miles under the contract.
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For the right reasons. If you don't follow the FSS, you can't blame the car as being a malfunctioning machine due to you going over, which it appears is what is happening with these people who are filling out the survey.
