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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Memory seat going to setting with key in?

We have an 03 E500 and this is my wife's car. It was at the dealer yesterday and I told them exactly what she said,, the seat would not take the memory. Well they checked it out and said all was ok.

However on getting home She further defined the problem to be:

The seat will take the memory but will not return to her position when she gets back in the car and inserts the key. She always has to push button #1 to get it in position.

So,, we read the manual and verified the memory seats are set to key dependant ON.

But the seats still won't go to her position when she puts the key is and I still get

Now I have told her,, she can take her key in and have the service done. It's easy,,drive 50 miles pick up a loner,, drive 50 miles back,, wait a day or so drive 50 miles in,, then pay for the car and drive 50 miles back. That way I get to and get out of the middle

SO the question is HOW TO MAKE THE MEMORY SEATS RETURN TO A PRESET SETTING WHEN THE KEY IS INSERTED, DOOR CLOSED AND KEY INSERTED TURNED ON.

Any help here would make the go away. thanks Jim
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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I think that what you're looking for has more to do with the "Easy Entry/Exit" feature. Off the top of my head I don't recall how to get to it (might be under [convenience], but it's on the MFD and the choices are: [seat only], or [seat and steering].

Turning this feature on will cause the seat to adjust to the memorized position upon entry and slide back for easy exit.


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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Miguk_Saram
I think that what you're looking for has more to do with the "Easy Entry/Exit" feature. Off the top of my head I don't recall how to get to it (might be under [convenience], but it's on the MFD and the choices are: [seat only], or [seat and steering].

Turning this feature on will cause the seat to adjust to the memorized position upon entry and slide back for easy exit.


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You are correct we have selected Seat and Steering and Key
Dependant. It will set if we push button 1. However with the key in, ignition on, door closed the seat will not return to the memory setting without pressing #1. Ok,, I am getting tired of from the wife on this one. She doesn't like it when I tell her to read the manual. So yesterday we both read the manual and did the above settings and still it will not set with key in.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Its a poorly designed, poorly implimented feature. That's why it was turned off & made not available in later years. My '04 had it & it did what you just described.

In American cars, when a drivers memory is stored, and the key is inserted into the ignition the wheel drops & the seat moves to that drivers position. It appears to me that in the Benz, it might return to the last used driving position, whether it was programmed to memory or not. I always had to press & hold # 1 to get back to my position if someone had moved the seat while driving.

That's why its gone. Differing expectations of how it should work.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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So yesterday we both read the manual and did the above settings and still it will not set with key in.
DTB P-B-80.57/38b MAY07 After entering the vehicle and inserting the key in the ignition, the driver side seat adjustment during Easy Entry/Exit activation does not move to the location stored in memory. This may be due to a software error in the Electronic Ignition Switch (EIS). The EIS may be sending the incorrect key memory block number. To resolve, replace the EIS. Replace with part #A2115453108, or A2115453208, or its successor.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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So what would happen if key dependency is off? My family only needs 3 seat positions (all of which are stored on 1 key), but is there a way to store those positions so all keys can use those exact positions?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by thegamemodo9
So what would happen if key dependency is off? My family only needs 3 seat positions (all of which are stored on 1 key), but is there a way to store those positions so all keys can use those exact positions?

If I understand correctly each key for a specific car has a code that is referenced when the memory 1, 2, or 3 is set.

So if you have the key inserted and on the seat will go to the preset position. However if you use a different key you will still have to adjust to your setting.

My wife uses key 1 and I use 2. She uses memory 1 and I use 2. (In MY Corvette I am #1 )

So the system should go to her #1 setting when she inserts the key with the door closed.

But this has not been functioning.

Thank you konigstiger, I copied your info to take to the dealer. Jim
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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As I understand it the easy exit/entrance has nothing to do with the memory seat positions. It is supposed to return to the last position (for each key) that the seat, wheel, and mirrors were in when it was shut off with that key. I also recall from when I took delivery of my 05 that it has to be turned on and set with each individual key. That seems to be the way my 05 operates anyway. I happen to really like this feature and was dissapinted that it was decontented. In fact, if they do not put it back by the time I will trade I am going to look elsewhere for a replacement vehicle. I have not had any problems with this feature at all.
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In my case it doesn't matter. My exit & driving position are the same. Yeah, moving back would give me 2 inches more room to exit, but I don't need them.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
DTB P-B-80.57/38b MAY07 After entering the vehicle and inserting the key in the ignition, the driver side seat adjustment during Easy Entry/Exit activation does not move to the location stored in memory. This may be due to a software error in the Electronic Ignition Switch (EIS). The EIS may be sending the incorrect key memory block number. To resolve, replace the EIS. Replace with part #A2115453108, or A2115453208, or its successor.
Konigs,

This DTB would be covered, even if your car is out of warranty, right?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
DTB P-B-80.57/38b MAY07 After entering the vehicle and inserting the key in the ignition, the driver side seat adjustment during Easy Entry/Exit activation does not move to the location stored in memory. This may be due to a software error in the Electronic Ignition Switch (EIS). The EIS may be sending the incorrect key memory block number. To resolve, replace the EIS. Replace with part #A2115453108, or A2115453208, or its successor.
My Easy Entry/Exit option can not be turned on. It alsways stays on off. Does this mean there is a malfunction or reprogramming is necessary?

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
DTB P-B-80.57/38b MAY07 After entering the vehicle and inserting the key in the ignition, the driver side seat adjustment during Easy Entry/Exit activation does not move to the location stored in memory. This may be due to a software error in the Electronic Ignition Switch (EIS). The EIS may be sending the incorrect key memory block number. To resolve, replace the EIS. Replace with part #A2115453108, or A2115453208, or its successor.
Thanks.. I took a copy of this information to the dealer today and they argeed there is a problem and the entire EIS will be changed out under warranty as soon as the parts arrive. Thanks Jim
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
This DTB would be covered, even if your car is out of warranty, right?
Yes, you should be entitled to free repair.

The benchmark dictates that only recalls and service campaigns have no expiration and as such always provide free repair out of warranty. However, if a DTB states that a new part number replaces the original because of design flaw you can argue your case for a free, or worst case, 50% to 75% discounted repair. In this particular case, the DTB instructs to replace the original EIS with a modified EIS because of software error giving a specific new part number.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Yes, you should be entitled to free repair.

The benchmark dictates that only recalls and service campaigns have no expiration and as such always provide free repair out of warranty. However, if a DTB states that a new part number replaces the original because of design flaw you can argue your case for a free, or worst case, 50% to 75% discounted repair. In this particular case, the DTB instructs to replace the original EIS with a modified EIS because of software error giving a specific new part number.

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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My Easy Entry/Exit option can not be turned on. It alsways stays on off. Does this mean there is a malfunction or reprogramming is necessary?
Yes, it needs re-programming through Star Diagnosis System (SDS).
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