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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 09:46 AM
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lol, nice, but poro, if there are more cars on the road, wouldn't that mean that it will hold its value longer, i doubt there are ore jags than new E's...i remember reading this thing, i dont know if it was posted here or not, but it said somewhere in europe, the new e's outsold the new s-types, 32 thousand to 800......thats a big difference, but anyway, you made a good decision, and you will be happy with the car, tjhats all that matters
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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MB = more prestige than Jag; better retention of value. New E has a huge trunk. I believe that E has better mileage over the entire line and is more roomy. The new E has much better styling than the previous model although the Jag has great styling. The new E interior has better styling and quality than the Jag. The E has better visibility and lots of technical items. Technically the E is superior than the Jag and the new 4-link front suspention makes a big difference in handling....I could go on and on ....but the important thing to realize that the Jag has to throw in a 'low price' = low apparent price (for those who mainly look at sticker price) in order to sell.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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I agree with you.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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But to answer your question, I would definitely pick E-class over S-type, unless you are talking about the supercharged S-type R that has 92 more hp than a E500.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 08:34 PM
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nah man, i havent even seen a R yet, ****......i havent even seen the new s-type yet, not even one!!!!
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:58 PM
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But to answer your question, I would definitely pick E-class over S-type, unless you are talking about the supercharged S-type R that has 92 more hp than a E500.
I have driven the S-Type R, its fast....but doesn't have a crazy seat of the pants kick. It has been stated in the magazines, the car has a redline cutoff in the software that prevents the car from taking advantage of its full power (a fix is rumored to be in the works). Also, it doesn't have a limited slip differential (which would help put the power to the ground more easily).

While its definitely punchier than the E500, it wasn't by a wide margin IMO. The Jaguar R does 0-60 in 5.5, the E500 is like 5.8-5.9sec. Definitely a difference, but not enough to make me consider the Jag only on that merit.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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lol, 5.5, kinda slow for a 390 hp vehicle, forbes got the e500 down to 5.7....and when the e55 comes out, the s-type r will say bye bye
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 12:54 AM
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rays, i would have zero respect for you if you bought a jag....we were going to buy one over a year ago, a s-type 30, i think itwas the v6, not v8, and i pushed my dad sooo much we went to the dealer so many times, ans we hated it every time....the build quality is ok....and by the tires, paint was scratched off, and the engine was super noisy.....so now i am glad we bought the mbz, every time we see a s-type we laugh......but i do think it is beautiful on the outside
...maybe the one you saw was re-worked in Tijuana.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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Bmms8, are you listening to what anyone is saying? The E55 is in a class above the S Type R already! The s-type R is a little more expensive then the E500. You compare cars that cost the same, not cars that have a 20,000 price difference. So for the love of god, stop comparing the two as you've done many times already!

Im not sure if I'm going to get an E500 or and the S type R... its hard. Both have killer styling, beautiful interiors, good reliability... I just dont know. The R is faster, but the E is larger and more comfortable... in the end I'll most likely get an E500 because the dealership is 20 minutes away, as opposed to 2 hours away for the jag.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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no, youre not listening, the s-type 3.0 compares to the e320, the s-type 4.2 compares to the e500!!!! the r compares to the e55!!!!....i dont know what you are saying, price isnt everything, and if it is.....then your paying the extra money for a good cause, the mbs aer always more expensive than its rivals, a lexus ls430 starts at 56 k, and the s430 starts at 73, that doesnt mean that the e500 is the right comparison.........
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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bmms8 is partially (mostly) correct.
Price is definitely not the only criterion for comparison.

Consider: the BMW vs MB comparisons are:
M5 vs E55(210)-- ~ same base price
M3 vs CLK55--$20,000 difference
540 vs E500-- ~ same base price
745 vs S500--$10,000 difference
X5(4.4) vs M500--$7,000 difference

Throw in Audi A8 vs 745 vs S500 and you get almost a $20,000 range, even though all car magazines consider the above groupings to be head-to-head competitors.

Most of the car magazines weight value pretty heavily when cross comparing in the non-exotic market. They like to downgrade MB for being too expensive and they like to credit BMW and Lexus for relative cost efficiency (most models).
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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And I'm saying that if you're in the market for a $45,000 car, as the problem originally was, not for $80,000. If I was in the market for an $80,000 jag, I would go for an XJR, not an S type R. Which is completely comparable to an E55, especially with the new model lineup. In the 60,000 car market, it is negligible whether the E55 is better, since its not in the price range. For example, I am a college student, have no large scale income, so I can only truly afford an E500 comfortably, though in reality if I truly wished I could buy an E55, or even an S55. But seeing as I'm NOT in the market for a car like that, I'm only looking at $60,000 cars. IE, an E500 or S type R.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:01 AM
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And I'm saying that if you're in the market for a $45,000 car, as the problem originally was, not for $80,000. If I was in the market for an $80,000 jag, I would go for an XJR, not an S type R. Which is completely comparable to an E55, especially with the new model lineup. In the 60,000 car market, it is negligible whether the E55 is better, since its not in the price range. For example, I am a college student, have no large scale income, so I can only truly afford an E500 comfortably, though in reality if I truly wished I could buy an E55, or even an S55. But seeing as I'm NOT in the market for a car like that, I'm only looking at $60,000 cars. IE, an E500 or S type R.

your in college and you can ONLY afford an e500, your very lucky, not everyone can do that, but like it was posted b4, price isnt everything....look at amgs post, it makes sense
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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I just repeat my opinion if you're selecting between E500 and S R go for Jaguar. Or if you're selecting between E320 and S 4.2, then go for Jaguar. Otherwise buy Benz. The cars are mostly equivalently, and performance plays significant role.
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