mpx220

Do radar detectors and laser jammers really work?

lkchris

Radar detectors actually work. They've been sold for over 30 years. You have to be smart to know how to use them.

E500 Benzo

search youtube for "k-40" or "blinder m-20" or "blinder m-25" etc

you'll find live tests. they seem pretty convincing.

radar detectors work well. but remember with those, you only get what you pay for. (ex: the $300-$400 valentine 1 will out perform the $79 cobra radar detector on sale at best buy.)

now more and more jurisdictions are moving to laser guns only (ex. where i live ). with laser, even if you get the best radar/ laser detector, its not really gonna help your cause. since laser guns are "point and shoot", and have very narrow, precise beams, all your fancy laser detector will tell you is that the cop already got your speed. there's not really time to slow down and adjust your speed / driving style (unlike a radar detector which will give you notice up to 1 mile in advanced, around bends, and through trees, etc)

here's a bad analogy.... imagine that getting hit by a cop's laser gun is like getting hit with a bullet. its that quick. that precise. no device, however advanced, can warn you in time to dodge a bullet. plain and simple. you need to get a bullet proof vest for this one a/k/a a laser jammer.

my recommendations... a nice valentine 1 radar detector, and a blinder M-25 laser jammer. total cost around $700 for the two of them... $$$ and aggravation saved.... priceless

rlee02135

go for a Valentine One

mpx220

So is a laser jammer something I install into the car or is it removable like a radar detector?

mbuskuhl

Installs on the car, not portable like a radar detector. You need both to keep the cops off. Radar detectors work, laser detectors do not ... by the time it alerts you, it's too late, you are busted. Fight laser with a good jammer.

Humarockron

I recently retired an ancient Passport (by Escort) and after a fair amount of research narrowed my choices to the new Escort 9500i and the Valentine 1. The best (and most objective) testing I found was on this site; guysoflidar.com.

I ended up purchasing a Valentine 1 mainly because of its' performance in the "off-axis" tests where it was the only effective detector. After using it for several months now I have the following comments; 1. the arrows ARE a big deal and once you have them you won't want to live without them, 2. the unit is very sensitive and detects laser "scatter" well enough to alert you to a laser speed trap before you are the target, 3. the unit is essentially useless in urban areas because it detects EVERYTHING. (the Passport 9500i is probably a better choice for urban environments if its' GPS memory performs as advertised)

As for jamming... keep in mind that receiving radio waves is almost always legal. Transmitting radio waves for the purpose of jamming radar is almost always ILLEGAL.

The attached map (from guysoflidar.com) indicates the legal status of laser jammers by state.

Timeless

So, which jammers are the best...and what are the penalties if caught using one in an illegal state?

mpx220

That's good info to know...Thanks!

AndrewAZ

Laser jamming is legal. Only a few states have laws against it.. I used to have a laser park pro which is a jammer. Basically you can program it to shut off after 5 seconds of jamming or you can manual flick the switch to turn it off. the theory being you get shot with the laser it warns you you slow down flick it off and let the cop get a reading. Most cops wont know anything about laser jammers and if they do they will think they dont work.

Right now the best laser jammer on the market is called the laser interceptor. It jams all guns in the USA and the most common laser guns used it jams them all the way to the gun aka JTG.

Laser interceptor runs about $650 and its a dual head unit.. Dont waste your time with a blinder system or K-40, they use LED diodes and are outdated. The laser interceptor uses an actual laser diode which is as powerful as the cops laser gun or more powerful.. Basically your trying to confuse the laser gun by shooting back a brighter light, I am not saying LED based systems dont work they are just not as powerful and tests show that around 500 feet a cop can get a reading.. Now most cops shoot laser between 500-1000 or closer, so your going to want a laser diode based system like the laser interceptor or laser park pro or the anti laser.. I personally I am going to pick up a laser interceptor soon.

I also have a V1, on the street I dont really use my V1 since I hardly speed on the streets. Its mostly useful to find radar vans. Reason being is in my area for speed enforcement they use laser.. Now on the freeway its different the V1 is a life saver, I have yet to encounter highway patrol running anything but constant on radar (meaning they leave the gun running all the time instead of just turning it on and off when someone is in view) and I can pick them up a mile ++ away, which is plenty of time to slow down..

V1 + laser interceptor = ultimate defense.

jimm

This subject is a VERY interesting “update” for me. I haven’t kept up to date
on jammers. The last I heard (years back) “none of them worked.”

AndrewAZ gave an excellent review. Certainly a “real update” for me. Does
anyone NOT agree with any of his conclusions?

I had always heard they were illegal in ALL states which is why most people
try to hide them.

jimm

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Shake

If u get a highend radar detector it will work most of the time. Mine is a cheap one from Best Buy and it works maybe 50% of the time. That's good enough for me as it has saved me a couple times

mpx220

Shake's in da house!

AndrewAZ

I have been talking with a local guy about the laser interceptor and you can check out guys of lidar test. But the local guy I have been chatting with is a laser nut, he owns several police laser guns and has been impressed with the LI so far. I am still waiting from the long term durability test since my laser park pro ran into durability problems.. So far the LI seems to be the best of the best the V1 of laser jammers. I will probably pick up a LI in the next few months after I am assured its durable.



Please dont buy a cheap detector aka cobra.. All you do is flood other V1 owners with false KA signals. But thankfully the V1 is fast as heck to determine the KA false caused by cheap detectors.

iguess

what exactly is a GPS radar/laser detector? do the laser guns work on gps?

559EVO

I have a top of the line whisler= which is not an expensive brand. It works well but you get false alarms with low end detecters. It is wireless running on rechargable batteries, thats the best feature. I velcro it to my dash and my wifes dash if were making a trip in her car. Next time I will by a high end, If you can afford the high end get it, if you cant then get one from best buy.

AndrewAZ

One of the new radar detectors (passport 9500i) has a built in GPS chip, the theory is if you drive down a road that gets a false alert you mark it with the GPS button, so the next time your driving down the road the passport wont alert to that false alarm and if it sees now it has 2 different radar sources it will alert you. This has run into a few issues, you can find videos and various reviews stating a flaw with this and sometimes it will block out all radar in that location and not notice a real source.

If you want the best of the best I say get the V1. Its very sensitive and the arrows and bogy counter is the main feature that elevates this above the rest along with having 1 forward facing detection unit along with 1 rear facing.


http://www.radardetector.net/

Check that site out. You can read about the V1 and passport and others, along with laser jammers.

RaDaRkInG

If you want the best radar/laser detector, get a Valentine One.

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html

http://guysoflidar.com/july-2007/off...ctor-test.html


If you want the best laser jammer, get the Laser Interceptor, AL, or LPP.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...mmer-test.html


Laser Interceptor:

http://www.laser-interceptor.com/index.html


AL:

http://www.antilaser.info/


LPP:

http://www.laserprotector.us/


Here is a link to videos of the Laser Interceptor in action:

http://youtube.com/results?search_qu...er+interceptor

avb777

I've been using Escort SOLO S2 for 5 years. It saved me many many times. It has never missed a cop. The best thing is it is cordless and running on the batttery (lasts 3 months). It look very good VS V1 (bulky).
It was stolen 2 weeks ago in the Valet parking lot at work.
But it is so good that I am going to buy the same Solo 2 again.

Here is the link:
http://www.escortradar.com/solo.htm

mpx220

This is all real good info!

Thanks everyone for your help!

RaDaRkInG

Th Escort Solo S2 is a piece of crap because battery operated detectors are weak. Look how bad it performed compared to a corded model like the Valentine One.

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html


This is why battery operated detectors have weak performance:

http://valentine1.com/cordless/


The V1 is not bulky or heavy. The Escort 9500i is the largest in size and the Bel STi Driver is the heaviest. The Valentine One is the smallest and lightest radar detector of the Top 5 radar detectors made today. I don't know how much the Escort Solo S2 weighs but it is 17.66 cu. in. That means that it is still bigger than the Valentine One, Bel RX65 Pro, and the Bel STi.

Size (from smallest to largest):

Valentine One -> 16.20 cu. in.
Bel RX65 Pro -> 16.33 cu. in.
Bel STi -> 16.33 cu. in.
Escort 8500 X50 -> 18.95 cu. in.
Escort 9500i -> 21.72 cu. in.

Weight (from lightest to heaviest):

Valentine One -> 181.5g (6.40 ounces)
Beltronics RX65 Pro -> 236.6g (8.35 ounces)
Escort 8500 X50 -> 253.7g (8.95 ounces)
Escort 9500i -> 269.2g (9.49 ounces)
Beltronics STi Driver -> 291.6g (10.29 ounces)

Benz-O-Rama

Guys,

Please don't listen to anything this guy^^^^^^^ says. While he's right about the V1 being a great detector, everything else on the market isn't crap. Read his posts, he bashes anything and everything not named Valentine One. And he always, ALWAYS, quotes the same website over and over and over. I don't know if he works for them or what. He's bashed my K40 detector and jammer countless times when I have real world evidence that it works great.

The Valentine One is a great radar detector, he's right about that. But there are many other options out there that will give you great protection. I currently run a K40 stealth setup with front and rear radar detectors mounted behind my bumpers, out of sight. I also have the K40 laser defuser mounted up front underneath my front plate. Very slick install. While this setup is very expensive, (Retails for 1800.00 installed) it's been worth every penny. I've been warned of radar many, many times at speeds that would've been big trouble for me. I've also been zapped with laser and at more reasonable speed and had the office point at me as I drove by him.

Bottom line is if you want the best protection, a 360* detector plus a laser jammer is your best bet. I'm not saying the K40 is the best, it's probably not but it's one of many choices you have not named Valentine One. Which, by they way, does not jam laser at all.

RaDaRkInG

You don't know what you are talking about. The K40 may be able to detect radar but it can't jam any lidar guns used by the police. Show me your videos of the K40 jamming anything and I will give you $10,000.

I find it interesting that you can find all kinds of laser jammers that work on youtube but there are none of the K40 working. How can it be that such a great device like the K40 doesn't have any fans that want to show it in action?

It's because it doesn't work as advertised and you seem to be the only idiot that thinks that it does. You either sell the K40 to unsuspecting people with money to blow on defective devices or you are just dense.

The only video of the K40 in action shows it failing as usual:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9fwJCRDk2Ik


It is very interesting that the K40 site is so pretty but they don't have any videos of their laser jammer in action. All they have are links to people that have installed them on their cars but no actual laser jammer tests. The only independent testing that was done was on the radar detection portion of the K40 not the "laser jamming" crap.

Be sure and read the fine print on their website:

http://k40.com/images/pdf/tech/CalibreBrochure.pdf

K40 will pay any "radar" speeding tickets you receive for the first year not lidar tickets. I wonder why they couldn't make the lidar ticket guarantee??

Anyone care to guess?

Quit being so dense and learn something Benz-O-Rama.

BklynBenz

K40's stopped working around 5 years ago. if you recently had K40's installed you might as well go back to your dealer, thank him for completely robbing you and then telling him to take those pieces of ***** out of your car. they're giving you a false sense of security, believe me k40 is the absolute worst, well maybe right after rocky mountain radar lol

if you want a reliable unit get yourself a LPP or better yet an LI. they produce a JTG on just about every gun out there, 100% all the guns in NY. it jams straight through even up till you pass the LEO so I would suggest one of these, and they double as a parking sensor

Benz-O-Rama

Blah, blah blah....

Let see....

You have 65 posts and every one of them pushes the Valentine One.

I have how many? And 90% of them relate to Mercedes-Benz in some way shape or form. And I'm the one pushing a product? Do you even own a Benz? I own 3 for the record. Or do you go on every automotive forum pushing your products?

And you may want to shy away from calling people idiots on this forum. One, you have no idea who I am and two, you might want to read the T.O.U.

Go away, TROLL!