Tire bubbles on brand new e350 ...SCANDAL I tell ya!
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E500
Maybe not a recall, but the PAX system on my 2006 Odyssey was a major disappointment. The tires are 2x expensive to have installed and only last 30k miles. Plus, only Honda dealers have the necessary equipment to replace/repair them.
Even the mighty Michelin can make a bad product.
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From: SoCal
2005 E500, 2011 ML350
A tire "bubble" is caused by an impact. The tire is pinched between the road (or a curb) and the wheel resulting in a bruise/cut on the inner sidewall. This allows the tire to swell in that area.
It is very easy to damage multiple tires on the same car. The tire is also more prone to damage when the inflation is low. 3 tires bubble can result for 2 seperate impacts, where the front and rear tire on one side hit the same defect in the road. It can even happen while driving over 1 defect; like driving over steel plates the span perpendicular the the roadway.
I check my tires at least once a month, regardless of the status of the tire warners display. I have not had one failure.
BTW, anyone who states they "never hit and potholes" is a liar. It is inevitable. The roads suck. If you want better roads, be prepared to pay the price of gas drivers in europe pay. You want cheap gas? You get cheap roads....
It is very easy to damage multiple tires on the same car. The tire is also more prone to damage when the inflation is low. 3 tires bubble can result for 2 seperate impacts, where the front and rear tire on one side hit the same defect in the road. It can even happen while driving over 1 defect; like driving over steel plates the span perpendicular the the roadway.
I check my tires at least once a month, regardless of the status of the tire warners display. I have not had one failure.
BTW, anyone who states they "never hit and potholes" is a liar. It is inevitable. The roads suck. If you want better roads, be prepared to pay the price of gas drivers in europe pay. You want cheap gas? You get cheap roads....
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03 E500 and Corvette
A tire "bubble" is caused by an impact. The tire is pinched between the road (or a curb) and the wheel resulting in a bruise/cut on the inner sidewall. This allows the tire to swell in that area.
It is very easy to damage multiple tires on the same car. The tire is also more prone to damage when the inflation is low. 3 tires bubble can result for 2 seperate impacts, where the front and rear tire on one side hit the same defect in the road. It can even happen while driving over 1 defect; like driving over steel plates the span perpendicular the the roadway.
I check my tires at least once a month, regardless of the status of the tire warners display. I have not had one failure.
BTW, anyone who states they "never hit and potholes" is a liar. It is inevitable. The roads suck. If you want better roads, be prepared to pay the price of gas drivers in europe pay. You want cheap gas? You get cheap roads....
It is very easy to damage multiple tires on the same car. The tire is also more prone to damage when the inflation is low. 3 tires bubble can result for 2 seperate impacts, where the front and rear tire on one side hit the same defect in the road. It can even happen while driving over 1 defect; like driving over steel plates the span perpendicular the the roadway.
I check my tires at least once a month, regardless of the status of the tire warners display. I have not had one failure.
BTW, anyone who states they "never hit and potholes" is a liar. It is inevitable. The roads suck. If you want better roads, be prepared to pay the price of gas drivers in europe pay. You want cheap gas? You get cheap roads....
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2009 E350 Sport
How is New Orleans nowadays? Did they actually spend any of the fed money to fix anything?
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03 E500 and Corvette
I thought fed money was OUR money?
I filed for fed $$ after we were shorted about $80G's on our home rebuilding. How much did I get, ZERO. We have a 4 bedroom home when our kids lived with us. Now they don't. When asked how many live here I told the truth 2. They told me the house was too big for us,(gov determining what size home I should have ) and that the INS gave me enough $$ to rebuild 2 bedrooms 1 bath, kitchen and LR. Forget the rest of the house full of mold. So we got ZERO.
I guess that is the advantage of having flood insurance. If you had none you got the Fed grant.Folks won't admit it but guess is NO is down 160,000 in population.
This is apparent with less traffic on the highway at rush hour.
Last edited by vettdvr; Sep 24, 2009 at 06:03 PM.
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I am too small to save not too big to fail....
I thought fed money was OUR money?
I flied for fed $$ after we were shorted about $80G's on our home rebuilding. How much did I get, ZERO. We have a 4 bedroom home when our kids lived with us. Now they don't. When asked how many live here I told the truth 2. They told me the house was too big for us,(gov determining what size home I should have ) and that the INS gave me enough $$ to rebuild 2 bedrooms 1 bath, kitchen and LR. Forget the rest of the house full of mold. So we got ZERO. I guess that is the advantage of having flood insurance. If you had none you got the Fed grant.
Folks won't admit it but guess is NO is down 160,000 in population.
This is apparent with less traffic on the highway at rush hour.
I thought fed money was OUR money? I flied for fed $$ after we were shorted about $80G's on our home rebuilding. How much did I get, ZERO. We have a 4 bedroom home when our kids lived with us. Now they don't. When asked how many live here I told the truth 2. They told me the house was too big for us,(gov determining what size home I should have ) and that the INS gave me enough $$ to rebuild 2 bedrooms 1 bath, kitchen and LR. Forget the rest of the house full of mold. So we got ZERO. I guess that is the advantage of having flood insurance. If you had none you got the Fed grant.Folks won't admit it but guess is NO is down 160,000 in population.
This is apparent with less traffic on the highway at rush hour.
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'14 E350 wagon; BMW G12 (2020) G01 (2019)
Out of curiosity.... Is the Wheel and Tire replacement policy administered by an "insurance company" or other 3rd Party Replacement Plan issuer? Or is it simply an agreement between the Corporation that owns the Dealership and the car's Owner? Is the dealership simply "playing the odds" and self insuring the wheels and tires?
Can you replace a wheel or tire at another MB Dealership if you are out of town and ruin either? Who decides whether to repair or replace the rim or tire? Does it cover normal wear? I've never seen this type of policy.
Can you replace a wheel or tire at another MB Dealership if you are out of town and ruin either? Who decides whether to repair or replace the rim or tire? Does it cover normal wear? I've never seen this type of policy.
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From: Ann Arbor, MI
2007 E350 4MATIC
Fortunately had the tire warranty. Though let me say that it is never easy at a dealership. They (at least mine does) seem to always want to come up with some way to say it was your fault. Regardless I got the contract out. They repalced the tire and wheel. Which at a delaership is clsoe to $900. I run the Michelins. Continental should just close up shop altogether. MB should finally acknowledge these tires (all varieties) are pure crap!
Curious, do you like your PS2's? I'm considering these when it comes time for new tires. Also heard good things about Yokohama Advan S.4's.
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From: Louisiana
03 E500 and Corvette
Like thie discussion. Live in MI. Hit a pothole which damaged the tire and wheel.
Fortunately had the tire warranty. Though let me say that it is never easy at a dealership. They (at least mine does) seem to always want to come up with some way to say it was your fault. Regardless I got the contract out. They repalced the tire and wheel. Which at a delaership is clsoe to $900. I run the Michelins. Continental should just close up shop altogether. MB should finally acknowledge these tires (all varieties) are pure crap!
Curious, do you like your PS2's? I'm considering these when it comes time for new tires. Also heard good things about Yokohama Advan S.4's.
Fortunately had the tire warranty. Though let me say that it is never easy at a dealership. They (at least mine does) seem to always want to come up with some way to say it was your fault. Regardless I got the contract out. They repalced the tire and wheel. Which at a delaership is clsoe to $900. I run the Michelins. Continental should just close up shop altogether. MB should finally acknowledge these tires (all varieties) are pure crap!
Curious, do you like your PS2's? I'm considering these when it comes time for new tires. Also heard good things about Yokohama Advan S.4's.
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Like thie discussion. Live in MI. Hit a pothole which damaged the tire and wheel.
Fortunately had the tire warranty. Though let me say that it is never easy at a dealership. They (at least mine does) seem to always want to come up with some way to say it was your fault. Regardless I got the contract out. They repalced the tire and wheel. Which at a delaership is clsoe to $900. I run the Michelins. Continental should just close up shop altogether. MB should finally acknowledge these tires (all varieties) are pure crap!
Curious, do you like your PS2's? I'm considering these when it comes time for new tires. Also heard good things about Yokohama Advan S.4's.
Fortunately had the tire warranty. Though let me say that it is never easy at a dealership. They (at least mine does) seem to always want to come up with some way to say it was your fault. Regardless I got the contract out. They repalced the tire and wheel. Which at a delaership is clsoe to $900. I run the Michelins. Continental should just close up shop altogether. MB should finally acknowledge these tires (all varieties) are pure crap!
Curious, do you like your PS2's? I'm considering these when it comes time for new tires. Also heard good things about Yokohama Advan S.4's.
So, PS2s compared to the Conti "no season" tires is really no comparison.
I now have an AMG and it came with ContiSport Contact IIIs. They aren't a bad tire (I had the earlier Contact IIs on my BMW for a while), and I'll keep them until I run the tread off them. Then I'll probably replace them with PS2s. AMG has certain tires they "approve" just like Porsche does.
Tires are a losing proposition. They take a lot of abuse. It's actually kind of amazing that they wear as well as they do when you think about it. And these days most all brand name tires are pretty decent. And how well they perform varies from car to car (hence the "approval" bit from high end mfgs like Porsche, Ferrari, etc..)
