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07-24-2009, 11:24 PM
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Sup guys, i need your help. Long story short, i have a cousin that i hate, who just recently bought an 01 w210 E430 and he thinks hes the ish now. Used to drive a Camry, now a Benz...acts like he doesn't know me anymore . So i decided that enough is enough, time to one up him. Well, I'm torn between either a 2005 w211 E500 or a 2008 c-class. Both of them have problems, though. The E500 is an old design, which is soon to be replaced, but as i observed at my cousin, an E-class is still the ish, even if its 10 years old...that stupid *****. Anyways, the new C-class is beautiful, a real neck breaker, but the only thing from keeping me buying one is its "image". I always see the c-class associated with the phrases "poor man's Mercedes," "entry level, comparable to an accord". That's not what i want to hear. So at this point i don't know what to do, give me your suggestions guys!!
Sorry for the realllyyy long post, but im really pissed right now
Appreciate the help!!!
Sorry for the realllyyy long post, but im really pissed right now
Appreciate the help!!!
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07-25-2009, 12:02 AM
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I think you have the worst reason to be getting into a Mercedes anyways, but personally, I'd go with the E500. You'd have the newer E-Class while he'd have the previous gen E-Class.
07-25-2009, 12:05 AM
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sorry for giving the impression that its "just to one up him" ive had a couple benz's in the family before, but due to the current financial situation, had to let em go. so none of you guys favor style over function?
07-25-2009, 12:14 AM
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Short answer: E500
One caveat though...If your family has had financial issues, DO NOT even consider getting an 05 with out an extended warranty. Also, I have to agree with Quadbenz...wrong reason to buy a car.
Let your cousin be a *****...buy a car that you want because it makes you happy. Life is to short...
One caveat though...If your family has had financial issues, DO NOT even consider getting an 05 with out an extended warranty. Also, I have to agree with Quadbenz...wrong reason to buy a car.
Let your cousin be a *****...buy a car that you want because it makes you happy. Life is to short...
07-25-2009, 04:57 AM
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Here is a great way to "one up him" .. be the first one to GROW THE F*#K UP.
This whole damn country is in the state that it is in from everyone trying to keep up with the Joneses .. except what they don't know is that the Joneses are BROKE.
This whole damn country is in the state that it is in from everyone trying to keep up with the Joneses .. except what they don't know is that the Joneses are BROKE.
07-25-2009, 09:38 AM
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I agree. Buy what you really like (or need). At the end of the day it is you who will be making the car payments.
Anyways, if you must: Couldn't you get an in-warranty facelift W211 E350 CPO for same money as a new W204?
Anyways, if you must: Couldn't you get an in-warranty facelift W211 E350 CPO for same money as a new W204?
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07-25-2009, 04:23 PM
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I agree... this is the best advice in this thread so far IMO.
However, if you REALLY MUST get a MB, you should really look for what you can AFFORD! If that's a CPO'ed C-Class, then that's what you should get. If that's a CPO'ed E-Class, then that's what you should get. Don't get a car you can't afford, and drive your family into bankruptcy (that's the STUPIDEST idea IMO).
If you're bent on buying CPO/USED, remember that in general, MB's made 2007+ are going to be significantly more reliable and have less quality issues and problems in the long-run than MB made before then. Check Craigslist.org, AutoTrader.com, PennysaverUSA.com (and the mailer), your local newspaper classifieds, and other online/offline sources and you can find some GREAT deals on CPO/USED Mercedes-Benz vehicles (that's how I sold my 2 cars recently). The market is FLOODED with luxury cars that people can't afford to keep anymore, and some are very desperate to get rid of them!
Also remember that certain 2009 models (such as the 2009 E-Class) are being offered for FANTASTIC prices now (until they all are sold) ... prices that won't repeat itself for at least another few decades (until the U.S. goes into another financial crisis as big as this one, AND hits the bottom, AND MB is discontinuing a model at the exact same time, AND has way too much overstock on their hands and needs to get rid of it ASAP, AND the new generation cars are already on the lot and being sold)! So if you find the right dealer desperate enough to get rid of overstocked 2009 E350's, and you are able to afford a new car, then you could get a great NEW car for a GREAT price (E350 + P1 + 321 AMG Sport Package can be had for less than $42K now... less than $5,000 more than a CPO'ed 2007 E350 I looked at a couple months ago). The 2009 E-Classes are much improved over the pre-2009 ones... at least in the COMMAND system, the free 321 AMG Sport Package, and the PRICE (right now)!!!
Happy hunting!
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07-25-2009, 04:47 PM
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To the OP, if you are in a financial bind adhere to the statement above. Get the car you want later when you have the means.
If you do have the means now, get what car YOU want and forget about your cousin. The C Class is a fine car, the E500 is fine also, nothing wrong with either.
07-25-2009, 05:23 PM
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Yea. main reason why i switched to lexus was that M-B was too unreliable. And now i miss benz. Lexus/jap cars in general just dont have that "feel" that german sedans do. My IS just feels kinda soul less if you know what I mean...i do have to say, you guys are way more mature than the guys on the w204 forum...they're making me feel like a piece of $h!t
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I agree... this is the best advice in this thread so far IMO.
However, if you REALLY MUST get a MB, you should really look for what you can AFFORD! If that's a CPO'ed C-Class, then that's what you should get. If that's a CPO'ed E-Class, then that's what you should get. Don't get a car you can't afford, and drive your family into bankruptcy (that's the STUPIDEST idea IMO).
If you're bent on buying CPO/USED, remember that in general, MB's made 2007+ are going to be significantly more reliable and have less quality issues and problems in the long-run than MB made before then. Check Craigslist.org, AutoTrader.com, PennysaverUSA.com (and the mailer), your local newspaper classifieds, and other online/offline sources and you can find some GREAT deals on CPO/USED Mercedes-Benz vehicles (that's how I sold my 2 cars recently). The market is FLOODED with luxury cars that people can't afford to keep anymore, and some are very desperate to get rid of them!
Also remember that certain 2009 models (such as the 2009 E-Class) are being offered for FANTASTIC prices now (until they all are sold) ... prices that won't repeat itself for at least another few decades (until the U.S. goes into another financial crisis as big as this one, AND hits the bottom, AND MB is discontinuing a model at the exact same time, AND has way too much overstock on their hands and needs to get rid of it ASAP, AND the new generation cars are already on the lot and being sold)! So if you find the right dealer desperate enough to get rid of overstocked 2009 E350's, and you are able to afford a new car, then you could get a great NEW car for a GREAT price (E350 + P1 + 321 AMG Sport Package can be had for less than $42K now... less than $5,000 more than a CPO'ed 2007 E350 I looked at a couple months ago). The 2009 E-Classes are much improved over the pre-2009 ones... at least in the COMMAND system, the free 321 AMG Sport Package, and the PRICE (right now)!!!
Happy hunting!
However, if you REALLY MUST get a MB, you should really look for what you can AFFORD! If that's a CPO'ed C-Class, then that's what you should get. If that's a CPO'ed E-Class, then that's what you should get. Don't get a car you can't afford, and drive your family into bankruptcy (that's the STUPIDEST idea IMO).
If you're bent on buying CPO/USED, remember that in general, MB's made 2007+ are going to be significantly more reliable and have less quality issues and problems in the long-run than MB made before then. Check Craigslist.org, AutoTrader.com, PennysaverUSA.com (and the mailer), your local newspaper classifieds, and other online/offline sources and you can find some GREAT deals on CPO/USED Mercedes-Benz vehicles (that's how I sold my 2 cars recently). The market is FLOODED with luxury cars that people can't afford to keep anymore, and some are very desperate to get rid of them!
Also remember that certain 2009 models (such as the 2009 E-Class) are being offered for FANTASTIC prices now (until they all are sold) ... prices that won't repeat itself for at least another few decades (until the U.S. goes into another financial crisis as big as this one, AND hits the bottom, AND MB is discontinuing a model at the exact same time, AND has way too much overstock on their hands and needs to get rid of it ASAP, AND the new generation cars are already on the lot and being sold)! So if you find the right dealer desperate enough to get rid of overstocked 2009 E350's, and you are able to afford a new car, then you could get a great NEW car for a GREAT price (E350 + P1 + 321 AMG Sport Package can be had for less than $42K now... less than $5,000 more than a CPO'ed 2007 E350 I looked at a couple months ago). The 2009 E-Classes are much improved over the pre-2009 ones... at least in the COMMAND system, the free 321 AMG Sport Package, and the PRICE (right now)!!!
Happy hunting!
07-25-2009, 05:45 PM
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Yea. main reason why i switched to lexus was that M-B was too unreliable. And now i miss benz. Lexus/jap cars in general just dont have that "feel" that german sedans do. My IS just feels kinda soul less if you know what I mean...i do have to say, you guys are way more mature than the guys on the w204 forum...they're making me feel like a piece of $h!t
I agree with the difference between Japanese cars (ie: Lexus) and German cars (ie: MB). I felt the same way as you too (not to say that Japanese cars are BAD or anything... they're just not the same as German cars). Therefore, I chose to invest in something that I LIKE driving (and drive often) instead of saving a couple grand and investing in something that I DISLIKE driving (but still have to drive often). Yes, MB *MAY* be more expensive to maintain/repair over it's lifetime than a comparable Lexus, but to me it's worth it. YOU should decide what is worth it to YOU (and what YOU can afford)!
But honestly speaking, the concept behind this thread is quite childish IMO. One thing I've learned in life, is that there will ALWAYS be people "more fortunate" than you (at least financially), and there will ALWAYS be people "less fortunate" than you. So what if your cousin has a better car than you? Who cares?!? There are LOTS of people (both on and off MBWorld) that has better cars than HIM! So don't even feel bad about this!
As for your cousin treating you like dirt, I say "what comes around, goes around". Personally, I *try* to give everyone a fair chance. If they treat me with respect and dignity, I do the same. If they are pompous a-holes (and there seems to be quite a few of them in SoCal), then I give them the exact same treatment as they give me. (Of course there will be exceptions from time to time... especially if your boss is an a-hole, but you want to keep your job... but in general this has worked out for me.) Just don't talk to your cousin or ignore him if you don't want to... your time is too precious to waste on people like him (until he comes to his senses).
Just my 2 cents...
07-25-2009, 05:46 PM
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Nope, not even joking. Got my E350 + P1 + Pano + Parktronic + 321 AMG Sport Package for $46,600 2 months ago... you can get it for a few thousand less now (if there are any available still). If you get it without Pano and Parktronic, you can even probably do $40K now (since the majority of the E350's left only have P1 and 321 Sport Package, so the dealers are more willing to sell these at a bigger loss just to get rid of them).
Sell your current vehicle privately to maximize your profit (trading-in vehicles to dealerships are NOT worth it for the price... unless you have an old "clunker" that isn't worth $3,500-$4,500 and qualifies for the "Cash For Clunkers" legislation that just started a few days ago... then go do that!).
Also, don't forget that according to the "American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of 2009", on any NEW vehicle purchase, your tax is able to be deducted from your 2010 taxes (maximum $49,500 from your vehicle... but since 2009 E350's all now sell below that price, you get 100% of your tax deducted).
And right now MB has a low 1.9% APR going on when you finance your vehicle for up to 36 months (used to be 66 months, but now 66 months is at 2.9%... which is still pretty low).
Just some incentives to get people to buy a NEW car/Mercedes!
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I agree with the difference between Japanese cars (ie: Lexus) and German cars (ie: MB). I felt the same way as you too (not to say that Japanese cars are BAD or anything... they're just not the same as German cars). Therefore, I chose to invest in something that I LIKE driving (and drive often) instead of saving a couple grand and investing in something that I DISLIKE driving (but still have to drive often). Yes, MB *MAY* be more expensive to maintain/repair over it's lifetime than a comparable Lexus, but to me it's worth it. YOU should decide what is worth it to YOU (and what YOU can afford)!
But honestly speaking, the concept behind this thread is quite childish IMO. One thing I've learned in life, is that there will ALWAYS be people "more fortunate" than you (at least financially), and there will ALWAYS be people "less fortunate" than you. So what if your cousin has a better car than you? Who cares?!? There are LOTS of people (both on and off MBWorld) that has better cars than HIM! So don't even feel bad about this!
As for your cousin treating you like dirt, I say "what comes around, goes around". Personally, I *try* to give everyone a fair chance. If they treat me with respect and dignity, I do the same. If they are pompous a-holes (and there seems to be quite a few of them in SoCal), then I give them the exact same treatment as they give me. (Of course there will be exceptions from time to time... especially if your boss is an a-hole, but you want to keep your job... but in general this has worked out for me.) Just don't talk to your cousin or ignore him if you don't want to... your time is too precious to waste on people like him (until he comes to his senses).
Just my 2 cents...
But honestly speaking, the concept behind this thread is quite childish IMO. One thing I've learned in life, is that there will ALWAYS be people "more fortunate" than you (at least financially), and there will ALWAYS be people "less fortunate" than you. So what if your cousin has a better car than you? Who cares?!? There are LOTS of people (both on and off MBWorld) that has better cars than HIM! So don't even feel bad about this!
As for your cousin treating you like dirt, I say "what comes around, goes around". Personally, I *try* to give everyone a fair chance. If they treat me with respect and dignity, I do the same. If they are pompous a-holes (and there seems to be quite a few of them in SoCal), then I give them the exact same treatment as they give me. (Of course there will be exceptions from time to time... especially if your boss is an a-hole, but you want to keep your job... but in general this has worked out for me.) Just don't talk to your cousin or ignore him if you don't want to... your time is too precious to waste on people like him (until he comes to his senses).
Just my 2 cents...
Valid points you made, bro. I would have to say w211 forum is more mature and nice. I'm seeing a lot of A-holes on the w204 forum, where i posted this same thread...i really appreciate all your guys's help
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Nope, not even joking. Got my E350 + P1 + Pano + Parktronic + 321 AMG Sport Package for $46,600 2 months ago... you can get it for a few thousand less now (if there are any available still). If you get it without Pano and Parktronic, you can even probably do $40K now (since the majority of the E350's left only have P1 and 321 Sport Package, so the dealers are more willing to sell these at a bigger loss just to get rid of them).
Sell your current vehicle privately to maximize your profit (trading-in vehicles to dealerships are NOT worth it for the price... unless you have an old "clunker" that isn't worth $3,500-$4,500 and qualifies for the "Cash For Clunkers" legislation that just started a few days ago... then go do that!).
Also, don't forget that according to the "American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of 2009", on any NEW vehicle purchase, your tax is able to be deducted from your 2010 taxes (maximum $49,500 from your vehicle... but since 2009 E350's all now sell below that price, you get 100% of your tax deducted).
And right now MB has a low 1.9% APR going on when you finance your vehicle for up to 36 months (used to be 66 months, but now 66 months is at 2.9%... which is still pretty low).
Just some incentives to get people to buy a NEW car/Mercedes!
Sell your current vehicle privately to maximize your profit (trading-in vehicles to dealerships are NOT worth it for the price... unless you have an old "clunker" that isn't worth $3,500-$4,500 and qualifies for the "Cash For Clunkers" legislation that just started a few days ago... then go do that!).
Also, don't forget that according to the "American Reinvestment and Recovery Act of 2009", on any NEW vehicle purchase, your tax is able to be deducted from your 2010 taxes (maximum $49,500 from your vehicle... but since 2009 E350's all now sell below that price, you get 100% of your tax deducted).
And right now MB has a low 1.9% APR going on when you finance your vehicle for up to 36 months (used to be 66 months, but now 66 months is at 2.9%... which is still pretty low).
Just some incentives to get people to buy a NEW car/Mercedes!
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[quote=benzlvr2500;3638254]. The E500 is an old design, which is soon to be replaced,
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Just wanted to add that, while the W211 may have been designed a few years ago, the styling is still very much current and valid.
Get what works best for you. But, if I was in your situation and faced with those that particular choice of cars, I would go for the E500.
Lastly, life is much more pleasant and rewarding when you are living for YOU and not for other people and ways to impress them. Do what is best for yourself (within reason of course) and what makes you happy.
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Just wanted to add that, while the W211 may have been designed a few years ago, the styling is still very much current and valid.
Get what works best for you. But, if I was in your situation and faced with those that particular choice of cars, I would go for the E500.
Lastly, life is much more pleasant and rewarding when you are living for YOU and not for other people and ways to impress them. Do what is best for yourself (within reason of course) and what makes you happy.
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Finally someone with good advice
. The E500 is an old design, which is soon to be replaced,
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Just wanted to add that, while the W211 may have been designed a few years ago, the styling is still very much current and valid.
Get what works best for you. But, if I was in your situation and faced with those that particular choice of cars, I would go for the E500.
Lastly, life is much more pleasant and rewarding when you are living for YOU and not for other people and ways to impress them. Do what is best for yourself (within reason of course) and what makes you happy.
quote]
Just wanted to add that, while the W211 may have been designed a few years ago, the styling is still very much current and valid.
Get what works best for you. But, if I was in your situation and faced with those that particular choice of cars, I would go for the E500.
Lastly, life is much more pleasant and rewarding when you are living for YOU and not for other people and ways to impress them. Do what is best for yourself (within reason of course) and what makes you happy.
Finally someone with good advice
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Take my advice: go out and buy the best car you can find. People will think you are way cool. I had an E350 but couldn't get any respect. So I sold it to a dumbass relative of mine and got me an E63. It cost me a lot and I can't make my house payments anymore. That's okay 'cause I moved in with my Mom and she has a nice basement. And I don't care if the bank took the house, 'cause no way are they gonna take my car!
I noticed people on the road think I'm pretty cool. It's such a great feeling. The other day a guy in an awesome Maserati drove past me and smiled at me. I knew he respected me. That moment was so worth it all.
You only live once, so go for it. That way nobody can ever dis you. No way, dude. Don't let it happen. Nobody can see you with your pants down except your girlfriend and she's already bored seeing it. So a cool car is the only way. Go for it!
I noticed people on the road think I'm pretty cool. It's such a great feeling. The other day a guy in an awesome Maserati drove past me and smiled at me. I knew he respected me. That moment was so worth it all.
You only live once, so go for it. That way nobody can ever dis you. No way, dude. Don't let it happen. Nobody can see you with your pants down except your girlfriend and she's already bored seeing it. So a cool car is the only way. Go for it!
