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E500 2004 or E350 2006

Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:42 AM
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Oh Snap!!! Did anyone else notice in the pic of the engine compartment, the engine cover says AMG on it??? I just saw it now. WTF???
AMG badge adds 50 hp as long as its black and on the cover. who needs a super charger?
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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I actually think I remember someone swapping out an SL500 M113 5.0L V8 for the E55 N/A AMG engine that came in the W210 E55 AMG car (or maybe it was from a W215 CL55 N/A AMG, I don't remember exactly).
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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Out of those 2 cars I would go with the E350 because it's newer. Have u thought about getting a e320 diesel? With a tune it can produce almost 450 tq which makes it fun for everyday driving
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by braizedtofu
AMG badge adds 50 hp as long as its black and on the cover. who needs a super charger?
I always gain 10 extra HPs after I wash my car
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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the e500 has CLS55 AMG 19" wheels(hopefully previous owner did research for the correct tire fitment), no center mesh for the bumper, no foglight mesh on the left side..I'm all for performance, but be careful not to get anyone's leftovers..
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gnma
If u're into power - E500 all the way. Nothing like a MB V8. U'll get 26+ mpg on the highway and u'll get 339lb-ft torque at 2,700 rpms! That's what makes these motors insane - its peak torque right up front. And as rpm's increase, u'll enjoy the 302 hp! The power curve on this V8 is simply amazing. (And its not even an AMG)! Go drive both, and notice the difference in how each car launches.

Additionally, u're getting the AMG package which is eye candy, but was a $4K option back then and is actually pretty rare on a V8. It looks simply amazing. And its not an E55"wanna-be" because it has its own distinguished AMG dual tip mufflers.

Airmatic is second to none. But $$$ to repair. (Not sure if you get the awesome 7 speed auto in the 2004 model).

The V8 has excellent braking with 4 piston calipers up-front. Don't know about the V6...

After all that, you should be wary of the 2004 reliability issues.....

U may want to hold out and look for a 2005 E500.

OR consider a W210 E55 - 350hp, 380ish torque.

EDIT - I just looked at your pics. Is this really an E500? Its debadged, and it does not have the original AMG 18" rims which came with the AMG package (at least in 2005). Notice how mine are in my sig. (I have the 2005 model). Also notice the quad mufflers - Def. not part of the original AMG Sport Package. The package included dual AMG mufflers. If this is indeed an E500, the previous owner made the effort to make it look like an E55, but be advised this is not the original AMG package from the factory.
Make sure the mufflers upgrade was professionally installed without any hacking around the bumper. No doubt the car looks stunning.

Is this an MB dealership?

Good luck!
[quote=gaazmon;3830948]
Originally Posted by gnma
If u're into power - E500 all the way. Nothing like a MB V8. U'll get 26+ mpg on the highway and u'll get 339lb-ft torque at 2,700 rpms! That's what makes these motors insane - its peak torque right up front. And as rpm's increase, u'll enjoy the 302 hp! The power curve on this V8 is simply amazing. (And its not even an AMG)! Go drive both, and notice the difference in how each car launches.

Additionally, u're getting the AMG package which is eye candy, but was a $4K option back then and is actually pretty rare on a V8. It looks simply amazing. And its not an E55"wanna-be" because it has its own distinguished AMG dual tip mufflers.

Airmatic is second to none. But $$$ to repair. (Not sure if you get the awesome 7 speed auto in the 2004 model).

The V8 has excellent braking with 4 piston calipers up-front. Don't know about the V6.../QUOTE]

Ya, the 500 V8 is a great engine. Massive torque. You can really feel that push.

Yes, you get the 7 speed on 2004 E500. E320 doesn't have 4 piston calipers, instead 2 and not the brembo style look either. However, the E350 might have 4 piston I believe if it has the AMG sport package, but again not sure.
Originally Posted by gnma
7 speed auto only if the car is RWD.

That car is debadged, so its hard to tell if its RWD, and even if its a V8. Hopefully the OP is looking into these 2 issues as we speak,, err. I guess type/read?

I also noted the "AMG" engine cover. No way that's standard on an E500 or E350.

To the OP, make sure this car indeed is a V8. It may be, but double check, and it seems that the previous owner went to lengths to make give it the AMG look. The car also looks lowered, which means the suspension has either been lowered electronically, or by using "the washer method" which can be found here somewhere in the forum.

If I am right, I would be wary of this car. Not trying to scare you, but please make sure the car is what it is claiming to be - an E500. And find out if the suspension was modified, and how. (U sure those are 18's, and not 19's?) - that would explain the dropped look....

Good luck!
Originally Posted by gaazmon
right, if the car is 4matic it has the 5 speed. Oh, and I think if it is 4matic, even 500, it won't come with the nice brakes that say MB on them.
Originally Posted by gaazmon
Oh Snap!!! Did anyone else notice in the pic of the engine compartment, the engine cover says AMG on it??? I just saw it now. WTF???
Originally Posted by TopEndS62
the e500 has CLS55 AMG 19" wheels(hopefully previous owner did research for the correct tire fitment), no center mesh for the bumper, no foglight mesh on the left side..I'm all for performance, but be careful not to get anyone's leftovers..

Well guys thanks for all the info. What I can tell you is this car is located in a MB dealer. I drove it on Monday and I can tell you it has great power, really great. I have a BMW 540i so I know how it feels to drive it. The AMG package is an original MB parts as the dealer told me but as you noticed the quad is not the same as an E55. its a 5speed automatic gear box and its RWD...no 4matic. I can just say . while negociating we haven't agreed on the price which I think that its for my benefit. So I let go this amazing car (btw the car has lowered suspension). I really liked driving it but its quite like my 540i. the 2006 E350 didnt have all the options I wanted and didnt have the sound of the V8 engine.

The surprising part is while taking a look to all the cars I saw the brand new E350 2010 black on black avantgarde practically fully loaded, only the side curtains were missing and just to sit in it I felt like I was home.., so I told him to quote me his best price and Im waiting for his response...
do you think Im doing a mistake??????

10x to all of you
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Very different price range for a 2010. Beware of the upsell
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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2004 E500 RWD + 5 speed = ???

The above does not make sense to me. All the 04 RWD E500 came with 7 speed, AWD still came with 5. The 03 came with 5.

Are you in the US???

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gaazmon
2004 E500 RWD + 5 speed = ???

The above does not make sense to me. All the 04 RWD E500 came with 7 speed, AWD still came with 5. The 03 came with 5.

Are you in the US???
Hey man as I said in the begining its a european specs with 306bph. I donno what is the E500 US specs. is there so much difference??? Im sorry if i confused some of you...
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by michoblb
Hey man as I said in the begining its a european specs with 306bph. I donno what is the E500 US specs. is there so much difference??? Im sorry if i confused some of you...
now i see, ok. explains the front license plate.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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My 04' E-500 has over 100,000 Miles with very little problems. My 03' E-320 was a pile. Find a good autohaus for service and avoid the dealer. Also, aftermarket warranties are to be avoided as they will not cover anything that goes out on these cars. I have had Five (5) benzos from 95' on up and my E-500 is the best hands down.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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I find it amazing that an MB dealer is including a 1 year warranty on a car with a lowered suspension.

Also, be aware, those quad exhausts were NOT part of the original factory package.

Either way, good luck!
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gnma
I find it amazing that an MB dealer is including a 1 year warranty on a car with a lowered suspension.

Also, be aware, those quad exhausts were NOT part of the original factory package.

Either way, good luck!
different regions have different policies probably. I guess it just depends what area of the world you are in.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gnma
I find it amazing that an MB dealer is including a 1 year warranty on a car with a lowered suspension.

Also, be aware, those quad exhausts were NOT part of the original factory package.

Either way, good luck!
Originally Posted by gaazmon
different regions have different policies probably. I guess it just depends what area of the world you are in.

well I guess your right, when I was living in France, the one year warranty was for all parts but the mechanical parts weren't under warranty I had to pay a little extra to have it.

In the US, MB dealers dont give a warranty on lowered cars? y? hat is the reason?
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by michoblb
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In the US, MB dealers dont give a warranty on lowered cars? y? hat is the reason?
I didn't say that. I said I find it amazing that the car is covered by an MB dealer with a modified suspension.

Who modified it? And how? These are legitimate questions you should be asking the seller.

Why should the dealer warrant a car's suspension if the previous owner modified it using a "hack job"? Even if the owner used a lowering module, if its not MB approved, why should MB warrant that modified suspension once its no longer within factory design specs? That's why I stated that I am very surprised to see this car has a warranty on it from MB.

Which country are you in, and have you decided which car (or not) to choose?
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gnma
I didn't say that. I said I find it amazing that the car is covered by an MB dealer with a modified suspension.

Who modified it? And how? These are legitimate questions you should be asking the seller.

Why should the dealer warrant a car's suspension if the previous owner modified it using a "hack job"? Even if the owner used a lowering module, if its not MB approved, why should MB warrant that modified suspension once its no longer within factory design specs? That's why I stated that I am very surprised to see this car has a warranty on it from MB.

Which country are you in, and have you decided which car (or not) to choose?

Well im sorry man I didnt understand, now its clear . yeah well as the dealer told me the previous owner have made all those changes at the dealer garage. Perhaps thats Y its under warranty. I think that after not reaching the price I wanted on the E500, and still waiting for his quotation on the 2010 E350, if the price offer isn't dat good ill go for the 2006 E350 black on black I talked about previously but for sure will change the package to an AMG or a 2007 one. I'll keep u all informed about what will happen, hopefully next week I'll have some good news.
10x again for all your help.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Here is one thing to think about...... If you are financing the car then you have to think about how long you are going to be financing it for and also how many miles you will put on per year. Lets say you want to go with a 5 year loan and you drive 15000 miles per year. Well, in the case of the 2006 e350, in 2 years the car will have 100,000 miles and you will have 3 years left on loan, whereas the e500 will have 73,000 miles. Those are important factors to consider. The e500 has more useful life left than the e350, has more features, more power and torque, and has way less miles. In 4 years @ 15k per year, you will have 103000 miles on her. You do get the 1 year warranty so hopefully any major issues with the 500 should be worked out by warranty end. With these numbers I would go with the e500, but all things being equal, the choice for me would be the e350 due to the newer model year, upgrades, 7 speed tranny, and mechanical bugs worked out.
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