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03-12-2003, 12:13 AM
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Brabus Sport Exhaust
Cost was $1,980, plus shipping and sales tax. Only modification I made was to add some stainless steel washers to space the exhaust tips below the bumper apron so they don't hit it.
I originally ordered a Remus exhaust from CEC, but it was unavailable due to a quality problem.
Both require cutting off exhaust pipes and slipping new mufflers over existing pipes.
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I originally ordered a Remus exhaust from CEC, but it was unavailable due to a quality problem.
Both require cutting off exhaust pipes and slipping new mufflers over existing pipes.
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03-12-2003, 09:08 AM
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Sport Exhaust Systems
Both claim about 3-5% HP gain. Probably at the top end of RPM.
Sound on Brabus system, compared to the barely noticeable stock E500, is a nice, rich, powerful, low V-8 sound at idle, nicer sound on acceleration and really nice sound when you get on it, but not at all obtrusive at around town or freeway steady speeds. At no time does it sound like glass packs that have been gutted.
Whether the sound is worth the price is an individual decision. The Remus system is about $800 less than Brabus system. I liked the look of the Brabus system better. Another benefit is that my E500 will look a bit diffferent from all the other W211 series cars that will eventually appear on the street.
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Sound on Brabus system, compared to the barely noticeable stock E500, is a nice, rich, powerful, low V-8 sound at idle, nicer sound on acceleration and really nice sound when you get on it, but not at all obtrusive at around town or freeway steady speeds. At no time does it sound like glass packs that have been gutted.
Whether the sound is worth the price is an individual decision. The Remus system is about $800 less than Brabus system. I liked the look of the Brabus system better. Another benefit is that my E500 will look a bit diffferent from all the other W211 series cars that will eventually appear on the street.
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Legacy, what did you get for the $1980?
03-12-2003, 05:04 PM
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Brabus Sport Exhaust System
The price includes two stainless steel mufflers with the integral tips shown, mounting hardware and installation instructions.
The same system is used for both E320 and E500. The E320 must have smaller diameter exhaust pipes, as the Brabus system includes two SS reducing sleeves that are not used on the E500.
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The same system is used for both E320 and E500. The E320 must have smaller diameter exhaust pipes, as the Brabus system includes two SS reducing sleeves that are not used on the E500.
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03-13-2003, 06:04 PM
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Brabus Sport Exhaust
Both Brabus and Remus exhausts require cutting original exhaust pipes, removing original mufflers and then sliding new muffler exhaust pipes over existing pipes and securing with clamps. Mufflers mount with existing rubber hangers. No welding required.
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03-15-2003, 11:51 AM
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Sport Exhaust Systems
You can order Brabus Sport Exhaust, Part No. 211-670-00, for 2003 E320 and E500 by contacting:
Brabus North America, Inc.
4040 Campus Drive
Newport Beach, CA 92660
Phone: (949) 797-0177
Fax: (949) 797-9177
email: info@brabus-usa.com
My exhaust was shipped from stock by UPS ground.
Price is US$1,980.00 + shipping and any applicable sales tax.
Remus Sport Exhaust for 2003 E320 and E500, Part No. RM509302 0504L & RM509302 0504R can be ordered by contacting:
CEC (Claus Ettinger Corporation)
10349 Santa Monica Blvd.
West Los Angeles, CA 90025
Phone: (310) 203-3900
Fax: (310) 203-3909
email: a.cook@cecwheels.com
or
CEC
16200 South Figueroa St.
Gardena, CA 90248
Phone: 800-766-0064
Phone: 310-767-1111
Fax: (310) 329-3159
or
CEC East
295 North Street #6
Teterboro, NJ 07608
Phone: (201) 727-1100
Phone: (800) 846-1144
Fax: (201) 727-0388
Price US$589.00 each (left & right) + shipping and applicable sales tax.
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Brabus North America, Inc.
4040 Campus Drive
Newport Beach, CA 92660
Phone: (949) 797-0177
Fax: (949) 797-9177
email: info@brabus-usa.com
My exhaust was shipped from stock by UPS ground.
Price is US$1,980.00 + shipping and any applicable sales tax.
Remus Sport Exhaust for 2003 E320 and E500, Part No. RM509302 0504L & RM509302 0504R can be ordered by contacting:
CEC (Claus Ettinger Corporation)
10349 Santa Monica Blvd.
West Los Angeles, CA 90025
Phone: (310) 203-3900
Fax: (310) 203-3909
email: a.cook@cecwheels.com
or
CEC
16200 South Figueroa St.
Gardena, CA 90248
Phone: 800-766-0064
Phone: 310-767-1111
Fax: (310) 329-3159
or
CEC East
295 North Street #6
Teterboro, NJ 07608
Phone: (201) 727-1100
Phone: (800) 846-1144
Fax: (201) 727-0388
Price US$589.00 each (left & right) + shipping and applicable sales tax.
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03-15-2003, 12:00 PM
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You mentioned early on about installing stainless steel washers to loweer the mufflers for bumper clearance. Can you be more specific? Where are they installed? How many? Any other modifications?
Also, how "exact" was the installation instructions? I've installed kits from companies like HKS and they are very prcecise with absolutley no modifications required. Aside from your washer recommendation, will this be a similar experience?
thanks...vjd
PS: I pick up my car on Monday, so I don't have the opportunity to look underneath and see what I'm in for.
Also, how "exact" was the installation instructions? I've installed kits from companies like HKS and they are very prcecise with absolutley no modifications required. Aside from your washer recommendation, will this be a similar experience?
thanks...vjd
PS: I pick up my car on Monday, so I don't have the opportunity to look underneath and see what I'm in for.
03-15-2003, 12:33 PM
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Brabus Sport Exhaust Installation
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I am attaching an image of the installation hardware. There are two hangers that attach to the mufflers and are, in the designed installation with a Brabus rear bumper apron, supposed to mount so that the bracket welded to the muffler rests in the U-channel on the hanger. This won't work unless you cut a clearance opening in the bottom of the OEM bumper apron. I did not want to make any modification to the OEM bumper apron. So, I installed the hangers so that the muffler hangs from the threaded stud welded to the hanger. Putting it another way - the hanger is meant to have this threaded stud pointing up with the muffler bracket placed over it and the nut on top. I installed this hanger with the stud pointing down with the muffler bracket pushed up onto this stud and the nut at the bottom. I added about seven 5/16" SS washer on the left side and five of the same washers on the right side. The washers were placed onto the stud between the hanger and the muffler bracket to space the mufflers down. You can see the resulting space provided in my previous photos.
The instructions I received were fairly explicit. They show you where you have to make the cut in the existing exhaust pipes.
The clamps for the new pipes that slip over the old pipes should be slid onto the existing pipes after you make the cuts and before you slide on the new pipes/mufflers. The chrome plated straps span between the two new pipes with clamps painted black that are supplied on each muffler pipe. Take off the nut and washer and put the single hole over the clamp bolt at the bottom. The slots meet in the middle of the car overlapping with the single large SS bolts, washer and nut to fix them together.
The two SS sleeves are used for E320 only.
Before tighting everything up, check the clearance between mufflers and the underbody and the clearance between muffler outlets and bottom of bumper apron.
I backed my car onto a set of ramps to provide some working room. A lift would be even better. I used a Sawzall with an abrasive blade for stainless pipe to cut the exhaust pipes (available at Home Depot or Sears).
I hope this helps you out.
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I am attaching an image of the installation hardware. There are two hangers that attach to the mufflers and are, in the designed installation with a Brabus rear bumper apron, supposed to mount so that the bracket welded to the muffler rests in the U-channel on the hanger. This won't work unless you cut a clearance opening in the bottom of the OEM bumper apron. I did not want to make any modification to the OEM bumper apron. So, I installed the hangers so that the muffler hangs from the threaded stud welded to the hanger. Putting it another way - the hanger is meant to have this threaded stud pointing up with the muffler bracket placed over it and the nut on top. I installed this hanger with the stud pointing down with the muffler bracket pushed up onto this stud and the nut at the bottom. I added about seven 5/16" SS washer on the left side and five of the same washers on the right side. The washers were placed onto the stud between the hanger and the muffler bracket to space the mufflers down. You can see the resulting space provided in my previous photos.
The instructions I received were fairly explicit. They show you where you have to make the cut in the existing exhaust pipes.
The clamps for the new pipes that slip over the old pipes should be slid onto the existing pipes after you make the cuts and before you slide on the new pipes/mufflers. The chrome plated straps span between the two new pipes with clamps painted black that are supplied on each muffler pipe. Take off the nut and washer and put the single hole over the clamp bolt at the bottom. The slots meet in the middle of the car overlapping with the single large SS bolts, washer and nut to fix them together.
The two SS sleeves are used for E320 only.
Before tighting everything up, check the clearance between mufflers and the underbody and the clearance between muffler outlets and bottom of bumper apron.
I backed my car onto a set of ramps to provide some working room. A lift would be even better. I used a Sawzall with an abrasive blade for stainless pipe to cut the exhaust pipes (available at Home Depot or Sears).
I hope this helps you out.
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03-15-2003, 01:00 PM
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was '03 E320 - now - '04 S4
Looks great! I can see going with an exhaust on an E500 - V8 rumble, baby... but on my E320? I don't like the sound of a 6 cyl, auto tranny car with exhaust. Just my .02
plus - I'm a cheap b@stard (and would also have some real spousal issues) - 2 grand for an exhaust isn't going to happen in my household
Luckily - I got signoff on rims/tires already...
plus - I'm a cheap b@stard (and would also have some real spousal issues) - 2 grand for an exhaust isn't going to happen in my household
Luckily - I got signoff on rims/tires already...
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so does this mean all for pipes are in funtion or onlly two are funtioning on one side?! im sort of confused? i didnt know brabus had quads... and u said you had to do some works to the original piping so after that does it mean all four pipes are functinoing instead of only having the looks?!
