MasterMoparSB

Alright, so I noticed (took me a year and a half to find this out, I do not drive recklessly) that in C mode the car's top speed is ~131mph. The other night, while driving in S mode I was able to do ~140mph and the car kept pulling. Both these times where in the same location and after 4am.

Now, what's going on here? Anyone know what the governed top speed is in an E350 with the AMG sport package? Apparently it's faster in Sport mode? I was confused and was wondering if anyone else knows what's up.

nobogie

Did the car weigh the same and what were the winds doing.
was the road level or perhaps up or down just a bit.
I lived in Germany and spend very much time at full trottle and got used to the fact that a car dors not have one top speed but many.It all depends on all of these examples{and many others} of forces that effects the end result.
Could also be the cars settings but I can not answer about that.
Nobogie

Vik888

It should be 130mph on both settings.

You'll have to try again and update. I find it hard to believe. Its the first I'm hearing of it anyway.

lkchris

C mode for sure limits engine RPM. Does so in all transmission gears.

Regardless of that, top speed is electronically limited and I think all but actual AMG cars ("actual" doesn't include "AMG package" cars) will be either limited to 155 as they are in Germany or possibly less for the USA. Were yours a model (like the diesels for example) sold with H-rated tires, it would have been limited to 130.

MasterMoparSB

That's exactly what I was thinking, but it really hit 140 and kept going but I had to stop. The first time in Comfort I was alone, it stopped at 131 and no more, flat relatively straight road. This time in Sport, same road, same place, wit ha passenger this time. He witnessed it as well as did I.

It's weird I tell ya

2slowcdi

I had my car out on a track (2006 E-320 CDI) and in four passes it would get to 130 mph and stop, I have W-rated tyers.
The EURO CDI will get 152mph with the same setup.
I had mine Chipped and was wanting to get the limiter removed it did not happen.

nobogie

HMMm all those limiters make me wonder.
I was slowly pondering letting my 82 Jaguar xj-s 12 go,but then again its nice to have a car with no limited that can still get on the right side of 150.{the car is mildly improved.}
As I stated previously found that at top speed it takes very little variation from optimal conditions to reduce topspeed noticably.Just do the math for wind resistance at 130mph.
It would be nice with a few good fast legal roads in this country.
That said Americans are not yet ready for no speedlimit.No offence
I just found it more dangerous to do 70 on a freeway here than 130 in Germany.
Nobogie

socketman

It should be 155

gnma

From the owner's meets I've attended, I"ve heard the owners say that US Spec. MB's are limited to 130 mph, (which means they would get trounced in one of those ever so famous "highway real TV shows", once other cars got up to that speed). Very ironic that these autobahn blasters can only do 130 once they reach the US - it seems to be some agreement between MB and their US cars.

I do bel. AMG offers a "performance option" for $10,000 where the limit is upped to 155mph and some other useless items for that price - not sure exactly which models.

lkchris

If they're sold with H-rated tires they would for sure be limited to 130.

Also note that by law "speedometer advance" is built in to German speedos, meaning they MUST never read lower than actual speed and most often read higher. The usual number is 10% higher, and obviously the actual number varies with speed. So, at actual 130 the speedo could easily read 130 + 13 = 143.

skiahh

Why would a car maker intentionally make a speedometer read higher than actual? I understand not allowing it to read lower and putting safeguards in place, but to intentionally make it read faster? That doesn't make any sense... it's not an airspeed indicator with position error! And by making it read faster, does it mess with the odometer, too?

TheGreatOne45

its something the germans do

Vik888

W211 = 130
W211 AMG = 155
W211 AMG 030 Perf Package = 186

Same limits across most of the MB cars for the U.S. market.

2slowcdi

This is my understanding also.

As far as the speedometer reading faster than you are going on just about every car that I have owned from the out set of GPS "15 years", Yes most are off by no more than 3 mph so 63mph is 60mph, but my CDI is on the money.

I believe it has more to do with tire size than anything else.
On my last car I had 225-55-16 as my Benz but the different tires had different diameters for the same size tires.

MasterMoparSB

I underhand the conversation, and I knew the speed limits on different models were 130, 155 and 186, but how can we explain my car? I'm going to have to take a video or picture of the speedo, I'm not lying.

2slowcdi

Some one had it removed or they skipped up at the factory.
I know a person that has a 05 CDI and has told me that he can go
over 130 mph, I have no reason to not to believe him.

I just know most MB owners are limited to set speeds and you are
a lucky one that is not, Be Happy even if you never use it you still
have it.

MasterMoparSB

Ok here to end the discussion. Just came in, she stopped at 135 tonight in Sport lol.

gaazmon

liability is a strong force in this country. they purposefully limit it to 130 in case the car comes with V, Z, W, or Y rated tires and the owner then just puts on H-rated tires. the e350 sports come with V or W rated tires i believe, which can handle 149mph, but if you switch to H, it can only handle 130. imagine if you put H's and you took the thing over 130+ for a long period of time... "melt" As well the speed and load index for the 350 is 95H

this was the so called "gentleman's agreement" between numerous european car manufacturers. i think some japanese ones as well

my car with the appearance "sport" package originally comes with W tires, when i bought it it came with H tires, and now I have W tires again

DubVBenz

I've had my 420 SEL up to 132, but have no surpassed 115 on my bluetec.

Polar Bear

You can easily change the speed limiter on the gasoline cars with an SDS in Developer mode in the ME control module, but I have not found a way to change the CDI yet.

NorseWagon

I read somewhere in the E-500 Wagon manual that top speed is 162 MPH or 260 km/h. Never had it above 115 MPH or 184 km/hr...yet

Mantooth

That says 130mph. If I were you, I would verify it by your GPS next time you go for a high speed run.

Polar Bear

Where are you in NC?

SAguirre

My 04 E320 stops at exactly 135 MPH (statute miles) no matter what! Sometimes I can get it to 140 if I am downhill, but the engine stops . There is plenty of power left, but you can tell the governor is limiting the throttle.

Steve

Mackhack

I have a picture driving on the I-15 with 127 mph and 144 mph. I need to see where they are so I can post it. As Polar Bear said, you can simply increase the max speed allowed to max 250 km/h. If you want to have it higher you need to go to a dealership. They have to inquire at MB in Stuttgart for a specific file. Once your dealer has that file (it can take several weeks) they can use it and flash your ME ECU and you can have 300 km/h, 320 km/h, and 340 km/h and 365 km/h. Do a google conversion for mph (too lazy).

Remember, a F1 car does about 315 km/h max today! Sense and nonsense to even have your car at 250 km/h in the US is debatable with a legal speed limit of max 75 mph.