drzcrazychulo4u

hey everyone i have a 2007 e350 RWD sport which are the best brakes? and if you could please direct me to which are meant for my car thanks

loudbmw

I have had good luck with Akebono Euro Ultra Premium Ceramic Brake Pads on my C320 and BMW 530i. I don't need them yet on my E350. Best part - no brake dust!

Lou

LOVEMYBS

+1, I replaced my OEM pads with Akebono and I'm really pleased with the results. No dust, no noise, great stopping and reasonably priced. Google Akebono and look for the best price.

pinebaron

Akebono ceramics without a doubt; no dust. It takes a few miles of use before the brakes bed in and dust minimizes; that's my personal experience. Braking appaears to be even better than OEM though my goal was to minimize dust.

drzcrazychulo4u

did you guys buy the Akebono with the shims?? or without?? thanks in advance

pinebaron

I ordered them from Tirerack in 12/09, these did not come with shims.

LOVEMYBS

No shims, I also painted my calipers at the same time as they tend to show wear and rust.

PHDZINE

My stock pads stopped better than the Porterfields I replaced them with but I will never go back to the stock pads due to the brake dust.

jcjr

When I mentioned to my local Mercedes tech that I had replaced the pads in my wife's R500 with ceramics (to reduce dust) he looked at me like I had taken a shot at the Pope. He told me that he absolutely DOES NOT recommend the installation of any pads outside of the OE. His rationalization was that, yes, the semi-metallic OE pads do produce quite a bit of brake dust but that they provide the best stopping power and, more importantly, they were extremely soft (compared to any ceramic pads) in order to protect the rotors.

I'm still trying to process his comments, so that I can make my own assessment but I do know a couple of things:
1) From my personal experience, I think that the ceramic pads stop just as well, if not better than the OE pads. This is in agreement with the comments of many forum users, as well as those of industry pundits that I've read on line, which leads me to believe that the ceramics are a good option.

2) I have no experience with examining the degree of rotor damage done by ceramics versus that of the very soft and dusty, OE pads. This is the big unknown to me.

Is there anyone out there who can offer some insight?
...have you seen more rapid rotor wear caused by ceramics?

Obviously this would cause future brake maintenance to be exponentially expensive, so I'd like to avoid that eventuality if at all possible.

anewbie

I have to admit that I know little about brake pad materials. However, looking at the Tirerack website (I assume pretty reputable) - these ceramic pads are rated at: 5/5 for noise, 5/5 for dust, but 2/5 for stopping power. If you look at the rating of other brake pads on the website, you can almost reach the conclusion that low dust ~ low stopping power, high stopping power ~ high dust.

Silly_me

Same logic goes for tires, less wear less traction.

lkchris

My insight would be that Mercedes is pretty much the #1 car company in the world and it has a reputation for safety innovation that's unequaled.

To somehow believe the hype from a small aftermarket firm that they can do better seems questionable. If these pads were the best, Mercedes would likely be fitting them.

In addition, let's all give humanity some credit by remembering that the ultimate achievements are associated with advanced education. Some "survey" at somebody's website is meaningless in the face of actual engineering testing, and the place where the best engineers are is not doing website surveys and is not working at small, aftermarket "marketing" companies.

Don't worry about rotor wear--in the 21st century it's one set of rotors per one set of pads anyway.

Vik888

Stick'n with the OEM pads .. car gets detailed once a week and no one has yet to tell me their aftermarket pads have better stopping power than the OEM pads .. STOPPING POWER people .. thats why we have brakes .. amazing some of you will sacrifice stopping power for less dust.

werewolf34

OEM design is to consume the rotor at a higher rate than older specs and the OEM pads are high dust by spec. The good people at MB want you to have a great braking system that needs more frequent changes (and washes)

The stopping power of the e-class is almost too good (have to think about who is behind you at times)

If you want to try another set of pads, I'd look at the Pagid Reds (Pagid is an OEM to BMW) - less dust but not that different from OEMs. Also replacing brake pads is one of the easier DIYs out there if you want to try.

PHDZINE

My E550 has more than enough brakes to stop safely so to loose alittle for ALOT less brake dust...I think thats a fair trade off.

anewbie

This, I believe! It's a business. They don't want to make the car too low maintenance - parts and services have high profit margins. And there is enough brand loyalty for people to stick to OEM. After market parts, on the other hand, is much more competitive, and the makers need to earn the trust of consumers. The trusts don't come from low price, they come from value, which is quality and price combine. Based on this, I have no trouble believing good reputable after market parts can be functionally equivalent to OEM, AND last longer.

Everybody is entitle to his/her own opinions

Still_Waters_43

I would think that it really comes down to those once in a while emergency stops. On everyday stops I dont believe anyone can even tell if they can stop quicker or not with the different pads.

However, let's say your doing 50MPH and have to hit the brakes (full on) in a hurry (and for the sake of argument lets assume you can stop quicker with the softer OEM pads) even if it's just 5 or 10 feet!.... do you want that extra safety margin?....... I do

anewbie

See! That's the brand loyalty I am talking about ... why automatically assume the OEM pads stop quicker, not the other way around? I rest my case.

Still_Waters_43

No automatic assumption in play here, just facts. The OEM pads are softer than the ceramics, softer means stickyer (just like tires) which means better grip, and hence shorter stopping distance .

ElleShooTiger

Ceramics arent any harsher on rotors than semi-metallics IMHO. Or maybe its just that different companies have vastly different braking hydraulics. I have an Impala and replaced the front rotors and ceramic pads at around 80k, rotors were barely worn except for a shredded pad which grooved one rotor, so both were replaced along with regular ceramic pads. 120k miles later, the rotors are barely worn, but I did replace the pads as they were getting low. These cars tend to suffer from warped rotors, but excessive rotor wear is never a problem.

My parents 06 E350 is due for brakes at about 50k miles. The front rotors are HEAVILY worn, the wear surface is a good 1+ mm under the original surface, and they feel very thin. My mom drives this car, mostly city, but still, the rotors shouldnt be this bad so early. So original semi-metallics - heavy wear, and tons and tons of dust.

I also have a 2003 BMW 540i and I recently did a brake job on it at 44k miles. All rotors were also worn and replaced, but the wear wasnt terrible. Still, decided to go ahead and do everything and not have to worry about it for another 40-50k. Again, semi-metallics - heavy wear, and plenty of dust.

On the BMW, I went with the original pads as some people complain about the Akebono ceramics lack of grip when cold. The E350 will be getting Akebonos though, the dust has been terrible and the severe rotor wear is ridiculous.

haris12

Ok guys i have 04 E320 and i always used the OEM pads till last year when i was told that i need to change all rotors. in 6 years i had to replace brade pads 3 times so every other year, and then 6 years later rotors too. Thats when i said F this, I Ordered Akebono brake pads from Tire rack front and rear then i went to R1 concept website and ordered cross Drilled & slotted rotors.
Rotors were $310 shipped all four, pads were $140 shipped.

Installed them in my opinion i have better braking power but thats just me, plus no brake dust.
Year later i am still happy customer with my setup.