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Are there ang changes for 04' ??

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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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Are there any changes for 04' ??

Does anyone know if there are goint to be any changes to the 04 E-class. And if so What are they. I am Supposed to be placing an order this week. I can't really make up my mind. 320 or 500. I Was originally going to get a 500, But the gas mileage is so bad. If anyone has any info, It will be greatly appreciated.

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Old May 21, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Changes for 2004 - THE PRICE!

No confirmation yet, but some speculation & guesstimates is the car will get the 3.7 liter engine and be the E350 and 240HP. It is really overdue. The E320 has had 221HP since 1998 and all the competition has more or slated to get more.

If you want the E500 get it. Don't worry about the gas mileage - We (U.S.) now control 'one quarter' of the worlds oil reserves after "freeing" the Iraqi Oil I mean people. Once the U.N. sanctions are lifted gas prices should drop even more.

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Old May 21, 2003 | 10:44 AM
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Thanks for replying, and thanks for the info. Do you happen to know if the E500 will have the 7 speed Transmission for 2004. Also is it true that the NAV will not be available until feb 2004.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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The 7 speed is going into the S-Class and CL-Class for 2004 and slated for the 2005 E-Class.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by E55 KEV
The 7 speed is going into the S-Class and CL-Class for 2004 and slated for the 2005 E-Class.
Are you sure about this? The official Diamler-Chrysler press release on 7G-Tronic (7 speed tranny) said that it would be available as of autumn 2003 and specifically mentioned E500.

Also, all previous posts see to indicate no E350 in 2004, but of course nothing official on this unlike the press release on 7G-Tronic.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by abhansali
[B]Are you sure about this? The official Diamler-Chrysler press release on 7G-Tronic (7 speed tranny) said that it would be available as of autumn 2003 and specifically mentioned E500.

The tranny 'debuts' in Autumn. No telling when they will make it to US production. That Autumn timeframe is the "World Premiere".

If the tranny 'world premieres' in Autumn it will be after the start of 2004 US production or the 2004 E500 and S & CL Classes. Unless these productions are delayed.

The 7 Speed is only for the V8's.

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Old May 21, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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Kev-
You mentioned the price, with a smiley face, I assume this means the price is decreasing. Can you elaborate?

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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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the price is dropping? can't be. a small increase perhaps, unless some additional equipment is standard and that factors into overall base price.

conflicting info on the E350. autoweek said no for 2004, but some german language website quoted here a couple weeks back mentioned a mid 2004 model year changeover from the E320 to E350. all this uncertainty does makes it hard to figure out what/when is the best time to buy.
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Originally posted by nyca
the price is dropping? can't be.
Agreed! When was the last time you guys saw a price drop on anything? We may get more bang for the buck (i.e. an E500 for the price of an E430) but base prices rarely, if ever, go down.

By all accounts, there is a price increase of under 5% in store for the 2004 E Class.
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Originally posted by Turbo2
Kev-
You mentioned the price, with a smiley face, I assume this means the price is decreasing. Can you elaborate?

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Not dropping, the only guaranteed change will be the price - as in higher prices for 2004.

BTW, that is not a "smiley face" that is a 'big *** grin' in a devilish kind of way.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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Ah...the "big *** grin" changes my whole outlook, I knew it was too good to be true.

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Old May 22, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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price increase

I predict a price increase of less then 3%, this segment is too competitive, new 5 series and Lexus GX coming, and 2003 sales for the E were not booming,
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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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Price increase?

Kev- I take it you work at or are somehow privy to dealer sources? Is it your understanding that any price increase will apply across the board to all Merecedes or is it possible the E Class might escape due to its market positioning? I could see Mercedes USA adding some options in as standard which could justify some increase, but don't really think they would want to push the E Class even further out of it intended midrange market segment.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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I predict a price increase of less then 3%, this segment is too competitive, new 5 series and Lexus GX coming, and 2003 sales for the E were not booming,
Don't forget that the value of the dollar has dropped a lot lately.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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these companies hedge against currency fluctuation.
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Re: Price increase?

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Kev- I take it you work at or are somehow privy to dealer sources? Is it your understanding that any price increase will apply across the board to all Merecedes or is it possible the E Class might escape due to its market positioning? I could see Mercedes USA adding some options in as standard which could justify some increase, but don't really think they would want to push the E Class even further out of it intended midrange market segment.
northbenz, Sorry I don't have any "insider" information. All just reasonalbe specualation. I just try to track stuff like prices, specs, updates as much as possible for my own personal knowledge and to reply on this board with stuff that hopefully is useful to all.

I am not sure how Mercedes increases prices, whether a flat percentage for some models or a flat dollar amount. Sometimes the increase make no sense and are all over the map.
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My guess is that they will make a relatively small percentage increase on the base price - Not over 2%. They will then make large increases on their already overpriced options.
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sales are not strong enough to allow big price increases in popular options, unless they plan on cutting production of the car.
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just by changing up the option packages for the new year, which they are doing, makes it very easy to slip in some price increases right under our noses.
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'04 E500/Sport or E55 when I can
make up my mind!!


Hey MBPRINCE, if the $18K price difference is not a deterrent, any indecision on which car to buy suggests to me you aren't AMG material. The difference between the cars is night and day.
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Re: price increase

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I predict a price increase of less then 3%, this segment is too competitive, new 5 series and Lexus GX coming, and 2003 sales for the E were not booming,
GX? You mean GS right?
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Dr. Chill,

I am picking up an 03 E500/sport this week and will drive it 'till the 04's have the nav and voice command working and then I will get the E55. I just don't want to wait any longer but my mind is made up. Let me know when you get your 04!! I will change my sig as soon as I get the new car and post some pics......
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