Kids and door locks...
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Kids and door locks...
The door locks in my E lock automatically when speeds exceed 9 mph.
However, I do not see a way to "lock out" the rear door locks while driving. Meaning, is there some way to keep the rear doors locked and shut, even if kiddos on the inside are pulling at the door handles?
Right now, it seems that if you're driving and pull on the door handle, it will open. Is this the case?
I haven't tried opening the doors on the move yet...
However, I do not see a way to "lock out" the rear door locks while driving. Meaning, is there some way to keep the rear doors locked and shut, even if kiddos on the inside are pulling at the door handles?
Right now, it seems that if you're driving and pull on the door handle, it will open. Is this the case?
I haven't tried opening the doors on the move yet...
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HUGE OVERSIGHT on MB's part in my opinion! We havre kiddo's and had we noticed this prior to purchase the car would have been eliminated. Our oversight. Very irresponsible ommission on MB's part!
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Re: Kids and door locks...
Originally posted by NuBenz
The door locks in my E lock automatically when speeds exceed 9 mph.
However, I do not see a way to "lock out" the rear door locks while driving. Meaning, is there some way to keep the rear doors locked and shut, even if kiddos on the inside are pulling at the door handles?
Right now, it seems that if you're driving and pull on the door handle, it will open. Is this the case?
I haven't tried opening the doors on the move yet...
The door locks in my E lock automatically when speeds exceed 9 mph.
However, I do not see a way to "lock out" the rear door locks while driving. Meaning, is there some way to keep the rear doors locked and shut, even if kiddos on the inside are pulling at the door handles?
Right now, it seems that if you're driving and pull on the door handle, it will open. Is this the case?
I haven't tried opening the doors on the move yet...
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So, when locked...
the rear doors cannot be opened when the handle is pulled. Correct?
I guess that's reasonable. But still, when driving and the doors are locked, one can still open either front door by simply pulling on the handle.
Hmmm, a bit strange and risky to me! Maybe a "convenience" design. I'd rather have no handles work if the doors are locked.
It should be safer that way...
I guess that's reasonable. But still, when driving and the doors are locked, one can still open either front door by simply pulling on the handle.
Hmmm, a bit strange and risky to me! Maybe a "convenience" design. I'd rather have no handles work if the doors are locked.
It should be safer that way...
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Re: So, when locked...
Originally posted by NuBenz
the rear doors cannot be opened when the handle is pulled. Correct?
I guess that's reasonable. But still, when driving and the doors are locked, one can still open either front door by simply pulling on the handle.
Hmmm, a bit strange and risky to me! Maybe a "convenience" design. I'd rather have no handles work if the doors are locked.
It should be safer that way...
the rear doors cannot be opened when the handle is pulled. Correct?
I guess that's reasonable. But still, when driving and the doors are locked, one can still open either front door by simply pulling on the handle.
Hmmm, a bit strange and risky to me! Maybe a "convenience" design. I'd rather have no handles work if the doors are locked.
It should be safer that way...
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I think something like that should be an option. Really, any kind of accommodation for children should be an option. I do firmly believe in child safety and MB should lead the way in that category. Still, people that have children should pay extra for the option (if it's more expensive for the manufacturer). Those without children or whose children are grown should not have to pay extra for that convenience unless they choose to do so.
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I seem to have the problem opposite of what is described in the first post in this thread. After I start driving and the doors lock, the rear passengers cannot unlock their doors, even when the car is stopped. I have to remember to hit the unlock switch on the dashboard. For me this is a problem simply because my kids are old enough that I am not worried about locking them in, and it takes someone trying and failing to open the door before I remember to hit that switch.
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I am not at my car, but I have a dim recollection that there are child-safety locks. However, I believe they need to be engaged mechanically. Does anyone have access to their car? If so, open one or both back doors and look at the interior door sill that faces the B and C pillars. There should be one of those infamous MB stickers that advises how to engage the child locks.
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I checked. There are no tabs on the door frame, like many US cars, to make the interior handles freewheel. You can only open those types of locks from outside, regardless of power locks. "Childproof locks".
To open the MB rear doors from inside, the lock plunger must be manually raised or the power locks opened to permit the door to open. The front doors unlock the door simply by pulling the interior handle, the rear's won't. Whether that unlocks all your locks depends upon the lock settings.
I don't know whether you can raise the lock plunger on the rear doors while in motion, or will the auto lock feature continue to engage the lock while the car is in motion, much like the trunk opener will not work at speed. Somebody with rear passengers needs to try that.
To open the MB rear doors from inside, the lock plunger must be manually raised or the power locks opened to permit the door to open. The front doors unlock the door simply by pulling the interior handle, the rear's won't. Whether that unlocks all your locks depends upon the lock settings.
I don't know whether you can raise the lock plunger on the rear doors while in motion, or will the auto lock feature continue to engage the lock while the car is in motion, much like the trunk opener will not work at speed. Somebody with rear passengers needs to try that.
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MB only includes child locks on vehicles destined for countries that require them by law. All German market MB's have child safety locks. USA spec vehicles do not, I can only assume that this is yet another cost cutting measure by MB. Safety should never be comprimised because of cost concerns. Shame on MB !!
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'03 E320 CDI Avantgarde '00 Renault Mégane Coupé 1.6 16v (wife).
My car has children locks on rear doors.
I have a 2 year old girl. she sits on the leftside and I have that door children locked: only can be opend from outside if entire car is unlocked
Anyway the right rear door can be opened from inside at any moment, even whith the auto-lock enabled
Every 4 or 5 door car here has rear chidren lock. Even a '65 Renault Gordini when I was a child.
I have a 2 year old girl. she sits on the leftside and I have that door children locked: only can be opend from outside if entire car is unlocked
Anyway the right rear door can be opened from inside at any moment, even whith the auto-lock enabled
Every 4 or 5 door car here has rear chidren lock. Even a '65 Renault Gordini when I was a child.
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I checked mine out today. After the doors lock automatically, the rear doors cannot be opened while it is moving. Actually, they can't be opened until the front door is opened or the unlock button on the dash is pushed.
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We have child locks here in the UK. With my 6 and 8 year old they are a must.
The rear doors cannot be opened from the inside whether the car is running or not. By lifting a latch near the shut plate the child locks can be deactivated for when you are carrying adults.
Anyone get their arm pinched by the button as you go over 9 mph and the doors lock? My fault for resting it on the window sill - but it hurt and bruised. take care!!!!!!!!
Marc
The rear doors cannot be opened from the inside whether the car is running or not. By lifting a latch near the shut plate the child locks can be deactivated for when you are carrying adults.
Anyone get their arm pinched by the button as you go over 9 mph and the doors lock? My fault for resting it on the window sill - but it hurt and bruised. take care!!!!!!!!
Marc
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The unlock button on the dash is to allow the doors to be open from the OUTSIDE. It has no effect on the child locks.
You would use the button when stopping to pick up a passanger - otherwise they cannot get in.......
Marc
You would use the button when stopping to pick up a passanger - otherwise they cannot get in.......
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Possible solution
I found out that the child lock is going to be an issue with my car too.
However, here's a possible solution, even if a little ungainly.
The rear door handle will not open the door if the little plunger is down. So unscrew and remove the plunger.
Then, the only ways to unlock the rear door will be to press the button on the dash, use the remote or use one of the front handles to unlock all doors.
Mehul
However, here's a possible solution, even if a little ungainly.
The rear door handle will not open the door if the little plunger is down. So unscrew and remove the plunger.
Then, the only ways to unlock the rear door will be to press the button on the dash, use the remote or use one of the front handles to unlock all doors.
Mehul
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1998 C230
I have a baby-smart switch on my shifter console area.
when activated it prevents the passenger airbag from going off (incase of a babyseat+baby there) and also it stops the rear doors/windows from being unlocked/opened by any rear passengers.
when activated it prevents the passenger airbag from going off (incase of a babyseat+baby there) and also it stops the rear doors/windows from being unlocked/opened by any rear passengers.
