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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dlombeclass
Could I get to check my engine? 2006 E350, 51,500K miles.
VIN WDBUF56J06A918619
All 2006 E350 have the problem. Your engine number is 272964 30 263860 which is in the range.
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 07:40 PM
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Can you please be kind enough to check mine
2004 E320 4matic.
VIN WDBUF82JX4X120050
90,000 KM

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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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112 engine (320) is not included only 272 (350) & 273 (550).
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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
112 engine (320) is not included only 272 (350) & 273 (550).
Thank you konigstiger. Much relieved.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:23 AM
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sorry for not getting back sooner. Car has been fixed, I have noticed a much better acceleration, and no diesel sound intermittently. if you're looking for symptoms I would say sluggish, some times while car is idling it sounds like a quite diesel rattle front of motor. also as I was in the car, once at idle in park, the rpms dropped and ran rough for a second or two then idle normal, did this three or four times. good luck to the rest. Now I'm dealing with the driving going into neutral feel, have to shift from drive to neutral several times then go into gear.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 12:05 PM
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Plutoe it is a C280

I wrote after it was repaired: here were the "symptoms". I read that others wonder what to look for if no CEL on. This is why I read post and don't get involved sorry for helping.

As to the later my trans is acting up and was hoping someone had info to maybe post some help.

So don't run while reading
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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“A California federal judge has granted preliminary approval of a class action settlement to resolve defective engine allegations against Mercedes-Benz U.S.A., LLC.”

“The Mercedes class action settlement is for “all current and former owners and lesses of Mercedes-Benz branded automobiles equipped with M272 or M273 engines bearing serial numbers up to 2729..30 468993 or 2739 ..30088611, found in the Subject 2005 – 2007 Model Year Vehicles respectively (the ‘Subject Vehicles’), who purchased or leased their Subject Vehicles within the United States.”

See here http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-s...nary-approval/
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 06:06 PM
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Hi:
It is a 2008 (built in July 2007) ML 350 with number
4JGB...3000050
Must started making noise today and it does have a 272 engine according to be booklet.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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MY08 you should be fine, check your PM.
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 02:03 PM
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um, 'scuse me .. but .. is it me ... or is Konigstiger's post above regarding the class action settlement a huge and total BOMBSHELL !!!????!!! To have Balance Shaft sprocket replacement covered by MBUSA !?!?!?! I would have expected much more fan fare and reaction to this announcement. This is like the sword of Damocles taken away from over your M272 heads... 105k miles on my 2006 M272 and no sign of Balance Shaft issue (yet) ... but this takes all the pressure off ... if this announcement is indeed the real deal and I understood it correctly (repair now covered by MBUSA).
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Old Apr 21, 2015 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 801
um, 'scuse me .. but .. is it me ... or is Konigstiger's post above regarding the class action settlement a huge and total BOMBSHELL !!!????!!! To have Balance Shaft sprocket replacement covered by MBUSA !?!?!?! I would have expected much more fan fare and reaction to this announcement. This is like the sword of Damocles taken away from over your M272 heads... 105k miles on my 2006 M272 and no sign of Balance Shaft issue (yet) ... but this takes all the pressure off ... if this announcement is indeed the real deal and I understood it correctly (repair now covered by MBUSA).
It's a proposed settlement so it's not done yet. Also on the bottom end, it mentions 10 years or 125k and that the coverage could be 100%, 70% or 37.5%. That last bit, 37.5% isn't that great because some dealers fixed it under goodwill for 50% of the repair costs. Probably need more details before it's a good settlement. Because it was just 2006 and some 2007 models, 10 years means that you're only going to get one or two years of warranty coverage at most.
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 11:29 PM
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engine no check????

My R350 has been having multiple issues that we feel are balance shaft related. We are trying to figure out if our M272 Engine is included in the serial numbers ranges that have been affected. Our vin is 4JGCB56E88A067504 and the engine no is 27296730724855.
Any help understanding the ranges would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 12:21 PM
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You’re fine. Clean point for 272 engine is 30 468993 (as of OCT 06 production).
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 08:20 AM
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The dreaded M272 Balance Shaft

Would you mind checking mine for me please? I have a 2007 R350, the check engine light is on and I've been told the codes state that I have a cam shaft timing issue. I tried looking up my VIN# to determine the engine number and it looks like my engine number isn't covered but it also seems confusing. My vin # is 4JGCB65E27A059338
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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You're fine.
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
You're fine.
I appreciate you looking that up for me, but I'm confused. I've been told by two different shops (not Mercedes) that I have the balance shaft issue and that its a $5-$6K repair. If I have the issue and I'm not covered by the law suite it would seem that i'm screwed instead of fine
Should I take it in to Mercedes and see what they diagnose? Any other thoughts?
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 02:23 PM
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MB tech comment: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211...l#post11767737 – have dealer diagnose it.

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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
MB tech comment: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211...l#post11767737 – have dealer diagnosed it.
Thanks, I will. I will post when I have their diagnosis.
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Old May 6, 2015 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
MB tech comment: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211...l#post11767737 – have dealer diagnose it.
OK, Just heard back from the MB dealer. It is definitely the balance shaft issue even though the engine number is out of range. They have refused to cover the cost of repair. They say MB is saying the litigation has not been settled. My car is past due on inspection since Oct 14 and it won't pass with this issue. Total cost of repair $6914.00. Not sure what to do now.
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Old May 6, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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Old May 12, 2015 | 08:39 PM
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I can't access the EPC website on my mac to check my 2007 C230. My mechanic thinks it has the balance shaft issue and I would like to confirm. The VIN is WDBRF52H17E027970. Thanks!
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Old May 12, 2015 | 10:44 PM
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I can't access the EPC website on my mac to check my 2007 C230. My mechanic thinks it has the balance shaft issue and I would like to confirm. The VIN is WDBRF52H17E027970. Thanks!
Engine number is 272 920 30 490401 with a build date of 2/22/2007. So it shouldn't have the balance shaft problem.
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Old May 17, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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I just got a letter notice from US District Court .
Notice of pendency and proposed settlement of class action.

Did anyone else get same?

Lots of legalize and some choices offered.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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I just got a letter notice from US District Court .
Notice of pendency and proposed settlement of class action.
Did anyone else get same?
Lots of legalize and some choices offered.
I received one, too. But I have received my 2015 C300, and I no longer own my previous 2007 C280.

There are no choices concerning the proposed settlement. The proposed settlement is:
  • for 8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever is less) from the In Service Date, MBUSA will pay 70% of the "reasonable" [as defined by whom? MBUSA?] cost of the repair and
  • for 10 years (but over 8 years) or 100,000 miles (but over 80,000 miles), MBUSA will pay 37.5% of the "reasonable" cost of the repair.
This settlement does nothing for previous owners who no longer own the car (like myself). There is no compensation for loss of value, either potential (for present owners) or actual (previous owners). I know I lost one potential purchaser for my C280 because of this problem. At first, he was very interested. But after he returned home, I didn't hear from him. He is a mechanic on high-end cars, so I figured he had checked the engine number. It was not until then that I checked the engine number and found that my car was affected.

Not only did I lose a potential purchaser, I realized that I could not in good conscience sell my car to any friend or relative. Even if I told them about the defect (and took the hit on the price), I would not want to hear later that one of them had suffered the high costs of this repair, let alone had been stranded on the road because of this defect. I was not much more interested in selling to a stranger. A stranger might come after me, as MBUSA customers have come after them. So I could only trade in my C280. (Oddly, there was no mention of this defect at the dealer. I assume it was factored into a lower price they offered me.)

Present owners are the most likely future buyers of an auto maker's products. Compare MBUSA's treatment of their future customers with how Pontiac treated a former landlady of mine. This was 20 years ago, before American auto makers had been humbled. Her Pontiac had a cracked cylinder head. Pontiac had already extended the warranty on this repair to 100,000 miles(!). Her car had 110,000 miles. However, it was not very old. (She had a killer commute.) So Pontiac covered the repair anyway. There is no way that Mercedes should be given a lesson on customer service by an American auto maker!

(Someday I will get around to updating my signature with my present, much appreciated 2015 C300.)
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