The dreaded M272 Balance Shaft
Also, for those who have hit this, what has been the general repair cost you've been quoted?
Last edited by harperb; May 18, 2015 at 07:35 PM.
- for 8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever is less) from the In Service Date, MBUSA will pay 70% of the "reasonable" [as defined by whom? MBUSA?] cost of the repair and
- for 10 years (but over 8 years) or 100,000 miles (but over 80,000 miles), MBUSA will pay 37.5% of the "reasonable" cost of the repair.
If I were to get my car repaired this week for the said $8000.
Does that mean if this lawsuit passes I will ONLY be getting a 37.5% deduction on the bill?
My car is under 100k miles but over 80k. Less than 10 years old.
Thank you
Last edited by jiyun12; May 18, 2015 at 08:53 PM.
VIN# WDBRF52H36A915187
I would like to know if my Benz is under this law suit... Thank you...
Dear sirs –
Upon reading the proposed settlement in the abovementioned case, I request further clarification of the terms from you.
The settlement appears to exclude all vehicles whose repair is not within 10 years of the In Service Date. My understanding of In Service Date, as defined in the Settlement Agreement, is that date which the vehicle is delivered to the original purchaser. I note that original purchaser is not defined. This provides for unnecessary ambiguity. Please clarify if I am to consider the date the dealership took possession of the vehicle; or the date the car was sold or leased to its first private owner?
You will note that almost all 2005 & 2006 Mercedes models will have In Service Dates that will precede the date of the proposed Final Approval Hearing by 10 years or more, regardless of the answer to the question I pose above, thereby eliminating all claim, should the suspect parts not have shown any signs of defect prior to the Final Approval Date.
So, at the risk of sounding inflammatory, I am unable to see how the settlement substantially benefits the Settlement Class Members, as you have stated in your notice . Other than $2,475,000 in fees to yourselves and $21,000 to the plaintiffs, most class members will receive nothing for the alleged defective parts and failure to notify.
I do note that if 1,750 individuals within the Settlement Class elect to be excluded, Mercedes can withdraw from the settlement. Based on my assessment of the terms, I feel that is an extremely possible outcome.
Dear sirs –
Upon reading the proposed settlement in the abovementioned case, I request further clarification of the terms from you.
The settlement appears to exclude all vehicles whose repair is not within 10 years of the In Service Date. My understanding of In Service Date, as defined in the Settlement Agreement, is that date which the vehicle is delivered to the original purchaser. I note that original purchaser is not defined. This provides for unnecessary ambiguity. Please clarify if I am to consider the date the dealership took possession of the vehicle; or the date the car was sold or leased to its first private owner?
You will note that almost all 2005 & 2006 Mercedes models will have In Service Dates that will precede the date of the proposed Final Approval Hearing by 10 years or more, regardless of the answer to the question I pose above, thereby eliminating all claim, should the suspect parts not have shown any signs of defect prior to the Final Approval Date.
So, at the risk of sounding inflammatory, I am unable to see how the settlement substantially benefits the Settlement Class Members, as you have stated in your notice . Other than $2,475,000 in fees to yourselves and $21,000 to the plaintiffs, most class members will receive nothing for the alleged defective parts and failure to notify.
I do note that if 1,750 individuals within the Settlement Class elect to be excluded, Mercedes can withdraw from the settlement. Based on my assessment of the terms, I feel that is an extremely possible outcome.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG

thank you very much in advance for any info!
thank you very much in advance for any info!
In every urban neighborhood there are people to whom car owners turn when they want car problems like this to "go away." I do not recommend contracting their services, unless you come from a family with a couple generations of experience with the rules of this game.
The only remaining question, then, is to whom one should unload the vehicle legally. The choices are: a friend (or, worse, a relative), a stranger, or a dealer. I stand by what I previously wrote, "I realized that I could not in good conscience sell my car to any friend or relative. Even if I told them about the defect (and took the hit on the price), I would not want to hear later that one of them had suffered the high costs of this repair, let alone had been stranded on the road because of this defect. I was not much more interested in selling to a stranger. A stranger might come after me, as MBUSA customers have come after them. So I could only trade in my C280."Only at a dealer would I be comfortable in not mentioning this defect (as, in fact, I did not, because I did not know about it). I would feel justified in assuming that they knew about it already and would factor this defect into the price they would offer. After all, in the pre-Internet world, one would have to go to a dealer to find out this information.
Last edited by gfmohn; May 28, 2015 at 04:59 PM.
thank you again for your views, I appreciate them.
VIN is 4JGBB86E98A369428
Thank you so much in advance!
I am running into the same issue of CEL with DTC code P0022 on my 2007 E-350 4-Matic that I recently purchased with 64k miles on the odometer.
Car has 272 engine and 646 transmission.
Could someone do me a favor and run the VIN # and let me know if my car engine is one of the affected ones ?
VIN # WDBUF87X17X215677
Engine no.: 272972 30 462814
Transmission: 722676 06 646849
Thanks,
-Irfan Qayyum




