The dreaded M272 Balance Shaft
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I can't access the EPC website on my mac to check my 2007 C230. My mechanic thinks it has the balance shaft issue and I would like to confirm. The VIN is WDBRF52H17E027970. Thanks!
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I can't access the EPC website on my mac to check my 2007 C230. My mechanic thinks it has the balance shaft issue and I would like to confirm. The VIN is WDBRF52H17E027970. Thanks!
#278
I just got a letter notice from US District Court .
Notice of pendency and proposed settlement of class action.
Did anyone else get same?
Lots of legalize and some choices offered.
Notice of pendency and proposed settlement of class action.
Did anyone else get same?
Lots of legalize and some choices offered.
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MBUSA does the minimum for their best customers
There are no choices concerning the proposed settlement. The proposed settlement is:
- for 8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever is less) from the In Service Date, MBUSA will pay 70% of the "reasonable" [as defined by whom? MBUSA?] cost of the repair and
- for 10 years (but over 8 years) or 100,000 miles (but over 80,000 miles), MBUSA will pay 37.5% of the "reasonable" cost of the repair.
Not only did I lose a potential purchaser, I realized that I could not in good conscience sell my car to any friend or relative. Even if I told them about the defect (and took the hit on the price), I would not want to hear later that one of them had suffered the high costs of this repair, let alone had been stranded on the road because of this defect. I was not much more interested in selling to a stranger. A stranger might come after me, as MBUSA customers have come after them. So I could only trade in my C280. (Oddly, there was no mention of this defect at the dealer. I assume it was factored into a lower price they offered me.)
Present owners are the most likely future buyers of an auto maker's products. Compare MBUSA's treatment of their future customers with how Pontiac treated a former landlady of mine. This was 20 years ago, before American auto makers had been humbled. Her Pontiac had a cracked cylinder head. Pontiac had already extended the warranty on this repair to 100,000 miles(!). Her car had 110,000 miles. However, it was not very old. (She had a killer commute.) So Pontiac covered the repair anyway. There is no way that Mercedes should be given a lesson on customer service by an American auto maker!
(Someday I will get around to updating my signature with my present, much appreciated 2015 C300.)
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I actually just bought a 2006 E350 with 55K miles last week (my local mechanic mistakenly diagnosed the CEL during the PPI as a oil change issue at first), and it turns out it has this issue. Could someone post or PM me a copy of what you received, so I can pursue action on this?
Also, for those who have hit this, what has been the general repair cost you've been quoted?
Also, for those who have hit this, what has been the general repair cost you've been quoted?
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I feel for you. You do want to know about this class action, but you are almost beyond the very limited relief it offers. As I wrote above,
- for 8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever is less) from the In Service Date, MBUSA will pay 70% of the "reasonable" [as defined by whom? MBUSA?] cost of the repair and
- for 10 years (but over 8 years) or 100,000 miles (but over 80,000 miles), MBUSA will pay 37.5% of the "reasonable" cost of the repair.
#283
class action
I would like to please know if my Benz is under this law suit... my vin is WDBUF56J66A923548
#284
So I received this mail today as well, I am not a lawyer and I read enough of the legal writing as I can, which has left me with a question.
If I were to get my car repaired this week for the said $8000.
Does that mean if this lawsuit passes I will ONLY be getting a 37.5% deduction on the bill?
My car is under 100k miles but over 80k. Less than 10 years old.
Thank you
If I were to get my car repaired this week for the said $8000.
Does that mean if this lawsuit passes I will ONLY be getting a 37.5% deduction on the bill?
My car is under 100k miles but over 80k. Less than 10 years old.
Thank you
Last edited by jiyun12; 05-18-2015 at 08:53 PM.
#285
My car is 2006 Mercedes C230
VIN# WDBRF52H36A915187
I would like to know if my Benz is under this law suit... Thank you...
VIN# WDBRF52H36A915187
I would like to know if my Benz is under this law suit... Thank you...
#286
Not a good settlement
Based on my review of the settlement terms, I wrote the following email to the plaintiff's attorney. If you have not had any repairs done, you may want to opt out and preserve your right to claim for this defect at a later date. If you have had repairs done previously, you should attach to the settlement and get some of your money back.
Dear sirs –
Upon reading the proposed settlement in the abovementioned case, I request further clarification of the terms from you.
The settlement appears to exclude all vehicles whose repair is not within 10 years of the In Service Date. My understanding of In Service Date, as defined in the Settlement Agreement, is that date which the vehicle is delivered to the original purchaser. I note that original purchaser is not defined. This provides for unnecessary ambiguity. Please clarify if I am to consider the date the dealership took possession of the vehicle; or the date the car was sold or leased to its first private owner?
You will note that almost all 2005 & 2006 Mercedes models will have In Service Dates that will precede the date of the proposed Final Approval Hearing by 10 years or more, regardless of the answer to the question I pose above, thereby eliminating all claim, should the suspect parts not have shown any signs of defect prior to the Final Approval Date.
So, at the risk of sounding inflammatory, I am unable to see how the settlement substantially benefits the Settlement Class Members, as you have stated in your notice . Other than $2,475,000 in fees to yourselves and $21,000 to the plaintiffs, most class members will receive nothing for the alleged defective parts and failure to notify.
I do note that if 1,750 individuals within the Settlement Class elect to be excluded, Mercedes can withdraw from the settlement. Based on my assessment of the terms, I feel that is an extremely possible outcome.
Dear sirs –
Upon reading the proposed settlement in the abovementioned case, I request further clarification of the terms from you.
The settlement appears to exclude all vehicles whose repair is not within 10 years of the In Service Date. My understanding of In Service Date, as defined in the Settlement Agreement, is that date which the vehicle is delivered to the original purchaser. I note that original purchaser is not defined. This provides for unnecessary ambiguity. Please clarify if I am to consider the date the dealership took possession of the vehicle; or the date the car was sold or leased to its first private owner?
You will note that almost all 2005 & 2006 Mercedes models will have In Service Dates that will precede the date of the proposed Final Approval Hearing by 10 years or more, regardless of the answer to the question I pose above, thereby eliminating all claim, should the suspect parts not have shown any signs of defect prior to the Final Approval Date.
So, at the risk of sounding inflammatory, I am unable to see how the settlement substantially benefits the Settlement Class Members, as you have stated in your notice . Other than $2,475,000 in fees to yourselves and $21,000 to the plaintiffs, most class members will receive nothing for the alleged defective parts and failure to notify.
I do note that if 1,750 individuals within the Settlement Class elect to be excluded, Mercedes can withdraw from the settlement. Based on my assessment of the terms, I feel that is an extremely possible outcome.
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Based on my review of the settlement terms, I wrote the following email to the plaintiff's attorney. If you have not had any repairs done, you may want to opt out and preserve your right to claim for this defect at a later date. If you have had repairs done previously, you should attach to the settlement and get some of your money back.
Dear sirs –
Upon reading the proposed settlement in the abovementioned case, I request further clarification of the terms from you.
The settlement appears to exclude all vehicles whose repair is not within 10 years of the In Service Date. My understanding of In Service Date, as defined in the Settlement Agreement, is that date which the vehicle is delivered to the original purchaser. I note that original purchaser is not defined. This provides for unnecessary ambiguity. Please clarify if I am to consider the date the dealership took possession of the vehicle; or the date the car was sold or leased to its first private owner?
You will note that almost all 2005 & 2006 Mercedes models will have In Service Dates that will precede the date of the proposed Final Approval Hearing by 10 years or more, regardless of the answer to the question I pose above, thereby eliminating all claim, should the suspect parts not have shown any signs of defect prior to the Final Approval Date.
So, at the risk of sounding inflammatory, I am unable to see how the settlement substantially benefits the Settlement Class Members, as you have stated in your notice . Other than $2,475,000 in fees to yourselves and $21,000 to the plaintiffs, most class members will receive nothing for the alleged defective parts and failure to notify.
I do note that if 1,750 individuals within the Settlement Class elect to be excluded, Mercedes can withdraw from the settlement. Based on my assessment of the terms, I feel that is an extremely possible outcome.
Dear sirs –
Upon reading the proposed settlement in the abovementioned case, I request further clarification of the terms from you.
The settlement appears to exclude all vehicles whose repair is not within 10 years of the In Service Date. My understanding of In Service Date, as defined in the Settlement Agreement, is that date which the vehicle is delivered to the original purchaser. I note that original purchaser is not defined. This provides for unnecessary ambiguity. Please clarify if I am to consider the date the dealership took possession of the vehicle; or the date the car was sold or leased to its first private owner?
You will note that almost all 2005 & 2006 Mercedes models will have In Service Dates that will precede the date of the proposed Final Approval Hearing by 10 years or more, regardless of the answer to the question I pose above, thereby eliminating all claim, should the suspect parts not have shown any signs of defect prior to the Final Approval Date.
So, at the risk of sounding inflammatory, I am unable to see how the settlement substantially benefits the Settlement Class Members, as you have stated in your notice . Other than $2,475,000 in fees to yourselves and $21,000 to the plaintiffs, most class members will receive nothing for the alleged defective parts and failure to notify.
I do note that if 1,750 individuals within the Settlement Class elect to be excluded, Mercedes can withdraw from the settlement. Based on my assessment of the terms, I feel that is an extremely possible outcome.
#288
My mom's 2006 falls within those numbers and has 63,0000 miles. However I'm not clear on what the 'In Service Date' is. If it's when when the car was originally purchased then who would now fall under the 8 year/70% reimbursement category unless it sat in the lot for a couple of years?
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My mom's 2006 falls within those numbers and has 63,0000 miles. However I'm not clear on what the 'In Service Date' is. If it's when when the car was originally purchased then who would now fall under the 8 year/70% reimbursement category unless it sat in the lot for a couple of years?
#290
Ok that's what I thought. It just seems like the first warranty cancels out a majority of owners who have this yet to face this problem (even if it's within the next month) unless it happened atleast a year before the settlement. Most cars would be registered in 2005 or 2006 which is already 1-2 years past the 8 years/70% reimbursement as it's 2015. Maybe I'm making it to sounds more confusing than it should.
#291
Hello, we just got a letter about this lawsuit and are trying like mad to figure it all out. It is my wifes car and she is really worrying about this, for good reason. Would anyone be kind enough to tell us if her car is affected by this lawsuit? It is a 2006 SLK 280. So far no check engine lights and all is well but.... we would love the piece of mind and I know my beautiful bride would sure sleep better if her baby wasn't part of this issue.
thank you very much in advance for any info!
thank you very much in advance for any info!
#292
forgot the VIN!! WDBWK54F16F104694 2006 skl 280
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Hello, we just got a letter about this lawsuit and are trying like mad to figure it all out. It is my wifes car and she is really worrying about this, for good reason. Would anyone be kind enough to tell us if her car is affected by this lawsuit? It is a 2006 SLK 280. So far no check engine lights and all is well but.... we would love the piece of mind and I know my beautiful bride would sure sleep better if her baby wasn't part of this issue.
thank you very much in advance for any info!
thank you very much in advance for any info!
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In every urban neighborhood there are people to whom car owners turn when they want car problems like this to "go away." I do not recommend contracting their services, unless you come from a family with a couple generations of experience with the rules of this game. The only remaining question, then, is to whom one should unload the vehicle legally. The choices are: a friend (or, worse, a relative), a stranger, or a dealer. I stand by what I previously wrote, "I realized that I could not in good conscience sell my car to any friend or relative. Even if I told them about the defect (and took the hit on the price), I would not want to hear later that one of them had suffered the high costs of this repair, let alone had been stranded on the road because of this defect. I was not much more interested in selling to a stranger. A stranger might come after me, as MBUSA customers have come after them. So I could only trade in my C280."
Only at a dealer would I be comfortable in not mentioning this defect (as, in fact, I did not, because I did not know about it). I would feel justified in assuming that they knew about it already and would factor this defect into the price they would offer. After all, in the pre-Internet world, one would have to go to a dealer to find out this information.
Last edited by gfmohn; 05-28-2015 at 04:59 PM.
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Thank you gfmohn, I think what you just said is spot on an absolutely agree with your sentiments on selling the car. My wife is heading down the path of trading it in. We haven't had it that long, this issue has been known by folks longer than we have owned the car so it was sold by a dealer and I feel they had to know the issue was out there. Its a brutal world we live in now where a handshake holds none of the grace it used to. I guess to sum it all up we were quite let down to realize Mercedes Benz was but another car maker who values their product less than the profit they make,
thank you again for your views, I appreciate them.
thank you again for your views, I appreciate them.
#298
VIN is 4JGBB86E98A369428
Thank you so much in advance!
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Hi, I'd appreciated very much if someone can let me know if WDBUF56X87B027557 is affected, thank you.