Will you buy a Mercedes Again?
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2012 S550 4MATIC, 2007 R-350
Yes I will get another one..
I own a Toyota that has 200,000 + miles and also a Mercedes that has 140,000 miles. I just realized that my Mercedes will never be as reliable as my Toyota and my Toyota will never be as luxurious and beautiful as my Mercedes.
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I owned a W203 C-class from the time it had 25,000 miles at 3 years of age until it was 8 years old and had almost 150,000. The most expensive thing to happen was the A/C compressor failure, but otherwise it was mostly just maintenance. I bought another.. and another.. and hopefully more to come.
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The interesting thing is that the Toyota will last that 200,000 miles without many issues because they're meant to be point A to point B machines and they do that very well. The Mercedes may last 2x as long as that while still feeling almost new, but due to its inherent complexity it will require a lot more repairs in comparison along the way.
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'03 SL55 AMG | 2021 AMG GLE 63s Coupe
Really? We're actually going to compare a Toyota to a Mercedes-Benz? May as well compare a Gulfstream 650 to a Cesna 172.
(First thought was the space shuttle in place of the Gulfstream, but I'm being more realistic.)
:-)
(First thought was the space shuttle in place of the Gulfstream, but I'm being more realistic.)
:-)
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2014 BMW M235i
My point is that they are built for very different purposes with inherent weaknesses. So yes in that respect it does make sense to compare them. But going along with the aircraft motif, even more outlandish, Mercedes are like the space shuttle that are expensive and powerful, and will take you millions to get to the moon. Toyotas are like crop dusters air planes, small, simple and do their mundane job over and over without issue.
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The interesting thing is that the Toyota will last that 200,000 miles without many issues because they're meant to be point A to point B machines and they do that very well. The Mercedes may last 2x as long as that while still feeling almost new, but due to its inherent complexity it will require a lot more repairs in comparison along the way.
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From: Norway
2005 E200k and 2014 E300CDI HYBRID
Im from Norway and right now I own 2 mercedes cars,one I drive as privite and the otherone is my work car,a taxi.As privite I will always drive an Mercedes,I just cant see myself driving anything else,Im afraid if I buy something else that im gonna get dissapointed and get bitter cause I didnt buy Mercedes.Unfortunutly Mercedes is no longer anything more special then some other brands that produce luxury cars,therfore Im really in doubt if im gonna have an Mercedes as a work car next time.
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2007 GL450 - 2010 A6 3.0L
If I ever do, (1) it will be a flagship product built in Germany, not in Alabama or Hungary, and (2) it will not be a new model in its first year of commercialization!
My 2007 GL450 carries both these sins above and despite having been maintained better than any other car I've ever owned, its horrendous reliability has turned this truck into a huge disappointment for me.
With three kids and two dogs, I need a 3-row SUV with a usable and comfortable 3rd row. At this point, I'm considering the Buick Enclave, the Dodge Durango and the Nissan Armada. Yeah, I know, GM and Dodge ain't that reliable either, and Nissan is not Lexus, but there is just no way they can be as bad as this expensive, unreliable, poorly-built lemon sitting in my garage right now...
My 2007 GL450 carries both these sins above and despite having been maintained better than any other car I've ever owned, its horrendous reliability has turned this truck into a huge disappointment for me.
With three kids and two dogs, I need a 3-row SUV with a usable and comfortable 3rd row. At this point, I'm considering the Buick Enclave, the Dodge Durango and the Nissan Armada. Yeah, I know, GM and Dodge ain't that reliable either, and Nissan is not Lexus, but there is just no way they can be as bad as this expensive, unreliable, poorly-built lemon sitting in my garage right now...
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2007 e320
Never Never Never
I bought a 2007 320E that had the oil cooler replaced by a certified MB mechanic. Car had swirl motor die and go into limp mode. In trouble shooting found air filters as dirty as I've ever seen in a car ever (I'm 53 with 6 cars and have worked on cars for 40 years). MB tech didn't replace these? After changing out the filters the car was blowing so much oil out of the crankcase it was impossible to keep running the car.
Even though I was told by 3 certified mechanics that it could not be the issue I removed teh turbo and found that the exhaust was blowing into the oil line. I've now replaced (major pain in the *** because of poor design) and no more oil blow by. The car still does not run right because I'm still working on getting the resistance right to bypass the swirl motor. Computer codes are worthless, and why does it not allow the turbo to run just because a redundant piece of polution control doesn't work. Crappy engineering (I'm an Engineer). Designed to send to back to the dealer so they can make money on service. Parts are not available and take weeks to get too.
My CTS is hard to work on, but way better documentation and much more mechanic friendly.
Fool me once. Never twice.
Even though I was told by 3 certified mechanics that it could not be the issue I removed teh turbo and found that the exhaust was blowing into the oil line. I've now replaced (major pain in the *** because of poor design) and no more oil blow by. The car still does not run right because I'm still working on getting the resistance right to bypass the swirl motor. Computer codes are worthless, and why does it not allow the turbo to run just because a redundant piece of polution control doesn't work. Crappy engineering (I'm an Engineer). Designed to send to back to the dealer so they can make money on service. Parts are not available and take weeks to get too.
My CTS is hard to work on, but way better documentation and much more mechanic friendly.
Fool me once. Never twice.
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From: Pottstown, PA
'97 S500 Coupe, 2016 AMG S63 Coupe, 2007 Audi Q7
I own a 1990 Honda Accord bought new no real work brakes, tires, radiator finally went, and just normal service with a little over 185k miles, and repainted. 2000 Lexus Rx300 bought new, Transmission replaced cost $6k(big complaint with early RX), now driveshaft failure cost around 1k to fix vehicle has 255k miles. 1997 S500 coupe bought used only issues one engine coil, interior temp sensor motor, and driver side mirror wires, brakes and tires, and no other issues. CLK 430 replaced hydraulic cylinders (one was leaking and with age replaced all), and hydraulic hose, brakes and tires, and no other issues. 2005 E320 replaced Brakes and rotors, tires, need to paint both bumpers, otherwise no issues.
Every car will cost something in maintenance and with more electronics big issues can occur outside of the engine and transmission. It all comes down to what are you willing to spend to maintain the current money pit, or what to spend to buy new money pit? The question I always ask is can I buy the same type of car+2 years for the cost of the maintenance? If the answer is no it's normally cheaper to keep (unless major issue occurs in 2 consecutive years).
Make a budget for maintenance and if the car exceeds the target it is time to move on.
Every car will cost something in maintenance and with more electronics big issues can occur outside of the engine and transmission. It all comes down to what are you willing to spend to maintain the current money pit, or what to spend to buy new money pit? The question I always ask is can I buy the same type of car+2 years for the cost of the maintenance? If the answer is no it's normally cheaper to keep (unless major issue occurs in 2 consecutive years).
Make a budget for maintenance and if the car exceeds the target it is time to move on.
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From: Derby, KS
2005 MB C230K Sport Sedan & 2011 MB C300
Yes, I'd buy another Mercedes. My current 2005 C230 is about to break 186,000 miles. I purchased it in September 2010 with 76,600 on the odometer.
My moms 2011 C300 was purchased in Feb. 2012 with 11,000 miles. She is on the verge of breaking 71,000 miles.
Both cars are WAY out of warranty. I maintain both cars with my own hands and tools. Zero problems on both cars aside from regular maintenance (brakes, tires, oil changes, air filter, etc)
I'm hoping to break the 200,000 mile mark with mine, and my Mom is pretty adamant about keeping her C300 for the long term even though I keep trying to convince her to get into a E-class or ML SUV
My moms 2011 C300 was purchased in Feb. 2012 with 11,000 miles. She is on the verge of breaking 71,000 miles.
Both cars are WAY out of warranty. I maintain both cars with my own hands and tools. Zero problems on both cars aside from regular maintenance (brakes, tires, oil changes, air filter, etc)
I'm hoping to break the 200,000 mile mark with mine, and my Mom is pretty adamant about keeping her C300 for the long term even though I keep trying to convince her to get into a E-class or ML SUV
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From: Charlotte NC area
2019 WS222 S450 4-Matic / 2007 W211 E350 4Matic (Sold) / 2008 X164 GL320 CDI
Holy Sh*t, have not seen anyone mention the 21R since I built my '71 Celica.
I could not afford a 21R so had to build my 18R to keep the car under the 2000CC class line so I could clean up against 1600 cars.
P.S. I intend to replace our 07 E350 with the newest 4Cyl diesel E-series I can afford when it decides to cost more in repairs than it is worth.
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From: Charlotte NC area
2019 WS222 S450 4-Matic / 2007 W211 E350 4Matic (Sold) / 2008 X164 GL320 CDI
Here is the test. (Not MB specific, but certainly applies to most modern German cars).
I am rebuilding a 2000 Audi A6 Quattro with parts from a 2002 A6 Parts car.
Not a single bolt I have found is rusted, seized, or stuck.
Show me a 15 or 13 year old Japanese car (even their high lines) that does not show significant surface rusting underneath and probably would fight you to remove any of the underside exposed fasteners.
I am rebuilding a 2000 Audi A6 Quattro with parts from a 2002 A6 Parts car.
Not a single bolt I have found is rusted, seized, or stuck.
Show me a 15 or 13 year old Japanese car (even their high lines) that does not show significant surface rusting underneath and probably would fight you to remove any of the underside exposed fasteners.
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From: Staten Island, NY
2010 MB S550, 2017 MB SLC 300
The interesting thing is that the Toyota will last that 200,000 miles without many issues because they're meant to be point A to point B machines and they do that very well. The Mercedes may last 2x as long as that while still feeling almost new, but due to its inherent complexity it will require a lot more repairs in comparison along the way.
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From: Long Island NY
E550
Buy another? Had a W210 with 150K miles and except for the miles and a few minor rust spots she never let me down. I figured it was time for an upgrade. Since the first day I've had my W211 E550 its been one thing after the other. I'm ready to put this one up for sale and try to find a nice W210 AMG. Every part I have needed has been in the hundreds of $$$$ and the light at the end of the tunnel is an on coming freight train
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W211
My W210 got me to 230K miles without ever leaving me stranded. I only gave it up as it was in an accident and got totaled by the insurance company. I am knocking on wood with my W211. I have 120K on it and going really strong.
As to the question, will I buy another MB? Definitely.
As to the question, will I buy another MB? Definitely.
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From: North Central Texas
2007 CLK350 Cabriolet
Hate to say it, but the worst car I have ever owned (2007 CLK350). I do all my own car repairs and am a Mechanical engineer, been working on cars as a hobby for over 40 years. Worked on all styles models and makes. Not at all impressed with MB Engineering, they do things that would get me fired in my job. MB engineering is straight out of the Rube-Goldberg school of thought. All the new tools I had to buy and the ridiculously stupid way things are put together baffles me. How can this car company have such a great reputation? Yes they are built like tanks, but they are so inelegant and unneccesarily complex. Lots of stuff breaks, headlights last a fraction of other cars, key FOB batteries have to be replaced every 3-6 months, windshield washer pump out, trim pieces just falling off, have to disassemble underside of car to change oil, chrome on the wheels started bubble to flake off and ruined the beads of my tires, and lets not mention the ridiculous procedure for resetting the maintenance notifications. We bought it with 65K and the first thing I had to do was rebuild the front end. All the rubber bushings were rotting out and I live in Texas, no salt on the roads, not a lot of rain, very easy on cars. There are way better options in cars out there, but my wife loves driving the Mercedes convertible. And I guess that is what it comes down too.
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Buy another? Had a W210 with 150K miles and except for the miles and a few minor rust spots she never let me down. I figured it was time for an upgrade. Since the first day I've had my W211 E550 its been one thing after the other. I'm ready to put this one up for sale and try to find a nice W210 AMG. Every part I have needed has been in the hundreds of $$$$ and the light at the end of the tunnel is an on coming freight train
But F yeah I'll buy another Mercedes but I'll never own it out of warranty
The problem is that the most reliable cars on the planet don't give me any emotional thrill like the most expensive cars on the planet
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From: Always under a Grey Cloud.
E55AMG 2000 E55 AMG 1921 Ford T Speedster
I'm not an MB Guy whatsoever.
My thoughts of it as being an old mans car and now womans car.
Just my thoughts.
I used to read car mags. like the pope reads the bible. So he's supposed to.
One car.....the AMG E55..grabbed me hard. I so loved it's looks and performance.
Used to be a BMW guy but in the last decade they included HAL to do everything.
Plus the styling is bad.
I will buy another E55 AMG Because of it all.
Besides that..there are no others.
Don't care about hp and this and that.
They just don't look good like most cars today.
My thoughts of it as being an old mans car and now womans car.
Just my thoughts.
I used to read car mags. like the pope reads the bible. So he's supposed to.
One car.....the AMG E55..grabbed me hard. I so loved it's looks and performance.
Used to be a BMW guy but in the last decade they included HAL to do everything.
Plus the styling is bad.
I will buy another E55 AMG Because of it all.
Besides that..there are no others.
Don't care about hp and this and that.
They just don't look good like most cars today.
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From: dmv
2009 E550 2000 Honda civic mash n' go
Hell yeah i'd buy another one. If you are driving a car that was 70k$ brand new and think its a shytbox because it's expensive to fix/maintain, then sell it. These aren't your fully loaded accord v6's or altima 3.7 ect ect. MERCEDES BENZ CREME DE LE CREME. You gotta pay to play and if you're bitter about paying then you clearly don't wanna play.
edit: I'd drive a E39 M5 in a heartbeat, never an audi and obviously a porsche. IMO these cars are great. They have their flaws just like any manufacture, difference is you get the keys to a benz, not a yota, neesan, subie, or honda....
edit: I'd drive a E39 M5 in a heartbeat, never an audi and obviously a porsche. IMO these cars are great. They have their flaws just like any manufacture, difference is you get the keys to a benz, not a yota, neesan, subie, or honda....
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From: Charlotte NC area
2019 WS222 S450 4-Matic / 2007 W211 E350 4Matic (Sold) / 2008 X164 GL320 CDI
Hell yeah i'd buy another one. If you are driving a car that was 70k$ brand new and think its a shytbox because it's expensive to fix/maintain, then sell it. These aren't your fully loaded accord v6's or altima 3.7 ect ect. MERCEDES BENZ CREME DE LE CREME. You gotta pay to play and if you're bitter about paying then you clearly don't wanna play.
edit: I'd drive a E39 M5 in a heartbeat, never an audi and obviously a porsche. IMO these cars are great. They have their flaws just like any manufacture, difference is you get the keys to a benz, not a yota, neesan, subie, or honda....
edit: I'd drive a E39 M5 in a heartbeat, never an audi and obviously a porsche. IMO these cars are great. They have their flaws just like any manufacture, difference is you get the keys to a benz, not a yota, neesan, subie, or honda....
Why a Porsche and not an Audi?
