Tuning of the M113 engine.
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W211 E500 -03
Tuning of the M113 engine.
Hello Gentlemen...
I'm about to make an tuning effort on my E500 (Euro spec) and I wonder how much it get me if I tuned it by chip tuning..?
Is there any other ways of tuning it whithout changing the looks of the engine..?
Normal power of this car is about 306hp and 460Nm of torque.
.....**Thanks**.
I'm about to make an tuning effort on my E500 (Euro spec) and I wonder how much it get me if I tuned it by chip tuning..?
Is there any other ways of tuning it whithout changing the looks of the engine..?
Normal power of this car is about 306hp and 460Nm of torque.
.....**Thanks**.
Last edited by Harrys500; Jun 28, 2013 at 06:26 AM.
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W211 E500 -03
Yeah, I'm from Sweden alright and due to that I have poor spelling but I hope it's still readable...
According to that liqueur Akvavit, I like as an schnaps but wouldn't for dear life put it in my car or in the engine so I would like to have some serious inputs to my quest about how much power a chip would be able to give me from that old chunky M113 engine in my car.
Some chip tuner here in Sweden promised me some 31hp and up to 50Nm in torque only by tuning it, I have some doubts about those figures.
...........**Thanks**.
According to that liqueur Akvavit, I like as an schnaps but wouldn't for dear life put it in my car or in the engine so I would like to have some serious inputs to my quest about how much power a chip would be able to give me from that old chunky M113 engine in my car.
Some chip tuner here in Sweden promised me some 31hp and up to 50Nm in torque only by tuning it, I have some doubts about those figures.
...........**Thanks**.
Last edited by Harrys500; Jun 28, 2013 at 05:39 PM.
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06 S211 E500 4Matic
Chip tuning on naturally aspirated engines is the worst upgrade. You will gain 10hp/10Nm MAYBE. I have faith in Mercedes engineers and that they can tune their own engines for optimum performance. Spend your money on exhaust instead.
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W211 E500 -03
I was right about 31hp/50Nm, it won't happen as it seems. I have changed the rear mufflers to more open variants but the rest is original, the sound of the car became nice at least. What more is there to do and could it be combined whith chip tuning as well to get even more result..?
........**Thanks**.
........**Thanks**.
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06 S211 E500 4Matic
I don't know what to recommend for you as I don't think the E500s are tuner-friendly. I'd say intake, exhaust, manifolds are your pretty much only options. Yes, there are supercharger upgrades, but it will be cheaper selling the car and simply getting an AMG.
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W211 E500 -03
Okay, so that gives me in actually no options.....
I know that Kleemann has a bunch of different tuning options but as You've mentioned it'll cost an arm and a leg to that.
I'll see what I could live whith, although I'd like to do something to it to make it a bit more responsive. It's pretty quick to respond as it is but one always want some more sooner or later....
..........**Thanks**.
I know that Kleemann has a bunch of different tuning options but as You've mentioned it'll cost an arm and a leg to that.
I'll see what I could live whith, although I'd like to do something to it to make it a bit more responsive. It's pretty quick to respond as it is but one always want some more sooner or later....
..........**Thanks**.
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2005 c55 AMG, 2006 Kleemann E50 K, 1997 Acura-CL Custom
Tuning an M113
I still have all of my ARMS and LEGS.
And I also have the only 06 w211 Kleemann e50K in the US. K for kompression.
BUT it did cost a buncha change. Once You start its hard to stop.
I wanted mine to look as stock as possible. Wolf in sheep's clothing kinda thing. A sleeper. Cept for the rims and tires. BTW I had a flat this weekend and my donut spare wont fit over the big brakes!!!
Look them up and don't do a "chip"...get your ECU tuned by a trained pro.
If you have any questions let me know. Ive gone about as far as i can go without disrupting the body. Although my son is telling me to get the E63 deck spoiler and tailights.
And I also have the only 06 w211 Kleemann e50K in the US. K for kompression.
BUT it did cost a buncha change. Once You start its hard to stop.
I wanted mine to look as stock as possible. Wolf in sheep's clothing kinda thing. A sleeper. Cept for the rims and tires. BTW I had a flat this weekend and my donut spare wont fit over the big brakes!!!
Look them up and don't do a "chip"...get your ECU tuned by a trained pro.
If you have any questions let me know. Ive gone about as far as i can go without disrupting the body. Although my son is telling me to get the E63 deck spoiler and tailights.
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W211 E500 -03
Well, the big one is the price for all that tuning by Kleemann, I believe it's cheaper over there compared to here in the neighbour country to where the stuffs are made, Denmark.
I happen to live in Sweden and everything seems to be unecessary expensive here, regardless of where it's manufactured and I simply can't understand why...
Been surfin' around on Kleemann's homepage and "yeah", they have some nice stuff but as mentioned expensive for a Swede to buy. A nice counting gave me a sum of almost $15000-20000 and I can't pay that on tuning of a car, my wife would kill me upon that...
........**Thanks**.
I happen to live in Sweden and everything seems to be unecessary expensive here, regardless of where it's manufactured and I simply can't understand why...
Been surfin' around on Kleemann's homepage and "yeah", they have some nice stuff but as mentioned expensive for a Swede to buy. A nice counting gave me a sum of almost $15000-20000 and I can't pay that on tuning of a car, my wife would kill me upon that...
........**Thanks**.
