Mercedes-Benz cars will now be made in CHINA!
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06 COROLLA 140I
THE MAGICAL 333i WHICH KILLED EVRYTIN IN ITS CLASS:
If im not mistaken, nobles are also produced in south africa...incl new hummer, which is currently the most reliable reliable, compared 2 the US built..
Merc Spent 2 billion in Service related development for the new C class production...
If im not mistaken, nobles are also produced in south africa...incl new hummer, which is currently the most reliable reliable, compared 2 the US built..
Merc Spent 2 billion in Service related development for the new C class production...
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Otto, you better get your facts straight.
South African Built 3 series models are the best built 3 series of them all.
http://www.bmwplant.co.za/Content/fr...af0gau02~2.htm
Our E46 constantly out rated the German models..
But wait sunny boy, the H3 yes that sorry excuse for a SUV, South Africa is building them, and so far they are not falling into little pices unlike that US built car.
Golf Mk4 and Mk5, we do such a good job at building them for export markets that VW AG will probably award the Golf 6 contract for all RHD markets to SA again.
We are also building the Toyota Hilux for export markets. If Toyota Japan thinks we can built them to their standards we are doing fine.
But then for the killer of all killers.
We in south Africa have built more special cars that are so sought after world wide that collectors crawl over broken glass to get them.
this is what we did.
A different 745i was built for the South Africa market, because the turbocharger on the European-market 745i could not be installed in right-hand-drive versions of the car. This car was fitted with the 286 hp (213 kW) dual-camshaft 24-valve type-M88 /3 Motorsport engine (with a Bosch ML-Jetronic fuel injection system) as used in the M635i, and M5. 209 of these cars were built between 1984 and 1986, fitted with either an automatic transmission or a 5-speed 'sport' gearbox. Of the 209 cars built 192 were automatics and 17 were fitted with manual gearboxes.
BMW South Africa ran one of these 745i models in Class A of the South African Modified Saloon Car Championship, the only BMW-Sanctioned motor sport application in the history of BMW 7-series cars.
The M535i, featuring a 3.5L engine with special styling such as Motorsport front and rear spoilers, Recaro-brand sport seats, a close-ratio transmission and limited-slip differential, larger brakes, and other styling cues such as Motorsport striping down the sides of the car and on the front airdam, was available between 1979 and 1981 with 1410 cars produced. In South Africa, the 530 MLE was produced as a light-weight homologation special for racing. These Motorsport E12's are often considered the first production models that the BMW Motorsport division ever produced.
BMW South Africa's Motorsport division created the 333i in 1986 by fitting the 3.3 L M30 "big six" of the 733i to a 2-door E30. The resulting 333i was a major success in saloon car racing in that country and is now a collectors item. These cars, built with help from Alpina in Buschloe, Bavaraia ,Germany, featured some interesting compromises like forcing the buyer to choose between air conditioning (vital in South Africa) or power steering. They were only built in small numbers in 1986. Later when it became clear that South Africa would not be getting the M3, the 325iS was created. Initially this was merely a 325i 2-door fitted with a bodykit and a close-ratio gearbox (improving acceleration at the expense of top speed and economy) but more changes where made to keep the car competitive in South African saloon car racing. Nevertheless, these cars were always sold to the public. This culminated in the 325iS Evo II of late 1991. By now several body panels were made of aluminum, preventing the car from being washed by automated car washes, and the M20 engine grew to 2.7 L and now produced 155 kW (210 hp)and a 0-62 mph in a mere 7.5sec.
This is some of the BMW's we built as South African Laws and Penalties imposed on us by UN sanctions stoped us form getting certain cars we just made our own BMW's that were better than what BMW M sport could make.
From 1974 South African Alfetta's were manufactured at Alfa Romeo's own Brits plant. South Africa was one of two markets to have a turbocharged GTV6, with a Garrett turbocharger and a NACA intake. An estimated 750 were assembled before all production ceased in 1986. The South African market also introduced the 3.0 L GTV-6, predating the international debut of the factory's 3.0 L engine in 1987. Approximately 200 were built in South Africa for racing homologation. To this day, the GTV-6 remains the quintessential Alfa Romeo for South Africans.
and now are are building the C class for the US market..
Take your silly little argument and Bugger off.
South African Built 3 series models are the best built 3 series of them all.
http://www.bmwplant.co.za/Content/fr...af0gau02~2.htm
Our E46 constantly out rated the German models..
But wait sunny boy, the H3 yes that sorry excuse for a SUV, South Africa is building them, and so far they are not falling into little pices unlike that US built car.
Golf Mk4 and Mk5, we do such a good job at building them for export markets that VW AG will probably award the Golf 6 contract for all RHD markets to SA again.
We are also building the Toyota Hilux for export markets. If Toyota Japan thinks we can built them to their standards we are doing fine.
But then for the killer of all killers.
We in south Africa have built more special cars that are so sought after world wide that collectors crawl over broken glass to get them.
this is what we did.
A different 745i was built for the South Africa market, because the turbocharger on the European-market 745i could not be installed in right-hand-drive versions of the car. This car was fitted with the 286 hp (213 kW) dual-camshaft 24-valve type-M88 /3 Motorsport engine (with a Bosch ML-Jetronic fuel injection system) as used in the M635i, and M5. 209 of these cars were built between 1984 and 1986, fitted with either an automatic transmission or a 5-speed 'sport' gearbox. Of the 209 cars built 192 were automatics and 17 were fitted with manual gearboxes.
BMW South Africa ran one of these 745i models in Class A of the South African Modified Saloon Car Championship, the only BMW-Sanctioned motor sport application in the history of BMW 7-series cars.
The M535i, featuring a 3.5L engine with special styling such as Motorsport front and rear spoilers, Recaro-brand sport seats, a close-ratio transmission and limited-slip differential, larger brakes, and other styling cues such as Motorsport striping down the sides of the car and on the front airdam, was available between 1979 and 1981 with 1410 cars produced. In South Africa, the 530 MLE was produced as a light-weight homologation special for racing. These Motorsport E12's are often considered the first production models that the BMW Motorsport division ever produced.
BMW South Africa's Motorsport division created the 333i in 1986 by fitting the 3.3 L M30 "big six" of the 733i to a 2-door E30. The resulting 333i was a major success in saloon car racing in that country and is now a collectors item. These cars, built with help from Alpina in Buschloe, Bavaraia ,Germany, featured some interesting compromises like forcing the buyer to choose between air conditioning (vital in South Africa) or power steering. They were only built in small numbers in 1986. Later when it became clear that South Africa would not be getting the M3, the 325iS was created. Initially this was merely a 325i 2-door fitted with a bodykit and a close-ratio gearbox (improving acceleration at the expense of top speed and economy) but more changes where made to keep the car competitive in South African saloon car racing. Nevertheless, these cars were always sold to the public. This culminated in the 325iS Evo II of late 1991. By now several body panels were made of aluminum, preventing the car from being washed by automated car washes, and the M20 engine grew to 2.7 L and now produced 155 kW (210 hp)and a 0-62 mph in a mere 7.5sec.
This is some of the BMW's we built as South African Laws and Penalties imposed on us by UN sanctions stoped us form getting certain cars we just made our own BMW's that were better than what BMW M sport could make.
From 1974 South African Alfetta's were manufactured at Alfa Romeo's own Brits plant. South Africa was one of two markets to have a turbocharged GTV6, with a Garrett turbocharger and a NACA intake. An estimated 750 were assembled before all production ceased in 1986. The South African market also introduced the 3.0 L GTV-6, predating the international debut of the factory's 3.0 L engine in 1987. Approximately 200 were built in South Africa for racing homologation. To this day, the GTV-6 remains the quintessential Alfa Romeo for South Africans.
and now are are building the C class for the US market..
Take your silly little argument and Bugger off.
I owned a 2002 E46 sedan from the SA plant, was in for service over 45 times for the 2 years I owned it. It actually came from the factory with RHD spec bi-xenon headlights (UK)... I live in the US.
When the field rep heard about my issue his first question was, lemme guess is this an SA car? He agreed that SA quality has been worse than vehicles from Germany... this is from his personal experience with his dealers and his colleagues dealers. Incorrect headlights is def the fault of SA plant, shipped incorrectly from the supplier? Worker picked up the wrong lights? Missed several QC inspections.
My car has had numerous rattles, creaks, etc... all issues typically related with poor assembly quality. Also the might locally source a lot of parts in SA which i'm sure has lower quality than the suppliers in Germany.
With the time my car was in the shop, I got to drive a lot of German built 3 series. None of these car had any of the creaks and rattles that mine had! Hmmmm.
I will never purchase another vehicle made in SA.
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Haha! The BMW SA plant constantly puts out garbage.
I owned a 2002 E46 sedan from the SA plant, was in for service over 45 times for the 2 years I owned it. It actually came from the factory with RHD spec bi-xenon headlights (UK)... I live in the US.
When the field rep heard about my issue his first question was, lemme guess is this an SA car? He agreed that SA quality has been worse than vehicles from Germany... this is from his personal experience with his dealers and his colleagues dealers. Incorrect headlights is def the fault of SA plant, shipped incorrectly from the supplier? Worker picked up the wrong lights? Missed several QC inspections.
My car has had numerous rattles, creaks, etc... all issues typically related with poor assembly quality. Also the might locally source a lot of parts in SA which i'm sure has lower quality than the suppliers in Germany.
With the time my car was in the shop, I got to drive a lot of German built 3 series. None of these car had any of the creaks and rattles that mine had! Hmmmm.
I will never purchase another vehicle made in SA.
I owned a 2002 E46 sedan from the SA plant, was in for service over 45 times for the 2 years I owned it. It actually came from the factory with RHD spec bi-xenon headlights (UK)... I live in the US.
When the field rep heard about my issue his first question was, lemme guess is this an SA car? He agreed that SA quality has been worse than vehicles from Germany... this is from his personal experience with his dealers and his colleagues dealers. Incorrect headlights is def the fault of SA plant, shipped incorrectly from the supplier? Worker picked up the wrong lights? Missed several QC inspections.
My car has had numerous rattles, creaks, etc... all issues typically related with poor assembly quality. Also the might locally source a lot of parts in SA which i'm sure has lower quality than the suppliers in Germany.
With the time my car was in the shop, I got to drive a lot of German built 3 series. None of these car had any of the creaks and rattles that mine had! Hmmmm.
I will never purchase another vehicle made in SA.
Our superior German Built W211 fried it's entire Electronic system.
Cars breakdown. Dud's gets built, in the family we have run all kids of cars from 911's to Lexus to a deawoo.
They all break, no matter where the come from, but suggesting that a car from SA/China is worse than a car from Germany is idiotic at the very least
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2006 E46 M3, 2008 E92 M3
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E class cars are already made in India!
Think they will not be imported into the US? Think again. Top of the line Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 tires (now in a tie for top of the line depending on your needs) is made in Germany. However, made in Red China versions have appeared sporadically in the US. Made in Thailand versions generally have not.
The original post should not play favors to one side. Trolling and bias have no part in these boards. When using the name "China", we should not take sides. The Republic of China on Taiwan government has not dropped claims that it is the sole legitimate and democratic government of China. Red China (People's Republic of China) claims that it owns China and Taiwan. We should be neutral and specify that we mean "Red China", "Communist China", "Mainland China", or "People's Republic of China". We should not say just "China" because that is favoritism toward the Red Chinese government. This is possibly not intentional but the result of years of brainwashing by the Red Chinese government on American minds.
Think they will not be imported into the US? Think again. Top of the line Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 tires (now in a tie for top of the line depending on your needs) is made in Germany. However, made in Red China versions have appeared sporadically in the US. Made in Thailand versions generally have not.
The original post should not play favors to one side. Trolling and bias have no part in these boards. When using the name "China", we should not take sides. The Republic of China on Taiwan government has not dropped claims that it is the sole legitimate and democratic government of China. Red China (People's Republic of China) claims that it owns China and Taiwan. We should be neutral and specify that we mean "Red China", "Communist China", "Mainland China", or "People's Republic of China". We should not say just "China" because that is favoritism toward the Red Chinese government. This is possibly not intentional but the result of years of brainwashing by the Red Chinese government on American minds.
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Apple Macbook were made in China, will you still buy one?
Lenovo Thinkpads were made in China, will you still buy one?
The most famous iPhones were made in China, will you still buy one?
Your tones suggested that you insulted anything that came out from China. Grow up.