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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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H&R + Bilstein shocks with height adjustment. I think we have a solution to the OP.
All front aftermarket shocks for W211 should be height adjustable in my opinion, because of the different suspension height and spring rate from the factory depend on the engine (diesel vs gas, V6, V8, I6, I4), thus they should have ring. coil overs on other hand have threaded body for height adjustment, but once they are set I doubt some one will change the setup.
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Good info. Thank you. H&R + Bilstein shocks with height adjustment. I think we have a solution to the OP.
Thanks Dragona5h and Isstay! Appreciate it guys! If i dont go with the coilovers, ill go with this combo. Cheers!
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Thanks Dragona5h and Isstay! Appreciate it guys! If i dont go with the coilovers, ill go with this combo. Cheers!
Check my setup
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 12:50 PM
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And what is the final cost?
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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And what is the final cost?
Found his write up - https://mbworld.org/forums/5640519-post482.html

That's a really cool feature to have especially since it can be had aftermarket. Maybe if I come across a duffle bag with $5000 I'd splurg on this set up.
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And what is the final cost?
You got me there; yes it's significantly higher than replacing springs. I think a bit over $6500 including the iRC programmable module. I'm a bad example to follow.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:36 PM
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Found his write up - https://mbworld.org/forums/5640519-post482.html

That's a really cool feature to have especially since it can be had aftermarket. Maybe if I come across a duffle bag with $5000 I'd splurg on this set up.
Plus Kmacs $1000 + $1000 install KMacs (including realignments/adjustments) + $505 for the iRC module. But the car is a dream to drive now.
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Found the info I was looking for before - Bilstein teams up with Eibach for B12 Pro and Sportline kits:

http://www.bilsteinus.com/products/p...b12-sportline/
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Found the info I was looking for before - Bilstein teams up with Eibach for B12 Pro and Sportline kits:

http://www.bilsteinus.com/products/p...b12-sportline/

Excellent, with up to 2" drop and a spring / shock combo that was designed to work with one another. I think I may have found my own future set up.
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Plus Kmacs $1000 + $1000 install KMacs (including realignments/adjustments) + $505 for the iRC module. But the car is a dream to drive now.
That's a tough act to follow on a poor mans budget, but I won't doubt that it's a dream to drive.
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Excellent, with up to 2" drop and a spring / shock combo that was designed to work with one another. I think I may have found my own future set up.
I like it too. But i think ill just go with the coilovers if i decide to change it now. So i can adjust the height anytime i want. Assuming that this combo is not adjustable. I like the idea though!
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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I like it too. But i think ill just go with the coilovers if i decide to change it now. So i can adjust the height anytime i want. Assuming that this combo is not adjustable. I like the idea though!

Yeah I did like having coilovers in my last vehicle for the option to change ride height any given time, but it was more than 2x's the cost of the standard spring/shock combo offered. Keep us updated with any you consider going with, you may change my mind on dishing out more $$$.
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I like it too. But i think ill just go with the coilovers if i decide to change it now. So i can adjust the height anytime i want. Assuming that this combo is not adjustable. I like the idea though!
Any changes in height will have to be followed by alignment (I bet you won't be able to put it back in same position (talking about coilovers). B12 kit is adjustable in height through the rings upfront and shims on the back, but this can't be done as easy as w/coilovers. If you need adjustability only until you set them up you will have it with B12 also.
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Originally Posted by Drag0na5h
Yeah I did like having coilovers in my last vehicle for the option to change ride height any given time, but it was more than 2x's the cost of the standard spring/shock combo offered. Keep us updated with any you consider going with, you may change my mind on dishing out more $$$.
Actually, the H&R spring that I have right now cost me AU$850 installed, labor was a whopping AU$450! a few weeks after, i saw somebody here selling DGR Coilovers for AU$1050 fitted. A couple of hundred dollars more and we wouldnt be having this conversation right now.
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Any changes in height will have to be followed by alignment (I bet you won't be able to put it back in same position (talking about coilovers). B12 kit is adjustable in height through the rings upfront and shims on the back, but this can't be done as easy as w/coilovers. If you need adjustability only until you set them up you will have it with B12 also.
I didnt even think about the alignment issue with the coilovers! Avery good point!

Anyway, I started the post thinking I can easily cut the spring without any BIG issue or something. i was thinking since Im going to replace the front and rear rotors and pads in a couple of weeks. I was hoping I could cut the springs while im at it. but, it looks like a no go for now. i may just leave it as it is until I go for the coilovers or the B12 combo as you suggested.
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have you guys heard about DGR Coilovers? Ive read from reviews that theyre ok as long as you dont take it to the tracks. I dont even drive the car hard so...
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 03:52 AM
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have you guys heard about DGR Coilovers? Ive read from reviews that theyre ok as long as you dont take it to the tracks. I dont even drive the car hard so...
I haven't heard of them, but nothing some research couldn't generate a justified opinion on later. I've been exposed to the Japanese aftermarket since I started modding to when I stopped a few years back. So my guess is they are an up and coming brand.
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In my opinion if you are going to cut your springs then you are primarily focused on pure looks rather than a function/performance focus. Slamming a car in some peoples eyes looks "cool" but I wouldnt do it. Get thinner spring pads or shorter springs. Honda swag on the mercedes idk. Sometimes the springs just need a bit more drive to settle to their correct height.
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I haven't heard of them, but nothing some research couldn't generate a justified opinion on later. I've been exposed to the Japanese aftermarket since I started modding to when I stopped a few years back. So my guess is they are an up and coming brand.
Ive sen a few good reviews about it. I think its made in Taiwan. for now, Ill worry about rotors and ill deal with the lowering later. like i mentioned to Isstay, I was only hoping to cut the the springs if i can while Im changing the rotors. But for now, looks like a no go.
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In my opinion if you are going to cut your springs then you are primarily focused on pure looks rather than a function/performance focus. Slamming a car in some peoples eyes looks "cool" but I wouldnt do it. Get thinner spring pads or shorter springs. Honda swag on the mercedes idk. Sometimes the springs just need a bit more drive to settle to their correct height.

w211's dont have different front spring pads for some reason. I already have H&R lowering springs and its been on my car for 7mos now.
but yeah, cutting is a no go for now.
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